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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
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Posted - 03/29/2004 :  11:19:30  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Has anybody noticed this? All the new music I listen to seems to be of the very subdued, maybe singer-songwriter, slightly country-ish ilk.
Records I've been listening to recently:
Damien Rice - 'O' (just got this, seems very good)
Ryan Adams - Heartbreaker
Grant Lee Phillips - Mobilize
Ella Guru - Three Songs From Liverpool
Neil Young - Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere, and Harvest

Also add to the equation the new Nick Drake compilation in the summer (with newly discovered song), and the rise of jazz-lite such as Norah Jones et al (not necessarily a good thing).
Even The Man is getting in on the act (cf. Coastline?)...


I've not completely eschewed The Rock, but my current leanings are in this direction. Any one else?


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offerw
* Dog in the Sand *

South Africa
1264 Posts

Posted - 03/29/2004 :  12:06:14  Show Profile  Click to see offerw's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Still nothing more exciting than a great loud song but yep I also have turned to lots of quiet stuff recently. Damien Rice is good, I think TomMcRae is good (no one else agrees), Come Pick Me Up on Heartbraker is one of my current favorite songs, Josh Rouse's Under Cold Blue Stars is amazing realy, Grandaddy, My Morning Jacket (they're kind of quiet) and Young's Harvest and After The Goldrush are absolute classics. SMOG! Also quiet and I'm obsessed by Knock,Knock,Knock. I'm going to watch out for Grant Lee Phillips because I loved the first Grant Lee Buffalo album.

I love the quiet stuff.

wilhelm
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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1222 Posts

Posted - 03/29/2004 :  12:44:48  Show Profile  Visit misleadtheworld's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I agree. The last three records I've bought have been quite tame, but still very good.


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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
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Posted - 03/29/2004 :  13:02:53  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
The new fast is going slow. The new high is living low.



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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/29/2004 :  13:14:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
RAAAAAAAAAAAAWK!!!

Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!!
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
8201 Posts

Posted - 03/29/2004 :  13:28:34  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

RAAAAAAAAAAAAWK!!!

Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!!


An unusually intellectual interjection from this man...

I had a quick listen to the new Grant Lee Phillips album a while back, before I'd heard Mobilize, and it sounds good. If you haven't heard Mobilize, I'd definitely recommend it, the songs are simply amazing and Phillips' voice is gorgeous.
Heartbreaker is definitely a fantastic album as well - I didn't want to like Ryan Adams (and to be fair I've not listened to a lot of his other stuff), but this album is great.

Course, the other sign is the resurgence over the last few years of Johnny Cash's quiet side - thats some seriously powerful music.


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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/29/2004 :  13:38:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWK!!!


Just kidding, I appreciate good music, wether it be heavy or mellow. That said I would choose electric over acoustic any day. As long as a band has a good pop sensibility, that is my only demand.

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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1973 Posts

Posted - 03/29/2004 :  14:12:33  Show Profile  Visit Adnan_le_Terrible's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Has anybody noticed this? The cheese I seem to be eating these days is French.

The list of different sorts of cheese I like :
- Camembert (Président)
- Roquefort (all sorts of roquefort)
- Chèvre (Chavrou)
- Pyrénéen

I still eat Edam, but my current leanings are in this direction. Anyone else?

In the next episode, I will tell you which orange juice I'm currently drinking.



Adrian :In meaven, everything is fine
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
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Posted - 03/29/2004 :  14:15:08  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Adnan_le_Terrible

Has anybody noticed this? The cheese I seem to be eating these days is French.

The list of different sorts of cheese I like :
- Camembert (Président)
- Roquefort (all sorts of roquefort)
- Chèvre (Chavrou)
- Pyrénéen

I still eat Edam, but my current leanings are in this direction. Anyone else?

In the next episode, I will tell you which orange juice I'm currently drinking.



Adrian :In meaven, everything is fine

Apparently 1000 posts isn't enough.


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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1973 Posts

Posted - 03/29/2004 :  14:18:55  Show Profile  Visit Adnan_le_Terrible's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Currently I'm drinking Tropicana Multivitamines. I just love the vitamines. It's healthy. Not as healthy as the Irish pubs where you're not allowed to smoke, but very healthy though.

My current leanings are in this direction. Anyone else?



Adrian :In meaven, everything is fine
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~

Ireland
1750 Posts

Posted - 03/29/2004 :  14:39:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
its funny cos now in ireland everyone is standing outside of workplaces smoking and freezing their asses off. actually, today was pretty warm so i'm bullshitting.
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1718 Posts

Posted - 03/30/2004 :  00:41:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cheeseman:
if you're afraid you've lost contact with your Inner Punk Rock Brat,
50 Foot Wave will reconnect you.

On the other hand, if you really want to pursue your explorations of the quiet and introspective, and if you haven't heard that one yet, I can't recommend Kristin Hersh's 2003 album The Grotto strongly enough.

