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The Champ
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
736 Posts

Posted - 05/30/2004 :  14:05:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I myself am voting cause i think its very important and im going hard on the PC because i want Tax cuts for everyone and a government that isnt corrupt and lazy.

mattb
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
474 Posts

Posted - 05/30/2004 :  14:08:30  Show Profile  Visit mattb's Homepage  Click to see mattb's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I'm voting for sure. I encourage everyone to do the same as well no matter who you're voting for. I'm voting for the Green Party.

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Crispy Water
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
819 Posts

Posted - 05/30/2004 :  14:56:38  Show Profile  Visit Crispy Water's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm definitely voting, but I haven't decided who yet. Nobody's impressed me yet. The lady who holds the seat where I live is pretty high up in the current government, but nobody seems to like her and she's won by very small margins the last couple times out. This election is going to be strange everywhere, I do believe. Something about the political climate here worries me lately. Usually it just strikes me as harmless, but it's been different recently.

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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 05/30/2004 :  16:42:12  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I was definitely going Liberal again with Paul Martin early on, but now I've moved into the undecided realm...

They all seem to have major holes in their platforms not to mention in their leaders, and it's a tough decision this time out. I'll tell you that I'm pretty sick of being ignored by Ottawa out west.


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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
8201 Posts

Posted - 05/30/2004 :  16:46:20  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
In the UK, most people will vote one way or another, and simply stay that way for the rest of their lives. It sounds like you chaps in Canadia are more likely to vote based on issues, which is excellent stuff. I wish we had a bit more of that.


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mattb
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
474 Posts

Posted - 05/31/2004 :  06:34:42  Show Profile  Visit mattb's Homepage  Click to see mattb's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cheeseman1000

In the UK, most people will vote one way or another, and simply stay that way for the rest of their lives. It sounds like you chaps in Canadia are more likely to vote based on issues, which is excellent stuff. I wish we had a bit more of that.


"Everywhere I go I want to travel by Maglev"



I find the older generation in Canada is still like that (ie 50+)

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mattb
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
474 Posts

Posted - 05/31/2004 :  06:58:58  Show Profile  Visit mattb's Homepage  Click to see mattb's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
For those of you who are undecided. Go to the party websites and see what each party is about. Don't only consider the 3 major parties, look at everyone and then make up your mind. I'm biased because I'm supporting them but take a good look at the Green Party platform. They're not what you think they are and have very sound ideas how to improve the country and most importantly the quality of life for Canadians. Their support has also been growing in the past few years and in a few more will have the level of support they have in Europe. In this election the have a candidate in every riding in Canada making them elgible for national debates, this will hopefully introduce more people to them. But I'm regressing, seriously take a look at everyone:

BLOC QUEBECOIS http://www.blocquebecois.org

CANADIAN ACTION PARTY http://www.canadianactionparty.ca

CHRISTIAN HERITAGE PARTY http://www.chp.ca

COMMUNIST PARTY OF CANADA http://www.communist-party.ca

CONSERVATIVE PARTY http://www.conservative.ca

GREEN PARTY http://greenparty.ca

LIBERAL PARTY http://www.liberal.ca

MARIJUANA PARTY http://www.marijuanaparty.com

MARXIST-LENINIST PARTY http://www.cpcml.ca

NEW DEMOCRATIC PARTY http://www.ndp.ca

PROGRESSIVE CANADIAN PARTY http://www.pcparty.org

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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos

Canada
4496 Posts

Posted - 05/31/2004 :  10:59:08  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Arrgh..we definitely don't need another term with the Liberals in power..

I'd like to vote for the Greens, but until we get proportional representation, it's very close to being a wasted vote...

Their presence in Victoria is currently pretty strong, so there's a decent chance here..

Vote anything but Liberal i say..or PC or whatever they're calling themselves. Who are the Alliance party hiding with now..? Cursed Nazi's..


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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <

Canada
4307 Posts

Posted - 05/31/2004 :  11:10:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, and whatever happened to the Reform Party? Did they become the Alliance. Stockwell Day was a banana!

