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dslator
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 Posted - 03/14/2004 : 12:50:34
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I have this horrible feeling that the only reason the Pixies are reforming is financial.
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Douglas
= Cult of Ray =
Sweden
308 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2004 : 14:00:25
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| no. but we'll just have to cross our fingers and hope that they still know how to rock, and enjoy this miracalous chance to see the greatest band ever. |
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ShakeyShake
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/14/2004 : 14:40:19
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No I'm sure they reunited because they couldn't live with themselves any longer knowing they were depriving the world of a numero uno band
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cindy lou
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Posted - 03/14/2004 : 15:18:17
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| everything is financial. the reason they started a band was financial. and the "real reason" behind your post was financial. |
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A_Man_Called_Horse
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Posted - 03/14/2004 : 15:40:25
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Of course it's financial. Frank says so himself in the new issue of GQ: "There's a lot of mystery around the band, so we've been getting really high offers," Black's quoted as saying. "I could use the money right now. I know the other guys could use the money. We could all use an influx of cash in our lives. And let's face it: Those European festivals, they pay a lot."
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mobster
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Posted - 03/14/2004 : 15:54:24
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And to think rock and roll was about the music. :(
How'm I funny? |
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irishpixie
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Posted - 03/14/2004 : 16:22:11
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| who cares what the reason is they are back and they will record new songs and make a shit load of cash |
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porkbone1
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 03/14/2004 : 16:59:09
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I was disappointed by this quote also...but I responded to this question in the thread about the GQ article. I guess we can look at it a couple of ways:
1. They got back together for the money, but after they started playing they kissed and made up -- now they are back with a vengence!
2. They will still kick ass, and plenty of bands are only in it for the money! They never REALLY got along that well anyway, so what difference is there now?
Where I get concerned is, I would like to see new Pixies music, and maybe a positive influence on this crappy music scene we find ourselves in now -- not just a "reunited for an influx of cash" tour. If this is all just financial, then the chances of my favorite all-time band staying together are pretty slim, and that sucks. At the same time, LESS THAN 1 MONTH UNTIL THE SHOW IN MINNEAPOLIS...
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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 03/14/2004 : 18:46:09
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| It isn't the money. The Pixies got back together because I told them to. |
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porkbone1
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 03/14/2004 : 19:15:22
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Oh. In that case, thanks!!
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Old Neptuna
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Ireland
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Posted - 03/14/2004 : 21:51:03
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Maybe Kim asked Frank nicely.
 "Your head can go real screw, When saucers chasin' you.." |
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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =
USA
876 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2004 : 23:33:06
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I hope they make shitloads of money. I'd rather not see them on the Today show or getting nominated for a Best New Artist Grammy. But I want them to make tons of money from the Best Of, the DVD, the tour, and maybe a new album and sales of the old albums. Even if the reunion isn't a huge hit, it should still perc up their sales.
Man, I can't wait for the DVD. |
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <
New Zealand
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Posted - 03/15/2004 : 02:54:36
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i have no problem with them reforming for the money at all.
as someone said before, i'm quite excited to see what comes of franks new found wealth catholics wise.
they deserve a little money for all the joy etc they've given us for so many years.
"I joined the Cult of Frank / I think that man deserves a DB!" |
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Mroocore
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USA
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Posted - 03/15/2004 : 07:48:25
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Edited by - Mroocore on 03/18/2004 13:26:55 |
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Douglas
= Cult of Ray =
Sweden
308 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2004 : 08:02:17
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quote:
Originally posted by Mroocore
JOIN THE IMPERIAL GUARD
now that was a briliant idea. |
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1772 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2004 : 08:12:19
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quote:
Originally posted by Mroocore
JOIN THE IMPERIAL GUARD
Pfff? Just a mil?
I pay for my groceries with bills like that! |
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pixie punk
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Posted - 03/15/2004 : 11:13:21
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| In bucks we trust! Here comes your cash!!! The more money they get the more new music we will get from The Catholics,The Breeders,The Martinis and hopefully David will keep doing his tricks and form a band.Que Vivan Los Pixies!!!! Hello To All in the Forum!!! |
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mrgrieves1971
= Cult of Ray =
USA
544 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2004 : 14:14:55
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Originally posted by cindy lou
everything is financial. the reason they started a band was financial. and the "real reason" behind your post was financial.
