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klikger
= Cult of Ray =
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 Posted - 05/13/2004 : 00:40:50
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Don't forget Wisconsin beer, people. New Glarus, Sprecher, Gray's, etc. And Sierra Nevada is good American beer too, just had some Summerfest bottles today.
As for the Canadian patch thing, that is pretty strange. Sure we have an iffy foreign policry and a widely despised president, but we as individuals aren't different than other people. I'm gonna make a patch that says Not Canadian and wear it on my backpack from now on.
Just playing. But seriously: no America, no Pixies, no Catholics. Ouch. ;) |
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This_Guy
- FB Fan -
Canada
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Posted - 05/13/2004 : 00:43:48
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Originally posted by floop
i've always found that to be kind of pathetic. Canadians feeling like they need to have a Canadian flag patch to signify "not American". namely, because a.) why can't you just let the fact that you're Canadian naturally emerge in conversation or what have you? is it really necessairy to wear it on your shirtsleeve? b.) do you really think it gives you that many more perks? do you really think people will treat you that much better because you're Canadian? ie. do you really think they care? c.) did it occur to you that it might be insulting to Americans? because it is very "i'm not American"..
i just think it's sad that Canadians go so far out of their way to announce that they're Canadian when i don't think anyone really cares.
unlike americans who just scream "god bless the usa" on every street corner.
canadians wear their flag with honour because it is in fact a symbol of peace and pride. it is known world wide for invoking good will an spirit. thats why so many americans hide their nationality when travelling abroad. we canucks have no reason to feel shame, so naturally thats why we wave the maple leaf.
on a sidenote, no country in the world waves it's flag with more rabid fervor than america. perhaps thats why the usa leaves such a bitter taste in the mouths of the remaining 90% of the globe.
i always laugh when a yank claims that the world is bitterly jelous of america. like the states has anythihng to be jealous of in the first place. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5456 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2004 : 09:43:11
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Originally posted by This_Guy
unlike americans who just scream "god bless the usa" on every street corner.
canadians wear their flag with honour because it is in fact a symbol of peace and pride. it is known world wide for invoking good will an spirit. thats why so many americans hide their nationality when travelling abroad. we canucks have no reason to feel shame, so naturally thats why we wave the maple leaf.
on a sidenote, no country in the world waves it's flag with more rabid fervor than america. perhaps thats why the usa leaves such a bitter taste in the mouths of the remaining 90% of the globe.
i always laugh when a yank claims that the world is bitterly jelous of america. like the states has anythihng to be jealous of in the first place.
And apparently Canadians excel in humility and being non-judgmental. |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 05/13/2004 : 09:54:18
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speedy, you seem like a good guy too. as have all Canadians i've personally met.
i honestly don't have anything against Canadians and i really don't want to fight.. like i said, i may be taking a trip up there with my dad to go fishing. so i don't want to run into any of you and have you try and kick our asses.
i dated a Canadian girl earlier this year and one of my uncles is originally from Canada. and was a professional hockey player (surly you can appreciate that, no?).. i have no ill will towards Canada.
i guess i'm just kind of perplexed and a little defensive by the anti-US sentiment i've seen from many Canadians (most in fact). yes, almost all Canadians i've met (more than a few) share this attitude. correct me if i'm wrong..
granted, it makes sense for almost anyone to have issues with the US (government).. but with Canadians, we have so many similarities, and we're next door neighbors, it just seems more odd. it seems like you guys are caught between trying to be different from the US, while simultaneously having many many undeniable similarities. and, like adnan said, you guys are often overshadowed by the US in terms of export of culture etc..
i'm not stereotyping Canadians (as you've counter-accused me).. this is just my theory about Canadian national idenity, which i'm open to being wrong about. not claims about how every individual in Canada is. it's not the same as saying "Americans are like this..". etc.
