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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6213 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2004 :  13:34:53  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
just a few days ago someone posted a scan of a guitar-magazine's story about the pixies guitar set-up.
It said that Joey never was into chorus(or a-like) effects
listening to the shows I can definately hear some wah-wah, chorus or things that I haven't heard on the pixies bootlegs before.
Did he change his mind?

ps
Does he still play on a borrowed les paul? (borrowed from kim that is)?



"I joined the Cult of Frank/Nobody wanted to join my Culf"

The Passion Of El Diablo
= Cult of Ray =

258 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2004 :  13:45:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Joey Santiago's playing has been brilliant. His shy, unassuming stage demeanor is refreshing. He is a god.
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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1186 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2004 :  13:54:08  Show Profile  Visit prozacrat's Homepage  Click to see prozacrat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Aside of being a little shakey and nervous at the first couple shows (at least that's how it seemed to me), the guy hasn't lost a damn thing. And yeah, it does sound like he's using a few more effects. I did notice the wah at least. and I agree with Passion, there. He's very humble when he plays. It seems like he has no clue as to how much of a god he really is. He seems paranoid, too. Eyes always darting. But always brilliant.

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The Passion Of El Diablo
= Cult of Ray =

258 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2004 :  13:56:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Prozac said it perfectly.
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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1342 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2004 :  14:09:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I didn't notice any chorus effects...the Marshall amps themselves do more to the sound than you think.
Joey Santiago is a master. Rather than putting on a stage presence that makes it just look like he's tearing up his guitar, he actually lets his playing do the talking. A discreet yet powerful performance.

I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb.
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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1186 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2004 :  14:16:13  Show Profile  Visit prozacrat's Homepage  Click to see prozacrat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I aim for eloquence. I discussed his sound at greater length here: http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5942


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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1342 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2004 :  14:24:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Prozacrat, I subscribe to your theory.
The Gospel according to prozacrat.

I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb.
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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1186 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2004 :  14:25:46  Show Profile  Visit prozacrat's Homepage  Click to see prozacrat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Excellent. One follower down. How many until I have a Cult of Joey?

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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1342 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2004 :  14:28:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Let's see...
Two's company, three's a cult...three!

I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb.
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Havalina
- FB Fan -

23 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2004 :  15:06:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"His shy, unassuming stage demeanor is refreshing"
"It seems like he has no clue as to how much of a god he really is."

Yeah, thats the impression I was getting at the mpls show as well. He had the same sort of stage presence when I saw him on Frank's first solo tour. It was like he was almost embarrassed when Frank introduced him and all of First Avenue roared their approval.
It was great to see/hear him again.
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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1186 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2004 :  15:20:26  Show Profile  Visit prozacrat's Homepage  Click to see prozacrat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Thanks again for making sure I saw them in Minneapolis, Havalina. You're more than welcome to join the Cult of Joey, too!

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One_Angry_Dwarf
- FB Fan -

57 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2004 :  15:44:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would gladly join the Cult Of Joey. He always was the Pixies secret weapon. Now that they're touring again, maybe more people will notice. Really though, all the evidence you need is found in Havelina.
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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1186 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2004 :  17:22:10  Show Profile  Visit prozacrat's Homepage  Click to see prozacrat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
And the revamping of In Heaven proves that he's still got the magic touch. I'd love to hear what else he could be adding to Pixies songs. One Angry Dwarf, consider yourself in. That puts us at:

prozacrat
The Calistanian
One Angry Dwarf

There's three. I think this could be a wonderful little cult. And I'll see if I can write a more fleshed-out version of the Gospel according to Prozac Rat. I'll have to wait until I'm healed though. There's so much more to Joey than meets the eye.