These guys should go federal!

http://www.worklessparty.org/

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mattb
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
474 Posts

Posted - 05/31/2004 :  12:13:25  Show Profile  Visit mattb's Homepage  Click to see mattb's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by shineoftheever

Yeah, and whatever happened to the Reform Party? Did they become the Alliance. Stockwell Day was a banana!

These guys should go federal!

http://www.worklessparty.org/

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I'd vote for them. Seriously, does anyone else notice how labour is moving back to the way it was 100+ years ago? In Ontario we had a 60 hour work allowed by the Conservatives. You could get fired if you refused to work 60 hours in a week. It was changed slightly by the Liberals but not back to the way it was. Every company I've worked for doesn't give a shit about their employees. The company I'm at now is gettign ridiculous. Last summer I was playing football and caught a pass wrong and tore some of the tendons in my hand. I didn't realize I did that at the time and went to work the next day even though my hand hurt like hell. It kept getting worse and by the end of the day my hand was throbbing in pain and swelled up to like 3 times it's size. I had something due the next day and I told my boss I have to go because it's killing me. He reponded by saying why don't you just use your other hand instead? My jaw almost dropped to the ground. I'm telling the asshole I'm in severe pain and he's basically saying just walk it off. I went to the doctor the next day and he told me not to go to work for 5 days to let it heal and that I shouldn't use it at all. He gave me Tylenol 4's for fuck's sake. When I called one of my other bosses to tell him he said he started arguing with me that he didn't understand how my hand could be hurt that much by a football and demanded I go back to the Doctor and get a note. Now, I don't take sick days often. I'm not one of those people who call in sick every second Friday. In fact the last time before the incident with my hand was like 7 months before. So why should assholes like this question me and doubt me when I'm saying I'm not well enough to work. I have a million other stories from previous jobs too and from friends/co-workers, I should write a book.

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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 05/31/2004 :  12:43:25  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
For those curious about the right wing side of things:

Progressive Conservative -> Beleagured PC -> Progressive Canadian party
Reform -> Canadian Alliance -> Progressive Canadian

We do need a change in this country, but change to what. I haven't looked at the green party seriously because they seem like a one-issue party to me (though I do intend to check out their platform), and nobody takes any of the other 'christian/communist/marijuana/guiness/etc' parties seriously. As far as I'm concerned, it's still about the big three: liberal, PC, NDP. The rest is just lobbyists.

And here in Saskatchewan, I've had my fill of NDP too, so I suppose I'm torn between liberal and PC. :)

Matt, those sound like bosses from hell. Those would all be grounds for me leaving current employment, but I'm stubborn that way. But I still don't like unions and what they inevitably become...


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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 05/31/2004 :  12:45:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by shineoftheever

Yeah, and whatever happened to the Reform Party? Did they become the Alliance. Stockwell Day was a banana!

These guys should go federal!

http://www.worklessparty.org/

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I ran into Stockwell Day in Peachland.
They really seem to love him out there...
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <

Canada
4307 Posts

Posted - 05/31/2004 :  13:33:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sheeesh! They must be smokin' banana peels or somethin', I voted reform (Preston Manning) until Day took party lead.

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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 05/31/2004 :  13:36:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Actually,
my in-laws invited him to granny's 80th birthday party, no joke.
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <

Canada
4307 Posts

Posted - 05/31/2004 :  13:42:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'll take that as "point proven" - Only clowns do birthday parties! ;)

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The Champ
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
736 Posts

Posted - 05/31/2004 :  18:24:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey matt if your still having crazy work weeks then maybe u should check out the govn of ontario web site cause the labour laws are their..max work week, etc..i think now its like 48 hours a week then u get time and a half or something, i dunno exactly i gotta look at it aswell.
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <

Canada
4307 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2004 :  15:44:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just saw that Stephen Harper (conservative) will be donating $1 Billion to the armed forces, now I can cross them off my list!