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Originally posted by speedy_m
So floop, you don't like it when others gerneralize about Americans, but you can say our entire population has an identity crisis? Based on what? A handful of Canadians you've met? A handful of Canadians on this board? A television show that makes fun of America (which is on CBC, a Canadian government run network)? Everything that pisses you off about the worlds poor treatment of Americans, you are doing to Canadians, except with WAY less knowledge about Canada than the average European or Canadian has about America.
see, you're assuming that i have little knowledge about Canada. you have no idea how little or how much i know about Canada..
in fact, i happen to know a great deal about Canada and Canadian history. like, that they make maple syrup there. and that igloos were invented there.
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I'm not trying to be argumentative, though it kinda sounds that way. You're a good guy floop (from what I know of you), but what the hell is wrong with a Canadian saying "I'm not American, I'm Canadian, and I'm proud of my country" by wearing a flag on his backpack? Can you get more humble and subtle than that? It's a tiny little patch on a back-pack. It's not like we're burning the stars and stripes.
i hardly call wearing a flag patch "subtle."
i've already stated my views on why i think wearing the flag patches is lame and i stand by my opinion. like is said, i don't want to fight.. i just find some attitudes towards us confusing, ill-informed and hence, semi-annoying.. but i have nothing against Canadian individuals or anyone on this forum.
can't we just get along? |
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Coldheartofstone
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
2025 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2004 : 09:59:55
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Here here! eh?
you may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
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Posted - 05/13/2004 : 10:00:02
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Well, to be fair, he was merely pointing out the hypocrisy in Floop's biting posts and then, unfortunately, responding hypocritically with his own biting commentary.
I'm personally offended by Floop's continued description of me as 'pathetic'/'sad'/'etc' not to mention his complete and utter lack of understanding for our country, especially as a person who has never been here, but I suppose that when someone remains silent and attempts to turn a blind eye rather than provoking further comments and needless debate, it goes unnoticed.
Much easier to denounce the hundreds of Canadians who frequent the board and have said nothing the instant one person does say something (albeit poorly), than to consider the reason this hasn't turned into a 20 page thread full of "Canada the great" rhetoric.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 05/13/2004 : 10:04:13
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Obviously (I hope) most of you know that the UK is composed a bunch of different countries, each mocking each other continually. There's a whole bunch of stereotypes, some which appear to be reasonably accurate, some not at all. The main thing is, for the most part its totally good natured fun. If you asked me was I first and foremost British or English, I would have to say both. I'm also kind of proud to be British in relation to the rest of the world, and English in relation to the rest of the UK or Europe or whatever.
My question (finally) is this: for the most part, is the Canada/US relationship good-natured poking of fun, or is there a more unpleasant streak to it? We occasionally have ruckus's, e.g. at football matches, but thats usually to do with the sort of individual that becomes involved in that sort of thing rather than any actual nationalism. Is there any of that sort of thing between you two?
I've met both Americans and Canadians, and those I've met have been cool, fun, interesting people, however my broader perception would be maybe different. I think thats probably biased by media, politics and everything though.
Sorry, that kind of lacked focus a bit. Ho hum, I'm off for a cuppa.
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 05/13/2004 : 10:24:13
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Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
I'm personally offended by Floop's continued description of me as 'pathetic'/'sad'/'etc' not to mention his complete and utter lack of understanding for our country, especially as a person who has never been here, but I suppose that when someone remains silent and attempts to turn a blind eye rather than provoking further comments and needless debate, it goes unnoticed.
cult, i'm sorry if i offended you. what i said was not directed at you personally, so i'm sorry that you took it personally. i'm just commenting on what i've experienced from Canadians i've met, both here and abroad.
i already admitted that i haven't been to Canada. but thus far the only statement i've made about Canadians, in general, is that, in general, there's an anti-US undercurrent. am i wrong aobut this???
it's a statement about attitudes i've experienced, in the real world. not a statement about what it's like in Canada, or what all Canadians are like. so stop accusing me of "denouncing" all Canadians because i'm not.
instead, maybe you could address some of the questions i asked (in this post, and in my others)..
a.) do you agree or disagree that there is an undeniable "anti-US" sentiment among Canadians, in general?
b.) do you think signifying that you are Canadian will change the way you're treated in other countries?
no one has addressed either of these questions.. i'm honestly just curious about your thoughts.
cult, i'm sorry my posts sounded so harsh and directed towards you. i admit that sounded pretty bad. what can i say.. i was having a bad day and took it out on Canada. not that that's a good excuse. i don't blame you for being pissed..