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The Passion Of El Diablo
= Cult of Ray =

258 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2004 :  17:25:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Where I am on the list of cult members?
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2004 :  17:34:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Joey has been my fave gutair player for ever. My favorite moment was at the 4/13 show when Frank said, "Rock me Joe." I went totally crazy!!! Was thinking I have always wanted to see this in person...he solo was so awesome!!!
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jussssss
- FB Fan -

Australia
11 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2004 :  17:35:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
judging from the sounds on this tour and the photos of joeys set up ,
there is no wah , its more like a phaser , if hes using all boss pedals (which it looks like..i dont have a close up) then his green pedal is a phase shifter. silver should be digital delay ie: start of #13 baby solo , i dont think he uses a DS-2 cuz theyre not yellow enuf , so maybe an SD-1 , also he has a red one , which now appears to be an MD2? didnt they used to be XT-2?
and all mixed in with feedback and marshalls
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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1186 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2004 :  17:47:58  Show Profile  Visit prozacrat's Homepage  Click to see prozacrat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
In response to the last three posts, Passion, I wasn't sure if you wanted on board or not. You hadn't posted after the subject was brought up and I didn't just want to start adding names without people actually asking to be on board. It'd be kind of like how the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is archiving names of dead people and baptizing them by proxy into the Morman faith. It wouldn't be fair. But it sounds like you do want on board, so welcome Brother Passion to the Cult of Joey. And Daisy Girl, I always found myself frowning a bit at FB&TC shows when they'd play Monkey and Frank would say "Rock me, Joe," and Joey wouldn't be there. I was too happy to see Frank say that and have Joey fulfill Frank's request. And thanks jussssss for the info on the pedals. I've been wondering what he has been using and wanting to try incorporating a pedal or two of his into my setup. Somebody should try taking a picture of just his pedals at a show soon so we can get an even more definitive and comprehensive roll call of what he uses, though I'm pleased to read what you submitted. Sidebar: should I start a thread in the Pixies general chat regarding the Cult of Joey? It sounds like plenty would want to join. We could refer to eachother as Brother and Sister in the thread and generally discuss the marvel that is Joey. Thoughts? Blessings?

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klikger
= Cult of Ray =

693 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2004 :  17:55:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That part of the song in Minneapolis was probably my favorite part of the whole show. Joey is great.
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jussssss
- FB Fan -

Australia
11 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2004 :  18:25:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
oh yeh, what joey does on in heaven is god sent , it really makes the song , and kim of course..im loving the revamped version
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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1186 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2004 :  18:45:47  Show Profile  Visit prozacrat's Homepage  Click to see prozacrat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Okay. Cult of Joey officially at four:

prozacrat
The Calistanian
One Angry Dwarf
The Passion Of El Diablo



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The Passion Of El Diablo
= Cult of Ray =

258 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2004 :  18:58:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Prozac,
I'm in, at least till I start my own competing spin-off cult.
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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1186 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2004 :  19:01:16  Show Profile  Visit prozacrat's Homepage  Click to see prozacrat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Naturally. Should I start another thread and leave this one for discussion on his performance during this tour, which I guess it was originally about before we got sidetracked on his divinity?

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Havalina
- FB Fan -

23 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2004 :  20:33:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'll join as well.
I was re-converted on 4/13.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6213 Posts

Posted - 04/20/2004 :  03:31:36  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jussssss

judging from the sounds on this tour and the photos of joeys set up ,
there is no wah , its more like a phaser , if hes using all boss pedals (which it looks like..i dont have a close up) then his green pedal is a phase shifter. silver should be digital delay ie: start of #13 baby solo , i dont think he uses a DS-2 cuz theyre not yellow enuf , so maybe an SD-1 , also he has a red one , which now appears to be an MD2? didnt they used to be XT-2?
and all mixed in with feedback and marshalls



ok, thanks, but there are some sounds that he didn't use before right?



"I joined the Cult of Frank/Nobody wanted to join my Culf"
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The Passion Of El Diablo
= Cult of Ray =

258 Posts

Posted - 04/20/2004 :  14:46:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What about a Cult of Passion?
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ShaunWestphal
- FB Fan -

221 Posts

Posted - 04/20/2004 :  14:52:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If Passion's in, I'm in.