Yes, I am quite single-minded.

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Everything I say to you is gonna come out wrong anyway
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <

New Zealand
3426 Posts

Posted - 03/30/2004 :  01:22:34  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jediroller
Yes, I am quite single-minded.



but has impeccable taste...


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offerw
* Dog in the Sand *

South Africa
1264 Posts

Posted - 03/30/2004 :  06:54:08  Show Profile  Click to see offerw's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cheeseman1000

Heartbreaker is definitely a fantastic album as well - I didn't want to like Ryan Adams (and to be fair I've not listened to a lot of his other stuff), but this album is great.

Course, the other sign is the resurgence over the last few years of Johnny Cash's quiet side - thats some seriously powerful music.


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You're right about not wanting to like Ryan Adams, if you listen to his other albums you'll see there is not much there.

Try Rufus Wainwright, now there is a talented young American!

wilhelm
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 03/30/2004 :  07:04:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cheeseman1000

Has anybody noticed this? All the new music I listen to seems to be of the very subdued, maybe singer-songwriter, slightly country-ish ilk.
Records I've been listening to recently:
Damien Rice - 'O' (just got this, seems very good)
Ryan Adams - Heartbreaker
Grant Lee Phillips - Mobilize
Ella Guru - Three Songs From Liverpool
Neil Young - Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere, and Harvest

Also add to the equation the new Nick Drake compilation in the summer (with newly discovered song), and the rise of jazz-lite such as Norah Jones et al (not necessarily a good thing).
Even The Man is getting in on the act (cf. Coastline?)...


I've not completely eschewed The Rock, but my current leanings are in this direction. Any one else?


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I was listening to Drake the other day....I'm not really a fan, but a friend was playing it-I like 'Poor Boy' and 'The Time Of No Reply'. Hav'nt heard Lee Phillips solo stuff-Grant Lee Buffallo had some great songs. 'Everybody Knows' is a classic N.Young.

CARL.

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Broken Face
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USA
5155 Posts

Posted - 03/30/2004 :  08:11:39  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage  Reply with Quote
totally been in a "quiet" phase, anchored by Iron and Wine and Sufjan Stevens

-brian


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bedrock_barney
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
871 Posts

Posted - 03/30/2004 :  08:29:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I pretty much stay in an eclectic mood all the time. On the quiet side I've been enjoying the new album by Zero 7, and also Gorky's Zygotic Mynci get a regular play.

I'm just as inclined to listen to Tomahawk, Slayer or Killing Joke though.


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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
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Posted - 03/30/2004 :  09:04:50  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Zero 7? Is one Air not enough for you?
I jest, of course.

Rufus Wainright... you'll probably hate me for saying this, but he did the cover of Hallelujah for Shrek right?

Of course, I also forgot to mention Low: Things We Lost In The Fire is one of my absolute favourite albums.


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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 03/30/2004 :  09:17:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I hate these chillout bands though!!!

They have no passion, no soul, it's just music for the Ikea generation.

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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 03/30/2004 :  09:21:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Adnan_le_Terrible

Has anybody noticed this? The cheese I seem to be eating these days is French.

The list of different sorts of cheese I like :
- Camembert (Président)
- Roquefort (all sorts of roquefort)
- Chèvre (Chavrou)
- Pyrénéen

I still eat Edam, but my current leanings are in this direction. Anyone else?

In the next episode, I will tell you which orange juice I'm currently drinking.



Adrian :In meaven, everything is fine



I prefer English. Not very adventurous when it comes to cheese I'm afraid. The foreign ones I have tried, I have not liked. I do like the look of Brie though.

Edam is like rubber.

Give me a double Gloucester, red Leicester or mature white Cheddar any day!!!

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offerw
* Dog in the Sand *

South Africa
1264 Posts

Posted - 03/30/2004 :  11:40:11  Show Profile  Click to see offerw's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cheeseman1000


Rufus Wainright... you'll probably hate me for saying this, but he did the cover of Hallelujah for Shrek right?




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The Leonard Cohen song? Covered for the SHREK soundtrack? Well I don't know if he's done that but it sounds like an awful idea. Of course many greats have covered Hallelujah. But for Shrek!!! I'm stumped. Go listen to two Rufus Wainwright songs: Poses and Go Or Go Ahead, that should make up for it.

Like A Forest from the Low album is an incredible song. I've only got Things We Lost In The Fire though, anything else I should check out?

wilhelm
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VoVat
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USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 03/30/2004 :  12:54:22  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
I hate these chillout bands though!!!

They have no passion, no soul


Passion and soul don't necessarily increase with loudness, though. There are plenty of loud, noisy bands that don't seem to have much passion for what they're doing.

And yes, Rufus Wainwright really did cover "Hallelujah" for "Shrek," unfortunately. Still a good version of the song, though.




