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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
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 Posted - 03/29/2004 : 07:34:05
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I thought it safe to post this since this isn't iknowmoreaboutmusicthanyou.com, even if they are a subsidiary site on frankblack.net. Nothing new, even speculation on the Breeders' show being a secret Pixies show has been discussed to death, but for the sake of completeness, I present:
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/news/04-03/29.shtml#story2
Pixies Confirm Euro-Tour, Breeders Ca$h In
Tanya Donelly seriously regretting solo career. Again.
Brian Howe reports:
Dude. Have you heard? The Pixies are getting back together! What?! You say you already know that? That we run a Pixies headliner virtually every day now? That you just ooh'd and ahh'd over our story about Frank Black nearly buying a Snickers in a Circle K, but changing his mind at the last minute and leaving a line of disgruntled shoppers tapping their toes impatiently while he dug through the discount bin looking for a Mounds Bar instead, and are kind of nonplused to find yet another Pixies story today? That Pitchfork tends to develop unhealthy fixations that at least one rogue has described as the "Pixies Social Scene Syndrome?" Well, fie on you. We give the people what they want, and they want more Pixies. A million angry children refuse to be wrong.
According to pixiesmusic.com, the band everyone loves loving to love has added additional dates to the European tour on which we reported earlier this month. Not that they'll help you much, since tickets to these events seem to be selling out five minutes before they go on sale. I blame those filthy time-travelers. You can find a link to the previously reported dates at the foot of this story, and you can find the new ones (and confirmed/slightly altered versions of the old ones where applicable) right 'cheer:
05-26 Reykjavik, Iceland - Kaplakrika
06-17 Hultsfred, Sweden - Hultsfred Festival
06-19 Bologna, Italy - Heineken Jammin' Festival
06-20 Ljubljana, Slovenia - Krizanke Monastery
06-21 Athens, Greece - Rockwave
06-25 Scheessel, Germany - Hurricane Festival
06-26 Neuhausen, Germany - Southside Festival
06-29 Berlin, Germany - Wuhlheide
07-02 Roskilde, Denmark - Roskilde Festival
07-04 Werchter, Belgium - Werchter Festival
08-22 Chelmsford, England - V Festival
09-06 Seattle, Washington - Bumbershoot
Before those wretched few of you who spend your time scouring Pitchfork for errors start penning weirdly self-satisfied emails (since yeah, you must know a lot more about music and writing than we do if you caught that comma splice), let me go ahead and point out that we are quite aware Seattle, Washington is not a European domain. We thought you'd want to know about it anyway. Just be thankful we didn't parlay that Bumbershoot date into another headline.
For those of you who would like to see Pixies or something Pixies-related but did not buy your tickets five minutes before they went on sale and also lack time-travel capability, might we suggest rocking over to California... like, right now, and catching The Breeders at any of the following dates with Lucero. I'd like to suggest that the April Fool's Day show is actually a front, and that the lucky Breeders fans that show up will be BLOWN AWAY BY A MAGNIFICENT AND UTTERLY UNEXPECTED PIXIES PERFORMANCE! Please note that there is absolutely no basis for this wild speculation, save that I want to see if it will spread through the message boards like wildfire, propagated by those so eager to be the first to post the news on Iknowmoreaboutmusicthanyou.com, or wherever it is you people post these things, that they failed to make it to this mitigating sentence. Because those people deserve whatever they get. Remember: Only you can prevent Internet arson.
03-30 West Hollywood, CA - The Troubadour
03-31 Solana Beach, CA - Belly Up Tavern
04-01 Los Angeles, CA - Spaceland of Dreams
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
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Posted - 03/29/2004 : 17:18:58
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*gurgle*
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porkbone1
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 03/30/2004 : 12:10:22
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I had a very Monty Python moment just now. I forgot the URL of the Pitchfork website, so I tried pitchfork.com, then pitchfork.org. I stumbled upon this website:
http://www.pitchfork.org/llamas.html
There is something funny about this. I'm not sure why.
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soundofataris
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 03/30/2004 : 14:07:56
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isn't pixiesmusic.com the greatest site for exclusive pixies news ever?
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 03/30/2004 : 14:15:34
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Brian Howe is an angry man apparently. [cue shouty distorty voice] "He's got something against us!", or forums at least. Still, isn't the general rule that pitchfork is about as cool and accurate as NME?
