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TarTar
* Dog in the Sand *

1965 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  12:15:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have recently developed an addiction to New Order. I have to say, for being an 80s pop band, their songs just transcend that formula so much and are just so well-crafted. I suppose part of this comes from the fact that they were once Joy Division, a band with a much more left-of-center approach to music. And I like Joy Division, but I have to say, I get more of a kick out of New Order. My favorites right now are Nothing To Me (I think it's actually titled Let's Go), True Faith, 1963, World In Motion, and Blue Monday. I like Bizarre Love Triangle, but I've heard it so many times, and actually kind of prefer the Frente! cover.

"(insert clever quote here)"

Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1973 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  12:25:12  Show Profile  Visit Adnan_le_Terrible's Homepage  Reply with Quote
"Thieves like us" and "Perfect kiss" are my favorite NO songs. I like "Temptation" as well. Their last album was very good, too.

I also like Joy Division very much, it was really a great band (almost the same line up as NO, but their music really evolved through years).



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ObfuscateByWill
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1887 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  12:34:20  Show Profile  Visit ObfuscateByWill's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I love New Order.

Although it's been fairly well dissed, I believe Movement is their best album. (Their first)

Perfect for the Joy Division fan curious about New Order ...or someone who thinks that NO is just a dance/pop group.



*I used to be into sadism, necrophilia, and bestiality, but I gave them all up when I realized I was flogging a dead horse.
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offerw
* Dog in the Sand *

South Africa
1264 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  12:39:52  Show Profile  Click to see offerw's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
New Order is a magnificent band and they've made many great records. Many of their songs bring back memories of my high school years in the eighties. I devoured each new record of theirs and still love most of it today. Low Life is my favorite New Order album. Ever heard the song Ceremony? It is early New Order and Peter Hook plays one of the most beautifull bass melodies ever. Everything's Gone Green and Temptation are also incredible.

wilhelm
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1973 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  12:45:35  Show Profile  Visit Adnan_le_Terrible's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ceremony is more like Joy Division than NO. It's one of my favourites as well, the lyrics are great.



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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1973 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  12:50:05  Show Profile  Visit Adnan_le_Terrible's Homepage  Reply with Quote
"Ceremony"

This is why events unnerve me,
They find it all, a different story,
Notice whom for wheels are turning,
Turn again and turn towards this time,
All she ask's the strength to hold me,
Then again the same old story,
World will travel, oh so quickly,
Travel first and lean towards this time.

Oh, I'll break them down, no mercy shown,
Heaven knows, it's got to be this time,
Watching her, these things she said,
The times she cried,
Too frail to wake this time.

Oh I'll break them down, no mercy shown
Heaven knows, it's got to be this time,
Avenues all lined with trees,
Picture me and then you start watching,
Watching forever, forever,
Watching love grow, forever,
Letting me know, forever.




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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
2674 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  12:56:24  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I heard Blue Monday so much growing up I think I've developed a mild allergy to it. Temptation I really like tho.

-Owen

Edited by - Newo on 05/03/2004 12:58:59
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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1222 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  13:00:02  Show Profile  Visit misleadtheworld's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've never been partial to New Order.


It's getting colder....
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bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2638 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  13:02:34  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by misleadtheworld

I've never been partial to New Order.


It's getting colder....



no, me neither. in fact i dislike them a lot.


Is it like today? Oh, oh, oh-oh. Then there followed days with kings, empires and revolutions. blood just looks the same when you open the veins. sometimes it was faith, power or reason as the cornerstone. but the furrowed brow has never left his face. he said, how did it come to this?
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  13:07:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
got Substance a while back, some pretty good tracks.
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"

USA
3988 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  13:07:32  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i like Bizarre Love Triangle. Other than that, I don't know them too much . Does anyone like Erasure? My friend is addicted to them.

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there's fire if you want it, let me know. I'm sick and tired of letting go...
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  13:10:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I much prefer Joy Division.

Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!!
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bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2638 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  13:17:22  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

I much prefer Joy Division.

Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!!



never really liked joy division either... seems a bit boring. my best mate loves them though. i can see why people would like them. just not my thing. you know. does absolutely fuck all for me... i might as well listen to elevator music.


Is it like today? Oh, oh, oh-oh. Then there followed days with kings, empires and revolutions. blood just looks the same when you open the veins. sometimes it was faith, power or reason as the cornerstone. but the furrowed brow has never left his face. he said, how did it come to this?
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  13:30:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You probably already do.

Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!!
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ObfuscateByWill
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1887 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  13:33:34  Show Profile  Visit ObfuscateByWill's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ramona

i like Bizarre Love Triangle. Other than that, I don't know them too much . Does anyone like Erasure? My friend is addicted to them.

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there's fire if you want it, let me know. I'm sick and tired of letting go...



