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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 06/07/2004 : 15:15:41
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Today it all came to a head. I have decided that I just can't continue in my current employment. I really want to work in the music industry, 'cos it interests me greatly. I'm not talking about being a musical artist 'cos that's just pipe dreams with my guitar playing. Ideally, getting into A&R would be great (or something along those lines) but I realise that with no experience in the industry and at my age (27) it is going to be very difficult to achieve.
Does anyone have any useful tips, or general information on this subject? I would be grateful for your thoughts.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 06/07/2004 : 15:22:17
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My advice: give it up, it'll never happen. I'm a very cheerful person.
I would say, prepare to start right at the bottom, you won't just get a job in A&R just like that. Call round some smaller labels, see if they do placement schemes or something (like Cooking Vinyl), that may be a start.
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TheCroutonFuton
- Mr. Setlists -
USA
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Posted - 06/07/2004 : 15:25:06
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Cheesey's right...Don't do it. It's an evil industry to be involved in...
:EDIT: And oh my fucking God...No caps or exclamation points!
"Freedom is a state of mind and the condition and position of your ass. Free your mind and your ass will follow." - Funkadelic |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 06/07/2004 : 15:28:37
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Good point Cruty... actually two good points. It really ain't as glamorous as its cracked up to be, from my limited experience.
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SpudBoy
= Cult of Ray =
Equatorial Guinea
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Posted - 06/07/2004 : 20:27:12
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When I was in it, I really dug it. There are a lot of sleazy nose-lip-bags like everywhere else, but the ratio is better. I got out because I was dangerously close to starvation and it was nightlife or day job. You meet a lot of really cool people, learn a ton of stuff, and if you do a lot of live work you will probably get in fights with club owners who decide not to pay (if you're in booking, band management, or performing), or musicians/booking/mgmt that piss off half the crowd, break soundcheck time, or or break stuff. If you want to start part time I would recommend calling mid level local studios and seeing if they need an assistant that will work cheap to free. Run some cable, set up mics, amps, etc., make coffee and meet a ton of people in the business. That will lead you to roadie work, live sound, and who knows what else. Yeah the corporate labels can suck the soul out of anyone but there are still some spaces in between that make it worthwhile. Big caveat on the studio thing: unless you associate with a studio known for a particular kind of music, be prepared to sit through countless repititions of music you CANNOT STAND while the producer insists on "just one more" take. Even music you like can get old that way but the control room atmosphere typically alleviates the monotony. Promotions work can be fun but for some reason I found it draws the largest population of wankers in that business. Best of luck - I hope to one day rejoin the ranks myself. Come on lotto!
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frank_black_francis
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
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Posted - 06/07/2004 : 20:55:39
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| ....If there is one thing I know for sure about life, its that you can do whatever the hell you wanna do. Give it a try and see if you like it. Wow thats vaguery at its best! Thanks Grandma. But the message rings true. |
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The Champ
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
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Posted - 06/07/2004 : 21:14:57
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| Yeah fuck giver, dont listen to people saying ya can't do it give up, cause you will at least have some fun trying to get somewhere, and thats the point i think |
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Posted - 06/08/2004 : 10:42:18
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And you never know until you give it a go!!! I'm buying my guitar next month and i'm re-learning it because I want to.. do I buy a green one?
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2004 : 10:54:59
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Yeah aqua green Tre.
Thanks guys. I am not in a very happy place at the moment. Life sucks!
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Posted - 06/08/2004 : 10:59:04
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Hate to say but thats life! It's all uppity downy and shit, but I'll keep my lows just so I can appreciate my Highs when they come
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2004 : 11:05:31
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I can handle the lows, it's the boring, mindnumbing tedium inbetween the highs and lows that is really starting to depress me.
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Posted - 06/08/2004 : 11:12:05
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Fair point well presented and not one I can argue with really. I find myself almost almost in my subconscience creating disasters. I'm supposed to be going off to do a postgraduate course in september and have cleverly landed myself in too much debt to clear and a job until then that I hate in a city I detest where I don't know anyone anymore. Bring on the highs!
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Posted - 06/08/2004 : 11:23:03
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changing my name to tre-who-kills-threads
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *
France
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Posted - 06/08/2004 : 11:49:06
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Two of my best friends have jobs I would love to have : one of them works at a record label, and the other has to read American books and decide which one should be translated...
However, I must say that they don't like their jobs at all...
And though I can hide my cold gaze, and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable... I simply am not there. |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2004 : 12:50:20
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To be honest, whilst I was performing my shit job today I realised that it wasn't just my job that was making me unhappy at all, it's my loneliness. I need someone to get through this crazy world with.
Pah, the grass is always greener!
Pixies!?!? Pixies!?!? Don't talk to me about the Pixies!!!.........OK, talk to me about the Pixies!!! |
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *
France
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Posted - 06/08/2004 : 13:09:02
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Before, when guys were feeling depressed, they would join the army or the navy.
Ah, those were the days!
ps : the Queen's old Army makes a man of you!