Also, call me naive, but there's actually no mention of Tanya Donelly in the article itself...
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
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Posted - 03/30/2004 : 18:04:05
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Originally posted by porkbone1
I had a very Monty Python moment just now. I forgot the URL of the Pitchfork website, so I tried pitchfork.com, then pitchfork.org. I stumbled upon this website:
http://www.pitchfork.org/llamas.html
There is something funny about this. I'm not sure why.
The joke has come upon me
Hahahhahaahhahah!
funny llamas! Pitchfork should make their logo a llama. I might take them more seriously.
If it is a Miracle, any sort of evidence will answer, but if it is a Fact, proof is necessary. -Samuel Clemens |
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
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Posted - 03/31/2004 : 08:07:02
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Jefrey
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 03/31/2004 : 13:07:02
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Brian is apparently bitter that he couldn't get tickets and embarrassed that he likes a bnad that other people like while at the same time being employed by Pitchforkmedia.
The key to being credible at Pitchfork, however, is never hinting, or acknowledging that you know that people think you are a pompous, condescending snob. It's like a magician reveaing his secrets!
He just may get kicked out of the club for this.... |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
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Posted - 03/31/2004 : 14:20:39
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Pitchfork is like the guy who thinks he's cool and elite because he listens to elite indie music, but it turns out he just basicly copied the record collection of his roommate, who is actually cool and elite himself but is so cool and elite that he doesn't have to point it out.
In other words, Pitchfork sucks.
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
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Posted - 03/31/2004 : 23:22:48
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Damnit Jim - they're never gonna refer to us now! =P
(I can't believe i haven't said that before now! Damnit Jim!! hahhhahaha)
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DeBased
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Posted - 04/01/2004 : 22:53:03
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What the hell is,"Pixies Social Scene Syndrome"? Who uses the word,"parlay"? Since when does pixiesmusic.com update?
the method...of stop tap spin, no talkin'... |
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madtempest
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Posted - 04/02/2004 : 06:52:22
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Originally posted by soundofataris
isn't pixiesmusic.com the greatest site for exclusive pixies news ever?
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
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Posted - 04/02/2004 : 12:21:04
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Yeah, when you assume..you...ahh..there is no 'i' in assume..heh
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2004 : 12:39:26
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I'm lost, but pixiesmusic does a pretty good job of keeping up to date. They were the ones who brought the Minneapolis show to our attention in time that people here could get tickets. We like 'em.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2004 : 12:27:25
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Well, I suppose being made fun of is almost like getting credit...
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/news/04-04/06.shtml
Pixies Announce U.S. Fall Tour Dates
Readers now uncleverly referring to us as Pixfork
[Breaking News; Updated: April 6th, 2:45pm CST]
Ryan Schreiber reports:
In what seems to be an endless parade of perfectly spaced Pixies press releases, the band has finally announced their second wave of North American tour dates, to take place this fall, after the band returns from a summer-long whirlwind European tour that will see them making rounds at virtually every festival imaginable. Seven shows have been announced so far, with the tour's first show taking place September 4th at Bend, Oregon's Les Schwab Amphitheatre. They've also planned performances in Seattle, Austin, Atlanta, Minneapolis (again), Chicago, and Toronto. The new dates:
09-04 Bend, OR - Les Schwab Amphitheatre
09-06 Seattle, WA - Bumbershoot Festival
09-18 Austin, TX - Austin City Limits
10-14 Atlanta, GA - Fox Theatre
11-11 Minneapolis, MN - Wilkins Auditorium
11-13 Chicago, IL Aragon Ballroom
11-24 Toronto, ON - Arrow Hall
.: Pitchfork Review: Pixies: Pixies
.: Pitchfork Review: Pixies: Complete B-Sides
.: Pitchfork Review: Pixies: Death to the Pixies
.: Pixies: http://www.pixiesmusic.com
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
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Posted - 04/07/2004 : 12:40:35
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That's great Dean - they picked up on your Pixfork title. =)
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 04/08/2004 : 12:54:44
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yeah, that is pretty cool, Dean. You can now list yourself in the long but prestigious list of people who have "coined the phrase (fill in the blank)"
Next: I'm going to start a thread that refers to them as "Shitfork"
Let's see if they pick up on that....then I can be semi-famous like Dean. (; |
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
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Posted - 04/08/2004 : 16:08:51
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Oh man. You're gonna get us in trouble now!