I had Erasure's The Innocents when I was a teenager.

It was awful!



*I used to be into sadism, necrophilia, and bestiality, but I gave them all up when I realized I was flogging a dead horse.
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bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2638 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  13:35:03  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

You probably already do.

Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!!



nah, been listening to my 2 cd frank black best of, that i made for a mate as a sampler... and the jim white album.


Is it like today? Oh, oh, oh-oh. Then there followed days with kings, empires and revolutions. blood just looks the same when you open the veins. sometimes it was faith, power or reason as the cornerstone. but the furrowed brow has never left his face. he said, how did it come to this?
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  13:36:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
elevator lady
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Alpha Soixante
- FB Fan -

Canada
129 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  15:09:47  Show Profile  Visit Alpha Soixante's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ceremony's one of my favorites too. As Adnan said, it is pretty Joy Divisiony. There are even early versions of it with Ian Curtis on vocals. Has anyone heard Galaxie 500's cover of Ceremony? It's quite good.

I'd recommend NO's album Power, Corruption and Lies.

Edited by - Alpha Soixante on 05/03/2004 15:12:22
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frank_black_francis
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
895 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  15:49:07  Show Profile  Visit frank_black_francis's Homepage  Reply with Quote
AHHHH....NEW ORDER....JOY DIVISION WITHOUT THE OOMMPH!
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cvanepps
= Cult of Ray =

USA
442 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  16:42:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
TT, you can't seem to shake me today.

Back in 1989 or 1990, I saw the "Monsters of Art" show in upstate New York. It featured Sugarcubes, New Order, and Public Image Limited. I went for PiL, of course. It was a great show!

-= It's not easy to kidnap a fat man =-
http://christophervanepps.iuma.com
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1973 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  19:32:32  Show Profile  Visit Adnan_le_Terrible's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bumblebeeboy2

quote:
Originally posted by misleadtheworld

I've never been partial to New Order.


It's getting colder....



no, me neither. in fact i dislike them a lot.


Is it like today? Oh, oh, oh-oh. Then there followed days with kings, empires and revolutions. blood just looks the same when you open the veins. sometimes it was faith, power or reason as the cornerstone. but the furrowed brow has never left his face. he said, how did it come to this?




Bambi, you hate Morissey, you hate New Order...I think you have a problem with your identity.



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mariggy
- FB Fan -

Japan
65 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  22:13:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
bumblebeeboy2, don't hate N.O. so much!



They look happy with Iggy's portraits. They both are Iggy's children!?


I join The Broken English Club. ---It's educational.
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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1222 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2004 :  00:54:16  Show Profile  Visit misleadtheworld's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Adnan_le_Terrible

quote:
Originally posted by bumblebeeboy2

quote:
Originally posted by misleadtheworld

I've never been partial to New Order.


It's getting colder....



no, me neither. in fact i dislike them a lot.


Is it like today? Oh, oh, oh-oh. Then there followed days with kings, empires and revolutions. blood just looks the same when you open the veins. sometimes it was faith, power or reason as the cornerstone. but the furrowed brow has never left his face. he said, how did it come to this?




Bambi, you hate Morissey, you hate New Order...I think you have a problem with your identity.






I'm not partial to Morrissey either. I think that new song, 'Irish Blood, English Heart', is awful. He should've kept it as a poem.


It's getting colder....
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bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2638 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2004 :  05:18:15  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Adnan_le_Terrible


Bambi, you hate Morissey, you hate New Order...I think you have a problem with your identity.







i like loads, you probably haven't heard of most of it. just don't like that terribly average indie crap that i hear most nights when i go out...


Is it like today? Oh, oh, oh-oh. Then there followed days with kings, empires and revolutions. blood just looks the same when you open the veins. sometimes it was faith, power or reason as the cornerstone. but the furrowed brow has never left his face. he said, how did it come to this?
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bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2638 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2004 :  05:20:56  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by misleadtheworld

quote:
Originally posted by Adnan_le_Terrible
Bambi, you hate Morissey, you hate New Order...I think you have a problem with your identity.






I'm not partial to Morrissey either. I think that new song, 'Irish Blood, English Heart', is awful. He should've kept it as a poem.


It's getting colder....



thank god there's someone else! i thought i was going to be executed, by rather sharp flower stems, for daring to say i don't like morrissey...


Is it like today? Oh, oh, oh-oh. Then there followed days with kings, empires and revolutions. blood just looks the same when you open the veins. sometimes it was faith, power or reason as the cornerstone. but the furrowed brow has never left his face. he said, how did it come to this?
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
2674 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2004 :  06:05:43  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I've got nothing against him, it is weird how people froth at the mouth over him tho. Met Boz Boorer at a party a few years ago. He loooks a little like Morrisey except he has a false front tooth he likes to take out.