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
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Posted - 05/13/2004 : 10:43:19
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I'd definitely say the answer to b is yes.
Personally, I don't like being inundated with so much American culture. Especially from a business/corporate point of view. It sad to watch local businesses take a dive when Wal-mart opens up next door. I don't think NAFTA was that great of a move for us. We also follow so many trends or are affected by the US, from an economical stance. I'm still floored sometimes when we drop prime rates when the US didn't first. So yes I'd say there is some anti-US sentiment in that respect. |
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 05/13/2004 : 10:47:34
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http://www.unitednorthamerica.org/phpBB2/topic.php?t=508&start=0
floop, you should see this message board. It's anecdotal but pretty strong stuff anyway. Here are some samples:
"The root cause of this generation of anti-Americans goes back 35 years to Pierre Trudeau and his grand social engineering project. Before then, Americans and Canadians were much friendlier. Of course, we had our disagreements as all friends do, but at the time the border was just a fence separating two good neighbors who had no problem using each other's backyards.
Then the Trudeau liberals came along with their socialist agenda. In order to deflect criticisms of it's many weaknesses, he villified the alternative, right-wing view, which is more similar to what exists in the USA. There had always been a feeling of insecurity in this nation, lying just below the surface, which isn't surprising when you live next door to the largest economic, military, and cultural power of the modern age. Trudeau managed to tap into this, and turn the USA into our enemy - the example of what NOT to be. He took every opportunity to embaress the Americans on the world stage, poking them in the eye whenever possible. And with his cult of personality, we all lapped it up like warm milk.
On came the constant comparisons which have led to a Canadian feeling of superiority which endures to this day. "We have public health care, they don't!" "We are peacekeepers loved by all, they aren't!" "They are so violent, we are not!" "We care about our poor, they don't, look at the ghettos!"
His party still does this today, feeding on this national insecurity that has always existed. "Fear the two-tier 'American-style' health system!" "An elected Senate is too much like America - we can't do that!" "NAFTA will turn us into the 51st state!" Look at the anonymous trolling posts that appear on this site regularly - perfect example of this knee-jerk, uninformed reaction when they see the logo.
We are now brought up to consider ourselves better than Americans. I remember school teachers and college professors indoctrinating us, and the news media is always biast against the USA. I'm very glad and fortunate that my parents were so open-minded and encouraged me to come to my own conclusions.
What is really sad is that the whole base of our patriotism is that we aren't American. Look at beer commercials, or the I Am Canadian rant. Even our favorite comedy shows all have a big helping of fun at American expense. Why can't we just be proud of who we are, not who we aren't?"
"I couldn't agree more. When I was in school my teachers were always blaming the US for the world's problems. They would imply that it was the Americans who were putting the world at risk by standing up for freedom in the world. They would never put blame on the Soviet Union from imprisoning and enslaving Eastern Europe for so many years. Universities in Canada have been brainwashing their student with socialism and anti-Americanism since the 1960's and the teachers graduating out of this system have passed the same agenda down to younger Canadians. In Universities Profs are not to reduce someone's grade based on political idealogy but they do anyway. Appealing a grade based on idealogy is virtually pointless because those who review the appeal are all socialists and will always backup the initial grade because they refuse to accept that there is political bias in the system. Hopefully this will change when all the overaged hippies retire and leave their jobs in the University system."
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Dallas
= Cult of Ray =
USA
725 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2004 : 10:55:13
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The most patently bitter and envious line from this entire thread:
"like the states has anythihng to be jealous of in the first place."
What a hilariously dumb statement. Just dripping with envy. |
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1834 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2004 : 10:55:40
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http://www.acidlogic.com/anti_americanism.htm
Hey, it's fun to google, isn't it?
