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klikger
= Cult of Ray =

693 Posts

Posted - 05/10/2004 :  23:41:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know everyone here is a FB fan, and that makes us love eachother unconditionally. But to everyone who isn't from the U.S., what is your opinion of Americans (based on experiences <2reelers> and/or irrational biases) in general? And please don't only comment on our current presidential administration, because most of us on this site at least agree that he is kind of a putz. Just wondering.

Edited by - klikger on 05/11/2004 07:29:22

TarTar
* Dog in the Sand *

1968 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  00:07:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Listen up, man, I'll tell you who I am. Just another stupid American. You don't wanna listen, you don't wanna understand, so finish up your drink and go home.

"(insert clever quote here)"
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This_Guy
- FB Fan -

Canada
146 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  01:48:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
in general americans are pretty good people.
they happen to be a little proud, boisterous and arrogant, but in their hearts they just want the same thing as folks world wide.

to be loved as a pround, boisterous and arrogant people.
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Malax
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1340 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  04:54:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Didn't I start a tongue in cheek topic like this once and got booed of the face of the earth?



I May've Joined The Cult Of Frank If I Knew What The Balls Was Going On.

*Adapted By Carolynanna*
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Bartholomew
= Cult of Ray =

USA
344 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  06:07:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Why encourage singling anybody out? Do you love/hate Italians? Stupid question.
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Malax
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1340 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  06:29:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
See klikger. Plus its a bit of a broad assumption that all americans eat rectum. When we all know its only about 90%

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Damn studio audience



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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *

Austria
1072 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  07:23:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
now this is a stupid question...maybe a better one would be "what are your experiences with americans (or fins or italians or chinese or...) and can you generalize something ?"
to this i could reply, americans are the most friendly people i met, and they are also very, very honest. on the other hand, when i was there, i had the feeling that there is some some overall light paranoia in society which reflects back to the individuals.



I joined the cult of this mouse / and now I occidentally tic-tac
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klikger
= Cult of Ray =

693 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  07:25:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's just the kind of post I wanted, Malax. :) And Bart, I'll try to only talk about people in the broadest context from now on. I don't love the Pixies or Frank Black anymore. I love rock music.

And Italians. :P
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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1342 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  08:39:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As an American, I have the right to say this:
I HATE 'EM! <smiley face>

I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb.
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soundofataris
= Cult of Ray =

USA
715 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  08:41:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It wicked to hate that many people at once.

warm....warmer.....disco!
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1764 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  09:43:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Calistanian

As an American, I have the right to say this:
I HATE 'EM! <smiley face>

I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb.



same. well, most anyway.


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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1342 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  10:07:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, you know, I hate mustard too.
Hate is just one of those crazy words. Like the crazy, mixed-up world we live in.

I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb.
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Coldheartofstone
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
2025 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  10:14:47  Show Profile  Click to see Coldheartofstone's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
You hate mustard....?
The tangiest of all condiments...?

WHY god WHY can't we all just get along?

Who gave you permission to rearrange me?
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
4800 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  10:24:32  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I hate Alericans.
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1973 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  10:28:46  Show Profile  Visit Adnan_le_Terrible's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm afraid of Alerica!



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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  10:36:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just wanna get along!

I just wanna get along!

I just wanna get along!

Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!!
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Coldheartofstone
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
2025 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  10:40:01  Show Profile  Click to see Coldheartofstone's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Somebody please think about the MUSTARD!

Who gave you permission to rearrange me?
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  10:41:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I will, I love the stuff.

Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!!
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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1342 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  11:09:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mustard sucks...it ruins everything it's put on.
Now honey mustard is okay, for awhile.
I've also had Dijon mustard, that's pretty good.

Pickles on hamburgers suck too. It ruins it. ("It ruins it" is kind of a weird looking sentence) However, pickles by themselves are pretty good.

These are the things that make me hate Americans.<smiley face>

I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb.
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1973 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  11:27:35  Show Profile  Visit Adnan_le_Terrible's Homepage  Reply with Quote
mustard is good

it's healthy

not like milk

milk is unhealthy



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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1342 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  11:44:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Basically, though, mustard is the "milk" of the mustard seed.

I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb.
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
4800 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  11:45:18  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I love mustard milk.

They even each other out. Neutral healthiness.
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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1342 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  12:59:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A mustard mustache is soooo sexy too.

I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  14:11:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I love MAYONNAISE!!!

Too much.

Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!!
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  14:18:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by This_Guy

in general americans are pretty good people.
they happen to be a little proud, boisterous and arrogant, but in their hearts they just want the same thing as folks world wide.

to be loved as a pround, boisterous and arrogant people.




i'll never quite understood the anti-US vibe that's so prevalent among Canadians.

but that's what makes life special. mystery.
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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1342 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  14:18:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Has anybody else heard the rumor that mayonnaise is melted down elephant tusks? Another reason to hate Americans.

I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  14:41:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
But Americans didn't invent mayonnaise.



And elephants don't exist!!!