I don't think they started the band for financial reasons. They would be foolish if they did. I mean, what were the chances? They just wanted to rock out and avoid real jobs. But I have no problem with them getting together to make a few bucks. Now, if they hired top industry producers and said "make us a hit record" and made glamorous and flashy videos to appeal to a larger audience (are you listening Liz Phair?) then I would have a problem. That would be a sell out. This ain't no sell out. If it is, we get the hell out.
But hey, once a band gets a record deal, a lot of what they do is based on a financial decisions. Doesn’t make them sell outs. Just professional.
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i_bleed
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Posted - 03/15/2004 : 14:47:03
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I dunno about the Pixies, but Dean and Gene Ween are bound together for life by orders of the Boognish. I think Gene tried to leave the band once, but the swift and heavy consequences forced him back in. Maybe the Boognish is contracting out to other bands?
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Stevio10
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/15/2004 : 19:31:14
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| There's a fine line between sell outs and indie gods. I mean, back when the pixies were around first, their biggest gigs (financially) were supporting U2. Now they are back on the scene some people are annoyed that they are sharing a stage with bands like radiohead, the darkness etc etc... Some people say these bands should be opening for the Pixies while others are saying sell out. Well, it's difficult to perceive because the pixies have always appeared to be a band that doesnt like to hog the limelight, as much or more so in their solo careers. Just because theyre back and their fanbase has grown in that time doesnt mean they should propel themselves to do what some bands have done. The Chilis for example, after One Hot Minute, came back with a massive bang (in a way that MTV and co drool over them) with Californication and though it alienated some of their fanbase it ultimately multiplied their fanbase because of the media frenzy and radio friendly vibe. On the contrary, the Pixies could be argued to have increased their fanbase the hard way, by merit as a quality band and influencing bands. It seems a lot cooler to have bands talk about a band from a "high culture" perspective if you will rather than some presenter cum critic cum wannabe rockstar (a la zane lowe). Im sure not that they asked to be namechecked, but it puts more credibility on the band to care more for the music rather than the promotion of their product that is not their music, ie image or even their legacy. I don't think the Pixies are cashing in on their legacy, but it would provide them with a platform to supply more of what they have done with the pixies and as solo artists yet hopefully keeping their charm as a cool indie band. It's hard to be successful yet retain respectability in a fickle business. |
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Stevio10
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/15/2004 : 19:33:34
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| its amazing what you find time to write when you're supposed to be doing an assignment for the next day and havent started it! sorry for the long winded essay guys and girls, just trying to find some motivation :( |
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monitormodule
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USA
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Posted - 03/16/2004 : 03:05:48
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| whoever started a business with the sole intent not to make money-pixies are a great band but nonetheless a business |
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offerw
* Dog in the Sand *
South Africa
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Posted - 03/16/2004 : 10:39:00
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They should be paid millions. I'd be particularly happy for Dave and Joey, they seemed to have been left behind after the Pixies split. Kim had the Breeders and Frank his solo stuff, they had record deals, they toured and they earned a living all because of the Pixies legacy.
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ShakeyShake
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/16/2004 : 11:49:00
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Not necessarily,they made good enough music to make a living off even without their pixies legacy
"I joined the Cult of this guy / 'cause they took my other picture away |
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offerw
* Dog in the Sand *
South Africa
1264 Posts |
Posted - 03/16/2004 : 11:57:52
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Originally posted by ShakeyShake
Not necessarily,they made good enough music to make a living off even without their pixies legacy
"I joined the Cult of this guy / 'cause they took my other picture away
Their music was/is/will be good enough to earn them a living but being ex-Pixies I think made it easier for them to get record deals, write-ups etc.
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 03/16/2004 : 12:09:42
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I'm as upset about the Pixies reunion as anyone, but I think even if it is entirely financial, there is a good reason. Frank just got in a divorce, it's no mystery that Franks solo albums don't sell very good, Frank has no way whatsoever to make money except by touring and putting out albums, if he is in desperate need of money right now, this might really be the only option he has. I think it's pretty obvious that the stuff he's put out in the past was not at all just for the money and that Frank loves music and doesn't give a flying fuck about pleasing the press or the critics or even the fans, but rather just doing what he wants to do. I think that the money he makes, besides the part that goes toward paying bills and other necessities, will be used for him to continue making music that he really wants to do NOT just for the money. Let's face it, if Frank was a sellout, he would have reformed the Pixies 5-10 years ago and he would've made music for his solo albums that sounded either more like the Pixies or a hell-of-a-lot more mainstreem instead of what he's been doing.
