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Brackish
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Posted - 04/23/2004 :  15:27:58  Show Profile  Visit Brackish's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I really think this is one of Dylan's best songs. It is truly epic. It seems so underappreciated, I never hear anyone mention it. So, uh, I'm mentioning it. It's a really great song, it's on Blood on the Tracks. That whole album is great. Surely, someone must agree?

darwin
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Posted - 04/23/2004 :  23:43:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree the album is great. I've never gotten the significance of the story in that song. Do you have an interpretation of what it's about?
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peter radiator
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Posted - 04/24/2004 :  14:34:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Brackish

I really think this is one of Dylan's best songs. It is truly epic. It seems so underappreciated, I never hear anyone mention it. So, uh, I'm mentioning it. It's a really great song, it's on Blood on the Tracks. That whole album is great. Surely, someone must agree?



It's interesting to note that this particular tune is one of the most vividly "cinematic" of Dylan's many story-songs.

In fact, over the years, there have been at least three serious attempts to turn the song into an actual movie, but they have never progressed beyond the rough shooting-script stage. Dylan himself was closely involved with one of the attempts in the mid 1980s.

Check out the Elvis Costello song "Starting To Come To Me" off of the All This Useless Beauty LP for one of the most blatant (but extremely well-done) Dylan rip-offs ever.

He appropriates the beat, vibe, and wordplay of "Lily, Rosemary & The Jack of Hearts" while still managing to craft a unique and very entertaining song that stands on its own.

~ Peter Radiator

"Real music is out there and real people are making it." ~ Webb Wilder
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Perhaps
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Posted - 04/27/2004 :  05:58:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is one one my favorites as well.

I'd say you could pretty well interpret the song by listening to it over several iterations.

I like Blood on the Tracks, but DESIRE (Romance in Durango!!) is my favorite, followed by BLONDE on BLONDE. In my opinion the best B-sides come from BLOOD ON THE TRACKS - incl. a very different version of Lily... But, yes, I agree the album rocks, and is almost as rockin' as some of his others.
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peter radiator
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Posted - 04/27/2004 :  11:14:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Perhaps

It is one one my favorites as well.

I'd say you could pretty well interpret the song by listening to it over several iterations.

I like Blood on the Tracks, but DESIRE (Romance in Durango!!) is my favorite, followed by BLONDE on BLONDE. In my opinion the best B-sides come from BLOOD ON THE TRACKS - incl. a very different version of Lily... But, yes, I agree the album rocks, and is almost as rockin' as some of his others.



Did you know that at the very end of his last tour of England, Dylan played "Romance In Durango" for the first time since 1976? It was COMPLETELY unexpected, and it appears to have been a one-shot deal. He has not repeated it since.

It was a PHENOMENAL performance.

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darwin
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Posted - 04/27/2004 :  11:50:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Perhaps

It is one one my favorites as well.

I'd say you could pretty well interpret the song by listening to it over several iterations.




I can follow the story (admitedly my attention span is limited) but the significance of the story is lost on me.
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Perhaps
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Posted - 04/27/2004 :  12:37:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That rocks. I would love to hear him play it.

Shamefully I could not have seen him in 76; but have seen him about 25 times since then. I heard "girl from the north counrty" which seemed rare (in comparison to other times).

I would imagine there is some deep truth to Lily, and any other tune he plays. But the songs seem to be for the people. More like archetypes than anything else.
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Brackish
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Posted - 04/27/2004 :  17:24:45  Show Profile  Visit Brackish's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I can't really say I know exactly what the song is about, other than the fairly staightforward narrative of the lyrics. But I kinda like not knowing, I mean I like the vague sense that there's something Unknown being referred to. I get the same sense in a lot of Frank Black songs. Like I don't know who or what Billy Radcliffe is about, but I like the sense that it IS about something, even though I don't know what that something is. I think this is what separates a lot of people musically and artistically, some people can't appreciate it unless it's spelled out for them, no mystery, no subtext. Others like myself, and I think many Frank Black fans, enjoy the freedom to interpret and just enjoy as is. I dunno.
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