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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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 Posted - 06/05/2004 : 16:01:32
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Now, I know many of you will not have the slightest interest in this, being unaware of the joys of football, but for those who are in the know: here's where you can vent your joy, your frustration, your wonderment, and your general overly biased opinions on the beautiful game.
So, we have one week to go until the festival of happiness that is Euro 2004.
Clearly, we have favourites: France firstly (probably having the top two players in the world right now); Italy are looking good; You can never rule out Germany or Spain; and of course England, who looked good tonight beating Iceland 6-1.
Point of note: Wayne Bridge, scoring left-back, is from my hometown. Which makes him cool.
Apart from England, I'm backing Latvia at 500-1. They do have a secret weapon in the ace Marian Parhars.
So: England fans, answer me these. 4-4-2 or Diamond? Why the continued presence of Heskey and Owen Hargreaves? Is Rooney the Next Big Thing? Whats our chances?
Neutrals: who do you fancy? Will France sweep all before them? Anyone else even have a chance?
Discuss.
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ShakeyShake
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1058 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2004 : 16:06:50
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In short:
France to win,Heskeys a donkey,Rooney will never be the next gazza and we'll not do all too bad,last 4 maybe
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2004 : 16:13:11
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Hmm, I agree with most of that Shakey, but I reckon Roonaldo's a bit special.
I think the England side almost picks itself now, for the most part:
James
G.Neville Campbell Terry Cole
Beckham Lampard Gerrard Scholes
Owen Rooney
Plus, you have some useful subs in Cole, Bridge, and some others.
However, looking at the expected French line-up... ouch. You've got:
Thuram, Desailly, Pires, Zidane, Henry, Trezeguet, Makelele and a whole bunhc of others. Now that, my friends, is a world class team.
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1973 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2004 : 16:26:33
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Here in France, we're only afraid of one thing: Portugal!
I keep feeling like people are just looking at screens and web sites all the time, but do they ever do anything? Or go out and say anything to anyone? I'm not so sure anymore. |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 06/05/2004 : 16:30:12
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Portugal? Really? So you're a little nervous of the Algarve or something, I wouldn't worry to much about the team...
 "It's a far cry from small boys in the park, jumpers for goalposts. Isn't it? Mmmmm. Marvellous." |
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1973 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2004 : 16:33:36
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Figo?
I keep feeling like people are just looking at screens and web sites all the time, but do they ever do anything? Or go out and say anything to anyone? I'm not so sure anymore. |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2004 : 16:36:35
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Ah, yeah, but Desailly and Thuram will deal with him. I'd be more scared of Raul myself.
"It's a far cry from small boys in the park, jumpers for goalposts. Isn't it? Mmmmm. Marvellous." |
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =
Italy
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Posted - 06/06/2004 : 10:06:19
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I see that noone considers Greece an option. Too bad because we are going to win this cup (though i wouldn't bet too much on it)
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1973 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2004 : 11:27:45
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Yeah mca, keep your money for beer!
And though I can hide my cold gaze, and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable... I simply am not there. |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2004 : 15:36:37
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Portugal??? No chance. Even with the great Ronaldo.
Desailly didn't play tonight Simon, Silvestre did and he was very good. Desailly is too old now.
To be honest with you, except for the odd gorgeous flowing move, France looked a bit average tonight. Just shows you that even the best are poor sometimes, and obviously that is the time to beat them. England must hope they are average on Sunday, and that they can take advantage of any such drop in form.
The team pretty much picks itself for England, I wouldn't change anything. I am still not entirely convinced about Cole, I think maybe Bridge is better. Cole gets caught out defensively sometimes, although Bridge too can be guilty of this sometimes.
I would have liked Defoe to have made the squad, at the expence of Heskey perhaps or a midfielder.
I think we will make the semis. Beyond that, who knows.
Still backing France to win it though, beating Italy in the final.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2004 : 15:41:10
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I would have Francis Benali at the expense of Emile Heskey.
I agree that its a toss-up between Bridge and Cole though, and I would've been happy to see Defoe in there, kid's gotta lotta talent.
I'm well chuffed for Frank Lampard though, he's had a brilliant season and I hope he really shines for England. John Terry too, he's been great for Chelski.