-Owen
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Brackish Heart
- FB Fan -

Australia
176 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2004 :  06:12:28  Show Profile  Visit Brackish Heart's Homepage  Click to see Brackish Heart's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
New Order are awesome. I'm in the midst of compiling my favourite songs of all time for a cd in my car (im pretty bored) and Perfect Kiss is #2 behind The Happening at #1.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2004 :  10:38:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Simon just hates bands from Manchester in general.

I am hearing really great things of one band from Manchester that have only played a couple of gigs. They have received numerous Pixies/Elliot Smith comparisons.

I'll not tell you what they are called though Simon, I'll wait 'til they are huge and you are claiming they are shit 'cos they are popular and from Manchester.

Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!!
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pixiesosso
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Posted - 05/05/2004 :  19:38:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
New Order has a lot of great song's , bizarre love triangle is my favorite , i thing that Frank got the inspiration for HANG ON TO YOUR EGO from then !
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bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2638 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2004 :  03:04:27  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

Simon just hates bands from Manchester in general.

I am hearing really great things of one band from Manchester that have only played a couple of gigs. They have received numerous Pixies/Elliot Smith comparisons.

I'll not tell you what they are called though Simon, I'll wait 'til they are huge and you are claiming they are shit 'cos they are popular and from Manchester.

Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!!



ah, that band sounds like mine, but i prefer pixies/fb/hefner/pavement/jonathan richman comparisons...

but yes, everything else from manchester is shit. which is annoying, as i love it here. why wouldn't hefner, blur (tries to think of more english bands he likes) or... erm... yeah, be from here.


Is it like today? Oh, oh, oh-oh. Then there followed days with kings, empires and revolutions. blood just looks the same when you open the veins. sometimes it was faith, power or reason as the cornerstone. but the furrowed brow has never left his face. he said, how did it come to this?
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1973 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2004 :  03:13:33  Show Profile  Visit Adnan_le_Terrible's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Belle and Sebastian are, by far, the best band on the island. They're Scottish, it's almost like Manchester, isn't it?

Hefner are OK but that's all.



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bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2638 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2004 :  03:53:58  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Adnan_le_Terrible

Belle and Sebastian are, by far, the best band on the island. They're Scottish, it's almost like Manchester, isn't it?

Hefner are OK but that's all.







bloody hell?! belle and sebastian too!? you should live over there. that's all i ever hear when i go out to the alternative indie clubs...

i find belle and sebastian so dull and pretencious. awful stuff.


Is it like today? Oh, oh, oh-oh. Then there followed days with kings, empires and revolutions. blood just looks the same when you open the veins. sometimes it was faith, power or reason as the cornerstone. but the furrowed brow has never left his face. he said, how did it come to this?
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2004 :  11:39:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They are so twee, as they say!!!

I really like Blur Simon, but they are hardly the best British band ever!!! Surely you could have come up with someone better.

By the way have you heard Amplifier yet Simon? They are a new band from Manchester. I saw the last few tracks they played in support of Auf Der Maur at the Hop & Grape recently. They were OK, not great but they seem to be quite highly rated. Not your usual Manchester sound, that's for sure.

By the way, If I had been refering to your band, you would have known it. Still I am actually very surprised that you do not know who I am refering to. You have a close link.

Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!!
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offerw
* Dog in the Sand *

South Africa
1264 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2004 :  13:22:39  Show Profile  Click to see offerw's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I Am Kloot are from Manchester right? I liked their last album. Everyone seems to have ignored it though.

wilhelm
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bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2638 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2004 :  13:27:53  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
well mike... the only band i have a close link with, apart from my own, is drone... so unless you have a band... ;)

not heard of that band you mentioned... surprising as i'm taking an active interest in small/new bands at the moment in the area.


Is it like today? Oh, oh, oh-oh. Then there followed days with kings, empires and revolutions. blood just looks the same when you open the veins. sometimes it was faith, power or reason as the cornerstone. but the furrowed brow has never left his face. he said, how did it come to this?
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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1222 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2004 :  13:47:43  Show Profile  Visit misleadtheworld's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bumblebeeboy2

quote:
Originally posted by Adnan_le_Terrible

Belle and Sebastian are, by far, the best band on the island. They're Scottish, it's almost like Manchester, isn't it?

Hefner are OK but that's all.







bloody hell?! belle and sebastian too!? you should live over there. that's all i ever hear when i go out to the alternative indie clubs...

i find belle and sebastian so dull and pretencious. awful stuff.


Is it like today? Oh, oh, oh-oh. Then there followed days with kings, empires and revolutions. blood just looks the same when you open the veins. sometimes it was faith, power or reason as the cornerstone. but the furrowed brow has never left his face. he said, how did it come to this?




Weird. I'm not keen on them either! Let's spoil this, do you like Fiery Furnaces?


It's getting colder....
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