And though I can hide my cold gaze, and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable... I simply am not there. |
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
4800 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2004 : 13:18:26
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Do something daring HPM! Don't be sad and lonely. There is still a chance to join the Tiger Lillies, and learn applied quantum physics in your free time and then experiment with pylons every night at 3 AM!
http://tigerlillies.com/2003/index.php
If the only tool you have is an elbow macaroni,
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2004 : 13:24:20
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Erm I didn't mean lonely as in no friends. I have plenty of those, the best ones too.
Pixies!?!? Pixies!?!? Don't talk to me about the Pixies!!!.........OK, talk to me about the Pixies!!! |
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
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Posted - 06/08/2004 : 13:26:08
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Yeah, I realized that, was just trying to cheer you up gloomy gus -nevermind. 
If the only tool you have is an elbow macaroni,
all your problems look like Schroedinger's cat. |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2004 : 13:31:12
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Oh I know you were and I appreciate it. I am not actually down RIGHT now though, I feel OK at the mo 'cos I just got out of the shower. It's just in general, my life needs more.
Pixies!?!? Pixies!?!? Don't talk to me about the Pixies!!!.........OK, talk to me about the Pixies!!! |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2004 : 13:31:42
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Hmmm, maybe I should keep getting in and out of showers!
Pixies!?!? Pixies!?!? Don't talk to me about the Pixies!!!.........OK, talk to me about the Pixies!!! |
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *
France
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Posted - 06/08/2004 : 13:43:53
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Cold showers.
And though I can hide my cold gaze, and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable... I simply am not there. |
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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1342 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2004 : 13:53:31
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Hey cool. I'm 27 too. That's my general information on this subject.
However, go for the musician part of it. You'll be a rock star in no time. If the White Stripes can make it big...so can you.
1. I am a fsh with no i's.
2. You must be wearing Zubaz, 'cause you're daring to be different.
3. I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb. |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2004 : 14:09:31
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I can't play guitar as well as Jack though. I just think that maybe I missed the boat on that one.
Pixies!?!? Pixies!?!? Don't talk to me about the Pixies!!!.........OK, talk to me about the Pixies!!! |
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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 06/08/2004 : 14:29:39
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Actually, I was saying you're probably a better musician than any of the White Stripes are...so if they can make it, most assuredly you can too. All in all it was a slam against the White Stripes, whom I don't like.
1. I am a fsh with no i's.
2. You must be wearing Zubaz, 'cause you're daring to be different.
3. I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb. |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2004 : 14:37:39
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Let me assure you, Jack is a very good guitarist. I have seen him live a few times and he is very good. IMO anyway. Meg is an average drummer, to say the least.
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Posted - 06/08/2004 : 15:01:52
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I don't think from what I can gather meg's appeal lies in her drumming skills... saw them in liverpool and the lads I was with were more interested in her "cracking pair"
And given that she can't sing for shit either I don't think they mean her lungs..
ahem
The world is not my home I'm just passing through |
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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/08/2004 : 15:07:19
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They looked like standard drumsticks to me.
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Posted - 06/08/2004 : 15:11:20
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Ah, you're actually wrong there, they are drumsticks of power that make meg jiggle in ways that I do not understand.. well did not notice until it was pointed out to me by my drooling compadres
men. tch!
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2004 : 15:15:18
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You think the girls are admiring his guiatr skills? They are looking at his crotch. He is renowned for his tight trousers and the snake that lurks within.
Pixies!?!? Pixies!?!? Don't talk to me about the Pixies!!!.........OK, talk to me about the Pixies!!! |
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Posted - 06/08/2004 : 15:17:21
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it's funny because it's true. But if he will wave that thing around!!! It's not my fault if the eye is drawn. They are a dirty band... dirty dirty sluts the pair of them
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2004 : 15:23:42
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Dirty as you like!
Pixies!?!? Pixies!?!? Don't talk to me about the Pixies!!!.........OK, talk to me about the Pixies!!! |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 06/08/2004 : 15:32:30
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Dead Leaves and the Dirty Sluts.
There was no excuse for that. Sorry.
"It's a far cry from small boys in the park, jumpers for goalposts. Isn't it? Mmmmm. Marvellous." |
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Posted - 06/08/2004 : 16:01:01
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Oh god I'm doing it! look! I'm killing threads left right and centre! I'm on one crazy thread killing spree now! lock up your threads, tre is in the building!
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 06/09/2004 : 17:02:56
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Big caveat on the studio thing: unless you associate with a studio known for a particular kind of music, be prepared to sit through countless repititions of music you CANNOT STAND while the producer insists on "just one more" take.
Not if you record the Catholics! (Not that I'm implying the Catholics are music that anyone here cannot stand, just that they don't do multiple recordings of songs. Or am I wrong about that?)
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
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Posted - 06/09/2004 : 17:09:25
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| erm. seeing as they record live, i'm sure there are times when they have to do retakes more than most bands! |
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A Career In Music