I'm still not entirely convinced by David James, but I think he'll do.
"It's a far cry from small boys in the park, jumpers for goalposts. Isn't it? Mmmmm. Marvellous." |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2004 : 16:13:23
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Yeah Kirkland should have made himself number 1 by now, but he is the most injury-prone keeper ever!!!
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Posted - 06/07/2004 : 01:50:28
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Holland is going to lose bad
but I think england isn't really good either
and germany isn't on my list too
I guess France and Portugal have the best cards
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <
New Zealand
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Posted - 06/07/2004 : 01:56:22
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England will just choke once the pressure gets to them.
they will then blame it all on someone, thus avoiding the truth that they simply aren't good enough to win it.
but it shall be an interesting few weeks.
see in the paper the other day that husbands will spend £50million bribing their wives to allowing them to watch the matches.
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klikger
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 06/07/2004 : 02:02:27
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| Go Germany! K, I don't know what I'm talking about. (see my location) But I'm German. Yeeeeeeeah! Go Juventus. Hehe. |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 06/07/2004 : 02:46:12
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HPM: in case you didn't remember, FC Porto won against Monaco in the Champions League, that's why we fear the portuguese right now.
I didn't watch yesterday's game but I think the result is OK. Why would they bother winning 5-0 or something for a friendly game? One goal at the last minute is perfect IMO. And Zidane did it, which is even better.
Denis
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *
France
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Posted - 06/07/2004 : 03:35:11
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Ah, Zizou....What a man!
And though I can hide my cold gaze, and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable... I simply am not there. |
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =
Italy
2139 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2004 : 03:58:14
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Originally posted by Adnan_le_Terrible
Yeah mca, keep your money for beer!
And though I can hide my cold gaze, and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable... I simply am not there.
yep. i 'm gonna need a lot of beers Saturday. first game Portugal-Greece. it's tough being a Greek in Italy during international football competitions. thank god we are not in the same group or there would be civil war at home.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2004 : 11:09:07
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Originally posted by benji
see in the paper the other day that husbands will spend £50million bribing their wives to allowing them to watch the matches.
You Know You Want To!
Yeah I couldn't believe that. What weak men! What gold-digging women!
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2004 : 11:09:50
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Hmmmm, did I just sum up both sexes there?
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2004 : 11:12:03
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Originally posted by vilainde
HPM: in case you didn't remember, FC Porto won against Monaco in the Champions League, that's why we fear the portuguese right now.
I didn't watch yesterday's game but I think the result is OK. Why would they bother winning 5-0 or something for a friendly game? One goal at the last minute is perfect IMO. And Zidane did it, which is even better.
Denis
That means nothing in Euro 04. This is national football not club football and Portugal have won nothing. Let us not forget that they failed miserably at the last World Cup and have not played a competitive match since. You should fear nobody, you're France, your the best! Fear only yourselves!
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bedrock_barney
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
871 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2004 : 12:53:13
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I send this topic my heartiest indifference.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2004 : 15:00:11
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quote:
Originally posted by bedrock_barney
I send this topic my heartiest indifference.
"I've rejoined the Cult of Ming / Star of favourite childhood movie of 1980"
Kiss my... oh, never mind. I know your more of a lawn bowls man.
"It's a far cry from small boys in the park, jumpers for goalposts. Isn't it? Mmmmm. Marvellous." |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2004 : 15:03:09
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Or rounders.
Pixies!?!? Pixies!?!? Don't talk to me about the Pixies!!!.........OK, talk to me about the Pixies!!! |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2004 : 15:13:16
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Nowt wrong with a good game of rounders, it's what the off-season was designed for.
"It's a far cry from small boys in the park, jumpers for goalposts. Isn't it? Mmmmm. Marvellous." |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2004 : 15:17:18
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NO, that's football transfer speculation.
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ispini tapaidh
- FB Fan -
Ireland
122 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2004 : 08:17:40
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I've a sneaky feeling for Italy, winning it by winning all of their matches one-nil. Think if I was betting I'd go for France though. Zizou is the best.