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brianhowe
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Posted - 05/06/2004 : 16:29:56
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Hi Pixies people, this is Brian from Pitchforkmedia. As you maybe can tell from my story which is under discussion, I'm not usually one for message boards. But I'm at work, I'm bored, I thought I'd register and weigh in on some of the comments made here, since you all seem like normal and reasonable people, unlike many you find on indie message boards, which inspire my ire.
To answer DeBased's questions, 1. "Pixies Social Scene Syndrome" is something I made up to good-naturedly make fun of ourselves (i.e. Pitchfork) for the vast amount of coverage we give to certain bands, like Pixies and Broken Social Scene. 2. I use the word "parlay," as well as many other words that mean things I need to express. 3. I don't know when or since when pixiesmusic.com updates. You'll have to ask them.
To address El Barto's incisive commentary, I have to say I don't understand how any music is "elite," particularly indie music, which is much more open to participation by fans and amateur musicians than more well-known, mainstream music, which I assume must be the populist and non-elite music that El Barto alludes to. The music's out there Barto, anyone can listen to it, you don't have to be in any secret club. We just try to help sift through it all. As for the rest of your simile, like the roommate and stuff, I really don't even understand what you mean there. But your witty tagline that so uniquely skewers British hygeine implies a subtle and nuanced mind whose mechanations must elude me.
I'm not clear on how Jefrey understands the key to being credible at Pitchfork, as I'm pretty sure I've never seen his name on the masthead. Correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe I was just mad that I couldn't get tickets, although living on the east coast, I doubt I would have flown to California to see The Breeders anyway. As for not acknowledeging that we're snobs, we actually make fun of ourselves on that score quite often, and anyway, it's impossible to relay any but the most lukewarm of opinions on anything without people thinking you're being condescending. I don't presume to know anything about Jefrey, I think it's rather condescending of him to assume he knows anything about me. As for being embarassed about liking bands that other people listen to, my top ten last year included: Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Shins, The Strokes, freaking Stellastarr. So you tell me. It's not all obscure Terry Riley reissues over here, dog.
We will certainly consider changing our logo to a llama so that apl4aris might take us more seriously, for the demographic that chooses their reading material by its logo is just crucial.
Cheeseman 1000, I am not angry. I don't have anything against you or this forum, which seems like a pretty nice forum. I do have something against forums in general, which seem to often be places where sad, bitter people congregate to make the wildest, snarkiest and most unfounded allegations about things they couldn't possibly know about. These snarky, dissy, yes, even "elitist" sort of forums are the ones my digs were aimed at. Forums where people reasonably discuss things they like are just fine.
Well, this was fun! I usually ignore things I see written about Pitchfork or myself specifically on message boards, but I thought I would respond for once. Thanks for your time. Now if you'll excuse me, my roommate (he's so cool!) just got the new Animal Collective and I have to go and burn it so I can keep condescending to everyone. |
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
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Posted - 05/06/2004 : 16:42:19
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Thanks for popping by Brian, glad you're finding this Forum to be unlike a lot of the other MB's out there. I keep hearing about the Weezer one, but have yet to visit it...tho it's apparently quite dismal.
Watch that RIAA doesn't jump on your back for copying that CD tho..luckily that's legal in Canada. =)
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brianhowe
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Posted - 05/06/2004 : 17:06:42
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Thanks for the welcome Dave Noisy, much appreciated. While we're talking about it, let me give you an example of why I was taking the piss from message boards in that story. I just found this on some dude's blog:
"More Bullshit Journalism. Pitchfork covers the Sleepy Jackson tour, but not without wasting our time. Is that second paragraph really needed? Why is Brian Howe using a news section to prance around his "writing career"? Can we put these people in a barn and burn it to the ground... Ok, that was harsh. Maybe we should just line them up and Culkin them repeatedly. Keep your subjective opinions in your own asshole. No one wants to see your shit."
Wow. That was uncalled for. I made a joke about a band's press release (their PRESS RELEASE mind you, I said nothing bad about the band), and now this dude who I've never met wants to set me on fire. I hope this example will further elucidate my general (but not all-encompassing) disdain for blogs and MBs. The irony of someone decrying subjective opinions that no one wants to hear IN A BLOG is too glaring to believe. We may make snide jokes once in a while (some of our writers more often than others, granted), but never do we wish anyone bodily harm or lingering sickness.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
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Posted - 05/06/2004 : 17:39:33
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Yeah, welcome aboard Brian.