"Then one day I was watching [Canadian] television and I innocently happened to turn to a show called Talking to Americans. What could this be? The name piqued my interest so I decided to give it a try. The basic format, much like Jaywalking from the Tonight show, was the following: host goes out in American town and ask simple questions, American idiot answers incorrectly and everyone has a good laugh. The main points of the show seemed to be that 1.) Americans are stupid and 2.) Americans know nothing about Canadian history or politics. I was amused, and it was pretty funny come to think of it, but something just didn’t feel right. Jaywalking was confined to ditzy Californian chicks, Talking to Americans made fun of the whole country. It was all in good fun, but was this really the way all Canadians thought of Americans?
As I gradually became infused with this new culture it became apparent that the mood of anti-Americanism was part and parcel of Canadian society. Being pro-Canadia doesn’t exist without being anti-America. It wasn’t always a rabid, vicious hatred but rather a latent urge to show the world that at least Canadians aren’t as bad as “the Americans.” But sometimes it was quite obvious, like when Carolyn Parrish, a Liberal member of the Canadian Parliament, said at the end of a meeting, “Damn Americans, I hate those bastards.” She later retracted her remark, but to me it felt like she was just the mouthpiece to what everyone else thought but was afraid to say.
During all of this I quietly sat back and let it slide. Many snide remarks were made, but over and over it was water under the bridge. Once, a young girl, too young to know better, said “Are you really an American? You seem so nice.” Was this so unbelievable? If I had a dollar (American, those Canadian dollars are like pesos) for every time I’ve heard some Canadian use the term “American asshole” then I’d be investing the money in the stock market by now." |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 05/13/2004 : 11:22:40
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
4800 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2004 : 11:38:24
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klikger
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 05/13/2004 : 11:44:43
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Sorry for sparking the controversy, BLT. It was 3 in the morning and kind of tongue-in-cheek. This is enlightening stuff, though. I had no idea that there was a resentment toward us form our northern neighbors. When I've visited Canada, most people there were really nice and warm. I see us as the same people divided by an artificial line.
I can understand the view that we are not as educated about Canadian history, but have to disagree that it makes us stupid. The U.S.A. has played a much larger role than Canada in world affairs since it's creation (and still does today for better or worse), and we have a more globally relevant legacy than Canada. I'm not putting down Canada, it's just the truth. It should come as no surprise then that other countries learn a fair amount about our history in school. It just so happens that we here in America learn more about British, French, Spanish, and Mexican history than Canadian. I suppose that it wouldn't hurt to do some studying up in our spare time, though. |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 05/13/2004 : 11:52:00
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Originally posted by Carolynanna
I'd definitely say the answer to b is yes.
how about a. ? |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2004 : 12:01:43
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 05/13/2004 : 12:04:04
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Originally posted by apl4eris
Are there any houses currently up for sale in the South Sandwich Islands, BLT?
You must be willing to share space with the penguins. They have good bathroom manners but never seem to find the bathroom. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11690 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2004 : 12:38:56
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Floop, my last part (denoucning Canadians) was more directed at darwin's comment (I actually wrote the post at the same time as both you & ColdHeartofStone and did not notice your posts after I had submitted that reply). Sort of wish I'd just held my breath now, as I usually find I do when I get a little angry. My apologies too. For the record, I did attempt to answer your questions yesterday, but every response ended in a rant because I was still a little too upset. I do apologize too, though.
a) Anti-US sentiment. Yeah, it's there in varying degrees from person to person and region to region, and I'm not proud of it. Some of it is friendly rivalry as Cheeseman talks of, some of it is actual bitterness. Just to try to give you a little insight as to where some of it may come from, not to justify this:
George W. Bush:
Until recently (probably mostly because election time is coming and the US is finally starting to feel the effects of the damaged US-Canada relationship), he has been a complete jerk to be polite about it. What has always been one of the healthiest international relationships on the planet (including the world's largest/longest undefended border) deteriorated very fast. I could write an essay on the things that Bush almost single-handedly did to contribute to this deterioration, but you'll have to take my word for it.