Wherever Passion goes, I will follow...
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The Passion Of El Diablo
= Cult of Ray =

258 Posts

Posted - 04/20/2004 :  14:54:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ShaunWestphal,
Please don't join the Cult of Passion. I don't want to ruin my good name on the board.
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TheCroutonFuton
- Mr. Setlists -

USA
1728 Posts

Posted - 04/20/2004 :  14:55:01  Show Profile  Visit TheCroutonFuton's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'll join the Cult! The sound of God headbanding is indeed a glorious sound...
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The Passion Of El Diablo
= Cult of Ray =

258 Posts

Posted - 04/20/2004 :  14:56:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Crouton,
Which cult? Joey's? Mine? Both?
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ShaunWestphal
- FB Fan -

221 Posts

Posted - 04/20/2004 :  14:58:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Passion, all I give you is support, and this is the way you treat me? BTW I was talking about the cult of Joey. Cult of Passion? Wouldn't be bothered...

Wherever Passion goes, I will follow...
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The Passion Of El Diablo
= Cult of Ray =

258 Posts

Posted - 04/20/2004 :  15:10:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You already are a one-man Passion cult.
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ShaunWestphal
- FB Fan -

221 Posts

Posted - 04/20/2004 :  15:11:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm gonna go out on a limb and take that as a compliment. Thank you Passion.

Wherever Passion goes, I will follow...
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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1186 Posts

Posted - 04/20/2004 :  15:24:04  Show Profile  Visit prozacrat's Homepage  Click to see prozacrat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hey, looks like more are on board now. ShaunWestphal, I'll take your submissive "If Passion's in, I'm in" as your request to join. CroutonFuton, I assume you're referring to the Cult of Joey since you mentioned the sound of God headbanging. I think I'll start a new thread in the general Pixies discussion area.

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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1186 Posts

Posted - 04/20/2004 :  15:24:43  Show Profile  Visit prozacrat's Homepage  Click to see prozacrat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Oh, and Havalina too!

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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 04/20/2004 :  15:27:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Prozacrat... I'm confused... per the definition of cult, below which type of cult would I be joining???

cult.
cult ( P ) Pronunciation Key (klt)
n.

A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.
The followers of such a religion or sect.
A system or community of religious worship and ritual.
The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious ceremony and ritual.
A usually nonscientific method or regimen claimed by its originator to have exclusive or exceptional power in curing a particular disease.

Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing.
The object of such devotion.
An exclusive group of persons sharing an esoteric, usually artistic or intellectual interest.

Also can I join the cults of Frank, Kim, Joey AND David...or is it just the cult of the Pixies... please help I am so confused!
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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1186 Posts

Posted - 04/20/2004 :  15:42:50  Show Profile  Visit prozacrat's Homepage  Click to see prozacrat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Daisy Girl, I am here to help, in an authoritarian, charismatic sort of way. More of this will be explained when I begin a new thread (when I get around to it. I'm currently both busy and gimpy). But in response to your last question, I believe the term "Cult of Frank" has already been thrown around, and is also the name of one of our wonderful moderators. I won't try to claim anything pertaining to that. And I believe that in one way or another, we're all already members of the cult of the Pixies. It hasn't been too terribly defined, but you know who you are if you're part of it. Hell, if you have a dozen posts on this forum, you're a member whether you like/admit it or not. I would be apprehensive about a cult of Kim or David. Not that they don't deserve one, but their respective personalities and characters I don't believe lend themselves to make them the center of a cult. I think they scream CLUB. I'm only interested, at this point in time, in developing a cult of Joey. The purposes and intentions (completely harmless, yet severly devotional) will be explained in this impending thread I keep saying I'll start. I don't know if this answers any of your questions.

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