For the record I enjoy Pitchfork more-or-less daily, and I do find some of the snideness funny and some of it a little over the top. But I am a regular visitor. I'm sure you could say the same thing about this thread (I mean, come on, Apl wasn't seriously suggesting that you switch your logo to a llama... she knows Winamp would be after your asses in no time).
I'm sure you can understand that some people here might be a little apprehensive about trusting Pitchfork here, given that we're all obviously fans of Frank Black and that, aside from Dog In The Sand, which garnered a prestigious 7.8, not one of FB's solo albums has yet to be reviewed above a 7. Not one! Show Me Your Tears earned a 5.4 - seriously, go read that review!
I appreciate that this is subjective, and Pitchfork is hardly the only place to reference the Pixies almost as much as the album under review itself, but just as you wouldn't take advice from a friend who seems to have completely different musical taste, well... you see where this is going. I'm not saying this justifies barn burnings or even personally slagging you, just that it might be a factor in the dischord.
As I said, I enjoy Pitchfork, and despite our apparent disagreement on FB's solo material, I actually find that we agree quite a bit as well. I hope you look around outside this thread and enjoy yourself here too. I think we've got a pretty reasonable community and even work together to get things done and make the place better. If you're not convinced, by all means, check out the tribute albums that we have on our FTP site as free-for-download, created by members of this site (alright, this might be a shameless plug, sue me):
http://www.frankblack.net/tribute/
May you be safe from bodily harm and live eternally healthy! :) Welcome and enjoy your stay.
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brianhowe
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Posted - 05/06/2004 : 18:01:28
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Well thank you kindly Cult of Frank. Ya'll are real hospitable round these parts.
None of my comments were intended to convince anyone to like or dislike, agree or disagree with Pitchfork. That's completely up to the individual and I'm not out to change anyone's mind. My comments did not say, "Oh, Pitchfork's word is gospel and you should trust us blindly." My comments said, "Oh, you said I'm an elitist CD-burner who listens to unpopular bands for the sake of being cool and you don't even know me, I'd like to address that." Really, I was just bored and stumbled across this, thought it would be diverting to address these statements on a point by point basis. All in good fun, and anyway, reasonable debate is almost always a positive thing. Take care all. Nice site you got here.
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AshfordTucker
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Posted - 05/06/2004 : 19:21:55
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Brian Howe is one sick bitch. He beat up my cat.
One time, when my mom was in town, I was all like, "Hey Brian, my mom's in town."
Howe was like, "Yo, can I hit that?"
What a hater.
And I'd just like to say that Pitchfork's soooo wicked hella frightful cool. I'm ten kinds of retarded and they let me write for them. They make that third Matrix movie look like that second Matrix movie.
And to all you haters, '03 was the year of the dis. Frank Black's a fatty, and I don't go pointing it out to everybody. Good money says you're all fatties, too; but I'm not all, "Make me a sandwich, you big fat fatties."
I'm cool like Kelly Leak. Hitting .841 for the Bears. I got a Harley-Davidson. Does that turn you on? Harley-Davidson? |
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AshfordTucker
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Posted - 05/06/2004 : 20:01:17
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Originally posted by AshfordTucker
Brian Howe is one sick bitch. He beat up my cat.
One time, when my mom was in town, I was all like, "Hey Brian, my mom's in town."
Howe was like, "Yo, can I hit that?"
What a hater.
And I'd just like to say that Pitchfork's soooo wicked hella frightful cool. They make that third Matrix movie look like that second Matrix movie.
And to all you haters, '03 was the year of the dis. Frank Black's a fatty, and I don't go pointing it out to everybody. Good money says you're all fatties, too; but I'm not all, "Make me a sandwich, you big fat fatties."
I'm cool like Kelly Leak. Hitting .841 for the Bears. I got a Harley-Davidson. Does that turn you on? Harley-Davidson?