General Perceived Attitude:
Of course, there's nothing personal here. I know a lot of you and respect you quite a bit and also realize you don't fit into this description. But the stereotype, perhaps, is that there are many who do, or at least, this is the perceived feeling we get from the US. And that is one of an arrogant bigger brother. References like "America Junior" as though we're nothing but a failed attempt to emulate you, the fact that there are so many south of the border who are completely ignorant of what happens north (come on, I don't think knowing a nation's capital, especially when they're one of only two neighbours is that hard. How many of the people you know can name our current PM?). The media is probably more responsible for this than anyone, and as we all know, shows mostly negative things, and skewed to boot. But a lot of people buy what the media shows, and the elements of American society they exhibit are an increasingly paranoid, litigous, and arrogant society. Defying international law because who's going to stand in their way? Refusing Kyoto because of economics (debatable, I admit, but this is appearances we're talking about, not necessarily reality) when they are the wealthiest country in the world and should be taking a leadership position. Deposing one leader with another for their own interests in a sovereign state. Again, this is the view of America, which essentially means your government, which is representative of the majority of Americans' interests. Not necessarily yours. Just a broad stereotype. That's the most specific that something of this nature can get, because we're talking about two entities, Canada & the US. There are Canadians (though few) that applaud the war with Iraq. There are Americans (like you) that are against it and would like nothing more than a change in government. These are obviously sweeping generalizations, and I'm not saying I subscribe to them, but there you have them.
Patriotism:
Goes hand in hand with the attitude thing, I guess. It's just so over-the-top sometimes, which I imagine is how you feel about the badges. Sort of ironic, I suppose. :)
Identity:
Yeah, part of the problem, as you've stated, is that Canadians do have an identity crisis. Who are we when most of our pop-culture is directly imported from the US? Why don't we have a culture of our own? The answer, of course, is that we do, but we can't really generate the requesite media to convey that culture even with a government funded television station. How can we even attempt it when we have a world where (justly) talented individuals in their art are paid more and when we sit right beside the capitalistic capital of the world? So part of this frustration is perhaps our unwillingness and probably in some cases inability to compete with the US and then having it rubbed in our faces day after day whether by news programs, by migration of our hockey teams and players to higher paying places south of the border, to... maybe the only way we can protect our culture and identity is by being proud of what we do accomplish, and of the Canadians who do get somewhere/do something, even though ironically this 'success' is measured in terms of American acceptance. And so part of the anti-American sentiment is probably a rebellion against using America as a measuring stick while at the same time promoting our own successes.
Current Trade examples:
Right now, you'll find a lot of people in BC pissed about the US stalling softwood disputes as long as possible, despite multiple rulings by WTC and other non-partisan international organizations in Canada's favour. You'll find a large, upset, and financially wounded group of people upset about the perpetually closed border for exported beef which has already scientifically been proven (again by third parties) to be as safe as you're going to get from anywhere (and far more tested than America's own internal beef supply). The motives for this appear to be subsidizing southern cattle ranchers' who want to continue selling beef at inflated pricese and without competition from Alberta and Saskatchewan in particular. These are, at best, lame excuses, I'm just trying to cover a bunch of hot topics here.
In short, I don't think you can really understand the complex feeling on Americans until you've lived in Canada, and I don't hope to be able to begin to explain it. For all our similarities, we do have some significant differences as a whole, but I think in the end, we all just want a better world... we just disagree on how to accomplish this.
b) I'm not so worried about being mistaken as "that kind" of American (see above) by someone I talk to for any length of time. It's the people I don't talk to, the people who might be grouping me under these sweeping generalizations because, as you say, we're really NOT that different. I would hope the majority of people would not judge me based on a misinterpreted nationality, or based on nationality at all, but I also have been around enough to know better. I think if you were to, the next time you're abroad, pretend to be Canadian (or any other nationality you can pull off) and then broach the topic of America, you might see a much more prevalent anti-American undercurrent - especially in certain places. I just don't need any ill-will misdirected at me by these unrational types, and I think that if it prevents someone with ill intent from targetting me because they think I'm American, then is there really any harm in wearing it? Heck, if nothing else, maybe it'll show you guys which side is up. :)
Anyway, that's about as good as I can do. I don't feel the way that I've described above necessarily, but there are certainly people who do. There are a lot of Americans on these boards, and I have friends and family in the US and very few act as I've written above, though perhaps that's because they wouldn't be friends if they did and because most of the forum is generally an intelligent gathering.
