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Amber X
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 Posted - 02/29/2004 : 13:23:47
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The trademark J. Santiago string-bending shriek is something I've tried to replicate many times but never succeeded. Is it something to do with two strings an octave apart? You know what I mean - 'Cecilia Ann' is the utmost example. EEEeEEEeEEEeEEEeEEE might be a good way of notating it.
PS Rock me Joe!
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TheCroutonFuton
- Mr. Setlists -
USA
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Posted - 02/29/2004 : 13:31:47
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This has been discussed many times, hehe, but it's where you play a note on the B string and bend the G string so that the notes are the exact same. It shrieks and spirals...amazing sound. Also: be sure to use lots of reverb and take advantage of feedback. What he does is keeps the volume knob on his Les Paul in the middle so that there's no feedback. Then when he plays a note and wants it to shriek and add sustain he just turns up the volume which causes feedback (since the amp is so loud). It rocks!
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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1186 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2004 : 16:56:02
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The Crouton Futon has it pretty close there. I've seen him use all the above mentioned techniques, but one thing that I think helps with his awesome sound in addition to string-bending and knob-turning is the fact that he is a supernatural deity who descended upon the underserving planet Earth from the stars above with but one purpose: to rock the guitar like no creature has ever rocked a guitar before. We all know that on the 8th day God created Frank Black, but it is only slightly less known that on the 9th through the 14th days He created Frank's ultimate musical companion Joseph Alberto Santiago. And since this was millions of years ago, Joey had spent all that time absorbing all the "rockin juice" from the universe and honing his guitar skills until he would come to Earth in the mid 1980's to say he liked David Bowie and wanted to be in a band with one Charles Thompson. This was, of course, not his first visit to Earth. On a crisp autumn evening in 1914 he visited Chicago and seduced Mrs. Evelyn Polfuss. She became pregnant with Joey's seed, though her husband George would think otherwise. Joey said to her "Lo, I have given you my seed. A child shall gestate within thy womb, and ye shall name it Lester William. He will build me a guitar. Flip a coin and lay in bed. Now there's a long good bye." And with a wink of light Joey had returned to the heavens to continue accruing rockin juice for several more years. On June 9th, 1915, Lester William was born to George and Evelyn Polfuss. He would later change his name to Les Paul and create Joey Santiago's primary external organ, the Les Paul guitar. So that sound that Joey makes when he's wailin' on the guitar is a combination of him bending a string to match another note and God headbanging. Or at least that's how I THINK he does it.
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tigana
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Posted - 03/06/2004 : 17:30:32
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thecomeons
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Posted - 03/07/2004 : 07:26:23
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although i have seen video footage that shows the contrary, i believe that joey's sound is primarily the use of les paul guitars and marshall amps.
the unison-bends that joey uses aren't always perfect. by having them "off" a little it makes the sound a little fuller if you know what i mean. i remember reading an interview (it was a british guitar magazine, i can't remember the name), around the time of trompe i think, and he said that on songs were both of the high strings were tuned to "b" that it sounds fuller if you don't tune them to exactly the same pitch.
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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1186 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2004 : 23:46:33
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I think the term is dissonance (sp?). It's like when you tune the two top strings on a 12 string guitar (or four top strings, I guess) you don't want the two E strings perfectly in tune with each other. Same with the B strings.
I also think that it's what Ween would refer to as an Awesome Sound.
It's what I would refer to as a divine wind.
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ana
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Sweden
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Posted - 03/10/2004 : 02:50:21
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noway you stupid! he did, ofcourse, play with his teeth . mmhm
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The Champ
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
736 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2004 : 06:00:07
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Douglas
= Cult of Ray =
Sweden
308 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2004 : 08:13:43
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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1186 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2004 : 15:57:03
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I stand by my claim firmly.
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John Dark
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 03/17/2004 : 08:51:54
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Originally posted by Douglas
^ right. But he switched to Marshall later.
I remember reading something recently about JS' gear and it mentioned that he used a Pearce guitar amp for awhile (in the later years I think).
Other things mentioned were his guitar of choice - Gibson goldtop Les Paul - GHS Boomers for strings and a Marshall Guv'nor distortion pedal (Boss DS-1 also). |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 03/18/2004 : 10:08:20
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Yeah, I was going through some old guitar mags yeterday and I say the Pearce mentioned(In relation to Joey-dang! had to edit again! ). As well as the Goldtop, I think Joe Santiago also used Strats/Teles....actually, the lead stuff sounds more Fenderish on 'Trompe' to my ears. |
Edited by - Carl on 03/18/2004 10:09:39 |
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How did Joey get that wailing guitar sound?