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 05/06/2004 : 21:40:43
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Originally posted by brianhowe
As for being embarassed about liking bands that other people listen to, my top ten last year included: Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Shins, The Strokes, freaking Stellastarr. So you tell me. It's not all obscure Terry Riley reissues over here, dog.
you shouldn't be embarassed about liking the Yeah Yeah Yeah's because other people like them, but because they suck. |
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rob mackey
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Posted - 05/06/2004 : 22:58:32
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Originally posted by floop
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Originally posted by brianhowe
As for being embarassed about liking bands that other people listen to, my top ten last year included: Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Shins, The Strokes, freaking Stellastarr. So you tell me. It's not all obscure Terry Riley reissues over here, dog.
you shouldn't be embarassed about liking the Yeah Yeah Yeah's because other people like them, but because they suck.
No, he should be embarassed about liking the Yeah Yeah Yeah's because Karen O is a FUCKING DOGGGGGGGGGGGGGG! |
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
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Posted - 05/07/2004 : 12:14:27
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Brian - methinks you should be honoured that your words have touched this individual enough that of all the things he could ramble on about, it was your writing. =)
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brianhowe
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Posted - 05/07/2004 : 16:47:17
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| Oh Ashford, I can't take you anywhere. So much for reasonable debate. Everyone, meet Asford and Rob. We were trolling the methadone clinics for new writers and we found Ashford, hired him because he's completely fucking insane and insulted us all so brutally and colorfully we were powerless against his charms. Rob, he likes to talk about how ugly Karen O is and see how pissed people get. If you take any one of Rob's Pitchfork stories and remove every fifth word, then reverse them, they spell out the secrets of the Illuminati. True story. |
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brianhowe
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Posted - 05/07/2004 : 16:51:13
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you shouldn't be embarassed about liking the Yeah Yeah Yeah's because other people like them, but because they suck.
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But floop, I like you, and judging from the pointlessness of that comment, it seems like you might suck. Why should I hold that against Yeah Yeah Yeahs? |
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brianhowe
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Posted - 05/07/2004 : 16:54:28
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Originally posted by Dave Noisy
Brian - methinks you should be honoured that your words have touched this individual enough that of all the things he could ramble on about, it was your writing. =)
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Agreed, Dave. I just skimmed it and am, as of now, not quite sure what he was talking about. Going to take a closer look and then respond. |
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Jefrey
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Posted - 05/07/2004 : 17:19:09
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Hell, I find PixFork hilarious, especially the overly condescending, snobby reviews.
Don't get me wrong Brian, I was just trying to be funny. Sadly, my attempts at humor are usually miserable failures. As are my attempts as snobbery. However, I may be on the fast track to condescension. There's hope for my Pitchfork masthead appearance yet!
PS - nobody believes that you spent this much time responding to posts because you were bored and happend to be skimming them. Haha! Take that. |
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floop
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Posted - 05/07/2004 : 17:38:11
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Originally posted by brianhowe
But floop, I like you, and judging from the pointlessness of that comment, it seems like you might suck. Why should I hold that against Yeah Yeah Yeahs?
that's a good point.
but the Yeah Yeah Yeah's still suck. |
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BLT
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Posted - 05/07/2004 : 19:08:26
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SpudBoy
= Cult of Ray =
Equatorial Guinea
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Posted - 05/07/2004 : 21:02:32
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Christ, if it wasn't for the inherent haughtiness engendered by the implied abstraction the internet provides we might not have the exploding population of Überweenies that stalk the aisles of Hot Topic and wear their ringers to Wal-Mart. Then where would we be? Who would generate the requisite Slack the rest of us need to consume in order to survive? It has to come from somewhere...
Also, to say Indie Rock as a cultural phenomenon does not contain an intense ratio of snobs to just fucking straight up people is ludicrous. Sure the music is out there, but actually go into a record store without the uniform and see how they treat you. Much like Atheism, the supposedly iconoclasic practicioners of this Cult of Indie consistently prove themselves to be the far superior fascists. Therefore, I think urinating in the Used bin is an appropriate signal of one's displeasure. I like to dress up in a cossack outfit with a little green bow thumbtacked to my forehead and go provide my own review when the clerks get snippy.
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brianhowe
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Posted - 05/09/2004 : 14:00:36
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Originally posted by LoganZ
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Originally posted by brianhowe
...it's impossible to relay any but the most lukewarm of opinions on anything without people thinking you're being condescending.
I stand behind what I said but I don't think I have it down cogently enough to sound like anything but babbling. Let me leave it at this: I think that the belief in the statement above by Pitchfork writers/etc is the root cause of the abuse being directed at them. And it's a damn shame.
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