I agree, why can't we get along? Now let's hold hands and sing Kumba-ya. I just never want to write a post this long again.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 05/13/2004 : 13:14:16
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Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
Floop, my last part (denoucning Canadians) was more directed at darwin's comment
Sorry, I wasn't denouncing Canadians. I was just replying very briefly to the lame statement that boiled down to "everybody likes the good will of Canadians and Americans have nothing to offer" and irony of how little good will there was in that statement (it was very un-Canadian).
Hey, the best reliever in baseball right now is from Canada and Fergie Jenkins was a mighty fine ballplayer. So, go Canada! |
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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 05/13/2004 : 13:20:38
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And Michael J. Fox is Canadian, who's made such classic movies as Teenwolf, and Doc Hollywood.
I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11690 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2004 : 13:39:47
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True, true. And let's not forget Back to the Future! Or have those come out yet?
And of course, our favourite musician of all time is American. And I had a huge crush on a Mexican girl I met once. Which might not be Mexico's crowning achievement, but I believe that she is probably up there. So yahoo! North America. :)
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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 05/13/2004 : 13:50:34
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Long live Canmexica!!
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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 05/13/2004 : 13:57:50
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Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
True, true. And let's not forget Back to the Future! Or have those come out yet?
"Join the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened"
I'll throw some banana peels into my Delorian, cruise on in to 1985, and let ya know.
Also, aren't we actually living in the time period of Back to the Future 3, right now?
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 05/13/2004 : 14:07:45
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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1342 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2004 : 14:12:54
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Question: Do Canadians admire Michael J. Fox as much as I do?
(I'm being serious)
I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11690 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2004 : 14:27:57
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Yeah, lots of the Hollywood Canadians end up becoming American citizens - not quite so long of a commute. As far as I'm concerned, you guys can have Pam. :)
I can't really answer about whether all Canadians love Micheal J. Fox. It's never come up in a conversation, strangely. :) I've been craving watching those movies again since I was in Florida and on the BTF ride, though I can't find the widescreen DVDs anywhere to purchase.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 05/13/2004 : 14:32:34
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Wasn't Part III set in the Wild West? I don't know what its like round your parts, but they don't use many steam trains round my neck of the woods.
"Everywhere I go I want to travel by X-Wing" |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2004 : 14:47:39
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| Gordon Lightfoot was Canadian and he sang poignant songs about sunken ships in the Great Lakes. Chalk up another for Canada! |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2004 : 14:48:17
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| It seems that there's been more and more pro-sentiment for Michael J Fox since he first disclosed his illness. |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 05/13/2004 : 14:53:29
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Originally posted by Carolynanna
It seems that there's been more and more pro-sentiment for Michael J Fox since he first disclosed his illness.
You mean he's an upwardly mobile Republican in real life? I thought that was only on TV. |
Edited by - BLT on 05/13/2004 14:54:09 |
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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 05/13/2004 : 14:55:37
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Originally posted by Cheeseman1000
Wasn't Part III set in the Wild West? I don't know what its like round your parts, but they don't use many steam trains round my neck of the woods.
"Everywhere I go I want to travel by X-Wing"
Hehe...sorry, I meant Part II!
I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb. |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2004 : 14:56:54
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See you've got Alex P Keaton and Michael J Fox mixed up.
He has Parkinson's. |
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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1342 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2004 : 14:57:24
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Originally posted by BLT
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Originally posted by Carolynanna
It seems that there's been more and more pro-sentiment for Michael J Fox since he first disclosed his illness.
You mean he's an upwardly mobile Republican in real life? I thought that was only on TV.
Actually the most pro-sentiment came when he had to work on the same set as Skippy. That's when I became a huge admirer.
Michael J. Fox/Alex P. Keaton/Scott WhateverfromTeenwolf = My Idol
I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb. |
Edited by - The Calistanian on 05/13/2004 14:58:50 |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 05/13/2004 : 15:09:34
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MCFLY!!!
I love that film.
"Everywhere I go I want to travel by X-Wing" |
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Do you love/hate Americans?