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1772 Posts |
Posted - 03/16/2004 : 12:46:34
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NimrodsSon & Stevio 10
Very well put, gentlemen.
To be concise....QUIT YER WHININ, everyone!
of course the Pixies are touring again (at least partially) for the money. At this point, it is pretty apparent that music is a CAREER for them. That entails getting paid for your labor, just like any other job. The Pixies (and more recently, Frank and Kim) have given their fans little to no reason to believe that they create music for anything other than the sake of GOOD ROCK. You can hear it in the music, you can see it in their attitudes/MO's, and getting paid is incidental.
Fuck me with a donkey-dick and call me Susan if I wouldn't want to wake up every morning doing what I love and getting paid for it too...the Pixies have (at various personal degrees) achieved this goal. They just want to keep doing what they do. I have nothing but respect for that. |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
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Posted - 03/16/2004 : 12:58:54
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The all ighty ollar! HAHAHAH!
 "Join the Cult of Brit / And let your oral hygiene go out the window." |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 03/16/2004 : 13:54:29
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They're really socking it to that Spiro Agnew guy again. He must work there or something.
Join the Culf of Buttoms / Correctly spelled cults are so passé. |
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freakin phreak
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Posted - 03/17/2004 : 18:41:57
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| i dont see how everyone can say this is all for the money. it cant all be for the money, but i bet its got something to do with it. i agree with monitormodule, the pixies are a business, like every band to put out records. if the whole tour was focusing on making money, however, they wouldnt be playing ump-teen shows out in canada and the west coast, theyd be playing huge arena shows with other huge bands to open for them. we would see a slew of crappy pixies merchandise, such as tour tee shirts just to make a buck. they seem to want to keep this to a minimum, which i respect. alot. if they do decide to tour all 48 continental states, with ticket prices jacked up to like a hundred bucks (like the stones), id say that was selling out. |
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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 03/18/2004 : 13:40:18
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They have not sold-out by reuniting. If they put out an album that was intended to appeal to the masses, that would be selling out. But as of yet, they're doing all of their old songs, which are not "sell-out" songs. I mean, at this point, the reaction to their reuniting is out of their control. There's no way for them to go back to the way they were, in partial obscurity, in the late 80's. They can't control the hype that follows them.
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 03/18/2004 : 15:39:05
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I don't think an album INTENDED to appeal to the masses would necessarily be selling out. I think most musicians want their music to be heard by as much of the public as possible. Now, if the Pixies jumped on the latest bandwagon to make a quick buck, I think THAT could be considered selling out.
Join the Culf of Buttoms / Correctly spelled cults are so passé. |
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
Canada
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Posted - 03/18/2004 : 17:34:10
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i kinda hope they don't put out a new album, look what happened with jane's addiction (sorry guys, that album after they reformed sucks) and the stone roses even (five years and the expectations were just too high) - however, a great album from the pixies would not surprise me at all.
"My upbringing gets me down" |
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Ebb Vicious
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 03/18/2004 : 19:03:00
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once again i think the most appropriate thing would be to quote "Hooker With a Penis" for you guys but i think you can go look it up yourself using google or going to toolshed.down.net
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CmabanK
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USA
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Posted - 03/18/2004 : 21:36:08
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Sellouts? not the Pixies...Looking for gain, possibly, but who isn't? If they couldn't gain in some way why would they continue...We all do it day after day. I'd venture to say that we don't bring the same happiness to lives and moods that FB and the Gang do, so by all means let them be paid...They make it possible for all of us to be here and voicing our opinion about what great things they've brought to us in our lives...I for one think that its well deserved even though I don't believe its purely financial. Keep making great music and bringing us something to smile about :)
 "Like Jesus Christ on the hill / I'll be Blue."
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whoreatthedoor
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Spain
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Posted - 03/19/2004 : 00:02:05
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| I was a little upset for the reunion thing, but... What the fuck? There are lots of non-talented "musicians" earning a lot of money they don't deserve. Why this four guys don't have to win some dollars for their amazing job? Think of it, they're not rock superstars right now. If they were, I will hate them for doing this. |
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Real Reason for Pixies Reforming