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Cheeseman1000
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Iceland
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Posted - 03/30/2004 :  13:03:53  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Secret Name is another good Low album, in a similar vein but different enough to make it worth getting. If you like Low you might like Ella Guru, who I've been recommending left right and centre. Very quiet and subtle, but with a country-ish tinge.
Check out www.bananarecordings.com.

Benji, you get the CD yet? Wotcha think?


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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/30/2004 :  14:20:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by VoVat

quote:
I hate these chillout bands though!!!

They have no passion, no soul


Passion and soul don't necessarily increase with loudness, though. There are plenty of loud, noisy bands that don't seem to have much passion for what they're doing.

And yes, Rufus Wainwright really did cover "Hallelujah" for "Shrek," unfortunately. Still a good version of the song, though.




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WOAH! No I think you misunderstand me. I am refering to particular bands. Chillout bands, not all chilled-out bands. You know stuff like Zero7 or Aqualung. I just don't see how people can write music like this and think "Yeah I said everything I wanted to say with that record". And I don't just mean saying what you want to say through lyrics, but music as well. It's like all they had to say was "Zzzzzzzzzzzzz".

I just don't see the passion in this music. Their are loads of other bands like this but I don't pay attention to their names/don't find out their names.

You can pretty much pigeon-hole most of the people who listen to this kind of music. Like I said, music for the Ikea generation.

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Cheeseman1000
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Iceland
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Posted - 03/30/2004 :  14:23:08  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Like the people who listen to David Gray, Dido et al - coffee table music, I call it.
Still, better than the nu-jazz, the middle-aged easy-listening revival. 10 groats to whoever brings me Jamie Cullum's head on a stick.


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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/30/2004 :  14:28:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Shake my hand Cheeseboard, ShakeyShake my hand!!!

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interloper
= Cult of Ray =

440 Posts

Posted - 03/30/2004 :  15:37:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yep, men are the new women as well.

Hand held shower nozzles are the demon enemy of the patriarch and should be destroyed.
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
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Posted - 03/30/2004 :  15:47:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay that was funny interloper :)
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
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Posted - 03/30/2004 :  16:23:44  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage  Reply with Quote
They're conveying moods rather than conveying emotion or meaning. It's a good new outlet for music. I really dig Air...a guy at work told me about Zero 7 (he generally has questionable taste in music but I enjoyed the bit I heard). Grandaddy I suppose could be lumped into this category...with some of their music.


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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
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Posted - 03/30/2004 :  16:36:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by El Barto

They're conveying moods rather than conveying emotion or meaning. It's a good new outlet for music. I really dig Air...a guy at work told me about Zero 7 (he generally has questionable taste in music but I enjoyed the bit I heard). Grandaddy I suppose could be lumped into this category...with some of their music.


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aren't moods emotion? i don't really see the difference here. i don't really think it's new either.

Grandaddy and AIR are definitely on the more "mellow" side, but i would never insult them by comparing them to Dido or David Grey.

AIR is one of my new favorite bands. Grandaddy fucking rocks (in addition to being very atmospheric and spacey).
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"

USA
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Posted - 03/30/2004 :  16:49:51  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I don't really have anything to add to this topic, I just love the title. 40 is the new 30! Brunette is the new blonde! Ugly is the new pretty! Fat is the new thin!

I could go on and on. I'll spare you.
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =

Canada
3581 Posts

Posted - 03/30/2004 :  21:26:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jim Guthrie's "Now, More Than Ever" is a really beautiful record in this vain. My second best pick of 2004, behind Franz Ferdinand. Where you are Jo, I love this record (FF), so phooey on you! But seriously, I recommend all you kids check out Jim Guthrie.
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <

New Zealand
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Posted - 03/31/2004 :  00:34:56  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
cheesy,
yes i got the cd last week.
i have only managed to listen to it a couple of times cause busy with ATP, but i was impressed with it, and i will definitely listen to it many times further.
i've also been busy listening to the new Blonde Redhead cd, and the newest Neko Case one, which interestingly, will both fit very snuggly into this thread.

The Blonde redhead cd is absolutely brilliant, and i think it'll be very tricky for any cd to beat it for the record of the year imo.

also, worth a mention to Cat Power - very melancholic, and fantastic.
am actually off to see her live tonight....hopefully she'll put on a good show.....her one at ATP was ruined by a very annoyingly chatty audience.


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Cheeseman1000
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Iceland
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Posted - 03/31/2004 :  09:03:08  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Noisy audiences make me very very angry in this context... you were at Silver Mt Zion, you heard me venting my spleen after right?
Same thing at M83, until they were blown away by the general magnificence of it!


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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/31/2004 :  13:26:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No I like Air.

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VoVat
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USA
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Posted - 03/31/2004 :  15:10:13  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Still, better than the nu-jazz, the middle-aged easy-listening revival.


I'll never understand why they call that kind of stuff "easy listening," when it's so difficult to listen to it for extended periods of time.

Maybe difficult is the new easy...



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