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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
8201 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2004 :  15:57:15  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You need the Raving Loony Party. They're pretty much the fourth party here...
RIP Screaming Lord Sutch



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The Champ
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
736 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2004 :  19:36:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Whats wrong with giving our armed forces the money they deserve so that they can go fight our battles equipped properly Shine? Im not impressed with old Sea king hele's falling from the sky on a daily basis. For me i can't see any reason why anyone would ever vote liberal in this election with all the crap they've put us through.
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos

Canada
4496 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2004 :  23:12:37  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Dismantle the armed fools i say.

=)


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This_Guy
- FB Fan -

Canada
146 Posts

Posted - 06/02/2004 :  00:20:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i'll have to side with the ndp this go.
they really got my attention with their platform on taxation of the rich and generating revenue from uncollected income tax. the environment and health reform also being sellers for me.

trusting anyone is hard because they all sound the same when printing presses are pumping out ballots, but a pro military conservative government and a corrupt liberal one dont sit well on my nachos.
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greg
- FB Fan -

Canada
159 Posts

Posted - 06/02/2004 :  06:44:06  Show Profile  Click to see greg's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
[quote]Originally posted by Dave Noisy

Dismantle the armed fools i say.

=) Just wondering,Mr. Noisy, who are you calling a fool?
See profile....
Thank you all.
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <

Canada
4307 Posts

Posted - 06/02/2004 :  10:13:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Champ

Whats wrong with giving our armed forces the money they deserve so that they can go fight our battles equipped properly Shine? Im not impressed with old Sea king hele's falling from the sky on a daily basis. For me i can't see any reason why anyone would ever vote liberal in this election with all the crap they've put us through.



Absolutely nothing wrong with giving the military money, but a billion dollars? I thought we sold our seaking's anyways, that should be enough.

I'm not voting Liberal or Conservative.



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The Champ
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
736 Posts

Posted - 06/02/2004 :  12:47:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Its a billion dollars most likely because of how much the Liberals cut from the defence budget i believe and the effects that those cuts have had over the years. One billion is the rough number some experts have said what would be required to get our military back up to snuff, or something like that.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 06/02/2004 :  15:34:52  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm OK with refurbishing the military as far as better/safer equipment go (because it seems that we will never live in an age without military, though I'd love to be the first country to disarm completely and wilfully), but I suppose the concern is that if they're spending that kind of money on military, what does that say about their position on the war and the general might = right philosophy so dominant in world culture? It makes me skeptical, that's for sure.


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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos

Canada
4496 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2004 :  13:12:58  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Arrgh..stay away from my electronics Greg - i have enough problems as it is. =P

Aye Dean.. By getting 'more guns' we really only force others to get 'more guns' as well. Pretty stupid if you ask me.


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The Champ
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
736 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2004 :  14:14:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
On a lighter note...The calgary flames will win the stan cup this year, i know this cause i had a dream they did and they were in their white jersies so that probly means a game 7 series...lets c what happens....
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2004 :  14:15:00  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Of course, the counter argument is that with less 'guns' it takes less for a foreign militia to intimidate us/use force, but there's obviously no easy solution.


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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
4800 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2004 :  14:17:00  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You could pour low viscosity Maple Syrup on them!


If the only tool you have is an elbow macaroni,
all your problems look like Schroedinger's cat.

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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2004 :  14:27:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
haha!
Death by Maple Tree, I like it
Fear will be struck in the hearts
of every man, woman, and child in the world
when they see the mighy maple leaf
that emblazons the Canadian flag...



(and/or sewn on our backpacks ;)



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The Champ
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
736 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2004 :  16:31:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
On a not so light note...i heard that Jack Layton leader of the NDP was living in subsidised housing with his wife while on the city council in Toronto, making around 100 000$ a year.. thats very hypocritical if u ask me, one reason why i would never consider voting for him:)
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2004 :  17:03:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know that's horrible.
But I still can't get over the transfer payment thing.
One hundred million dollars people!
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <

Canada
4307 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2004 :  17:13:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jack Layton is a cretin.

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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
4800 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2004 :  17:16:20  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage  Reply with Quote
"All Cretans are liars."

-Epimenides the Cretan, 6th century BC


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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2004 :  07:24:46  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
What's your/the problem with transfer payments?


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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2004 :  08:42:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
oops,
I meant the sponsorship scandal.
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