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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  15:00:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by floop

quote:
Originally posted by This_Guy

in general americans are pretty good people.
they happen to be a little proud, boisterous and arrogant, but in their hearts they just want the same thing as folks world wide.

to be loved as a pround, boisterous and arrogant people.




i'll never quite understood the anti-US vibe that's so prevalent among Canadians.

but that's what makes life special. mystery.



What's your problem asshole?
Kidding, but how many Canadians do you know?

Edited by - Carolynanna on 05/11/2004 15:01:31
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  15:05:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i've only known one Canadian, and that was one too many.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5456 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  15:08:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Once I was up in Canada for a week for my job and I saw a TV news report on the CBC where they sent a reporter to Washington D.C. to ask Americans where the capital of Canada is? Most of the Americans couldn't answer. They then went back to the anchors in the studio who in their pitter-patter conversation concluded that Canada needed to do a better of teaching Americans about Canada. I thought the better conclusion was that many Americans are dumb or don't care about the rest of the world. So, either Canadians are too nice or their self-esteem as a nation is a bit too low.
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GypsyDeath
Zapped Profile

3575 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  15:08:50  Show Profile  Visit GypsyDeath's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Silly language, which is soon going to over take the english language because of damn spell check.

All really fat, and pretty dumb, and pretty obnoxious. haha

nah, just kidding, i dont think you could ever generalise them, they are all different.

Just like the english dont sit around drinking tea with bad teeth...

ok, so maybe that true to a certain extent!




I love you for what I am not,
I did not ask for what I have got.


You will get used to me.
Welcome to your new joy.
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~

Ireland
1750 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  15:26:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i love everyone. almost.
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1973 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  15:38:58  Show Profile  Visit Adnan_le_Terrible's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If you love everyone that means you love noone.



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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11690 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  16:06:56  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by darwin

Once I was up in Canada for a week for my job and I saw a TV news report on the CBC where they sent a reporter to Washington D.C. to ask Americans where the capital of Canada is? Most of the Americans couldn't answer. They then went back to the anchors in the studio who in their pitter-patter conversation concluded that Canada needed to do a better of teaching Americans about Canada. I thought the better conclusion was that many Americans are dumb or don't care about the rest of the world. So, either Canadians are too nice or their self-esteem as a nation is a bit too low.



Heh, well, I imagine you were probably watching mock-news-show This Hour Has 22 Minutes? The sometimes run segments where they interview Americans asking them questions about Canada. You wouldn't believe some of the stuff that comes up. People not knowing the capital of Canada is Ottawa or thinking it's Toronto is pretty common. If you want to entertain yourself, just go ask some people on the street.

I was in Europe backpacking and at a hostel I met a Danish couple, a Frenchman, and an American. We were sitting at a little cafe discussing politics and of course the American started saying how they've never lost a war, yadayadayada. So the Danish bloke asks him about the war of 1812 (which I was too polite to bring up), and this brings up Canadian politics. At this point, he mentions as a means of proving something else that we're still ruled by the queen. I probably am guilty of laughing out loud as I tell him that we have not been under British rule for many years, and that she is now no more than a ceremonial figurehead with no real power.

And what happens at this point? He argues with me. Not just polite, "Well, I thought this, though" but "Nope. She runs your country." And finally I remind him that I live in Canada and he doesn't and probably have a little more insight into such things, but it doesn't matter. He can't possibly be wrong. He actually got angry. The rest of us were looking at each other in disbelief and/or amusement.

But that's one story, and I've met lots of Americans I like and who are not arrogant and not ego-centric. But it does seem on the whole like Americans tend to be a little too focused on their own country and not enough on what's going on. I'm pretty sure the whole of Europe (on the other side of the planet) could *on average* tell you more about Canada than our southern neighbours. I have yet to meet someone who knows geographically where Saskatchewan is much less that it's a province (among only 10) in Canada. You could name any US state and I'm sure that 90% of Canadians would not only be able to tell you it's a US state (there are 50 of em) but would probably be able to give you an approximate geographical location and maybe even a capital city.

But this is sounding like a rant when it's really more of an analysis of the whole Canadian-American thing from a Canadian's point-of-view. I suppose we like to be tolerant up here, or try to be, and pride ourselves on it, while we see the opposite south of us. This might be directly related to the extreme and blinding nationalism that is all the more blatant when you're not seeing it every day. I did a propaganda analysis of Bush's post 9/11 speech to Congress and it used all seven (is it seven or nine?) devices of propoganda so much it was scary. I think being proud of your country is one thing, but being nationalistic is another, with perhaps more positive connotations but also some serious consequences.

Hope this isn't offensive to anyone, not my intent if so. Now I go.


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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1973 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  16:25:55  Show Profile  Visit Adnan_le_Terrible's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Now I know you're not the Swimmer, Dean. I wasn't sure until now.



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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5456 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2004 :  17:03:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
Heh, well, I imagine you were probably watching mock-news-show This Hour Has 22 Minutes?


No, it was a regular newscast about 5 years ago.
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