England have a great team on paper (although in my opinion they have the wrong captain - it should be Steven Gerrard), but just never seem to click. Bit like the Netherlands. And I fear for Rooney - if he gets wound up enough to take a swing at a Japanese guy in a friendly I would worry that he'll be targeted by defenders and get himself sent off.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2004 : 01:38:05
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Kay, so it was sweepstake time at work today. Who did I draw? Russia. Typical.
I got Czech Republic as well, which ain't so bad, but I was slightly suspicious when the organiser picked Italy and England. Hmmmm...
Anybody overly excited yet? Portugal-Greece kicks off tonight, but the first real showpiece match (sorry MCA) is tommorow - England vs France. Its gonna be ace, even if we're blatantly going to lose.
"It's a far cry from small boys in the park, jumpers for goalposts. Isn't it? Mmmmm. Marvellous." |
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Nono le petit lutin
- FB Fan -
France
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Posted - 06/12/2004 : 04:54:30
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So you'r everywhere, Cheeseman !!!
I understand tne number of your posts !!!
I plan to watch evey game during this euro ! And noone can keep me from doing it.
That's the only kind of period (world cups, olympic games, figure skating are great too) when we (I mean singles) don't envy you !!! :)
So Portugal-Greece gonna be nice tonight.
I want Greece to win cos I'm invited to watch this game at friends (wth BBQ ! fiesta !!!) and they fancy Portugal and the woman dislike France, so ...
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They tried to give me advice / Down at the record shop / I said sit down boys / This may come as a shock / What's all I listen to / It's all freedom rock
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Nono le petit lutin
- FB Fan -
France
167 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2004 : 04:57:06
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of course, in my precedent post, I mean this is a time singles don't envy "married" guys
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They tried to give me advice / Down at the record shop / I said sit down boys / This may come as a shock / What's all I listen to / It's all freedom rock
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2004 : 05:23:08
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I'm backing Russia this evening for obvious reasons... (see two posts up). Spain never quite cut it, so I think they have a chance. Portugal I think will win, they've got both quality and Big Phil Scolari.
Man, I'm looking forward to tomorrow night. I think England have a really good chance, even though they're definitely the underdogs. If we can sort a decent central defender to replace Ferdinand/Woodgate/Terry, I think we'll be on our way.
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Nono le petit lutin
- FB Fan -
France
167 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2004 : 05:37:50
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Spain have better players but they rarely make it in international tournaments.
I don't know if there are some spanish FB netters around here, but traditionally spanish people prefer supporting their clubs than the national team.
So Russians have a chance, sure.
Portugal is favourite. Drawing or losing would be a very bad result in this group and not the best way for the organizer to begin, so I think they are under a big pressure.
England-France ...
Well, as I often say (most of the time in order to get on my friends nerves ...), everything can happen during a football game : 11 vs 11 on the pitch, football is not mathematics and can't be rationalized, it's a chance ! (remember Senegal ...).
But we are favourite and it wouldn't be a good idea to lose.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2004 : 05:40:58
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Its a game of two halves, Trevor.
It wouldn't be a good idea for anyone to lose, technically speaking.
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bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/12/2004 : 06:47:34
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quote:
Originally posted by benji
England will just choke once the pressure gets to them.
they will then blame it all on someone, thus avoiding the truth that they simply aren't good enough to win it.
but it shall be an interesting few weeks.
see in the paper the other day that husbands will spend £50million bribing their wives to allowing them to watch the matches.
You Know You Want To!
haha! that's a fantastic stat! my gf gets off lightly as i'm not really into football... she just has to put up with an F1 race every other week... which isn't too bad, just a couple of hours on a sunday... see, i'm the perfect husband! 
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
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Posted - 06/12/2004 : 07:00:22
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Originally posted by bedrock_barney
I send this topic my heartiest indifference.
"I've rejoined the Cult of Ming / Star of favourite childhood movie of 1980"
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2004 : 11:33:29
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Originally posted by Adnan_le_Terrible
Here in France, we're only afraid of one thing: Portugal!
I keep feeling like people are just looking at screens and web sites all the time, but do they ever do anything? Or go out and say anything to anyone? I'm not so sure anymore.
Still afraid?
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