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Brackish Boy
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 Posted - 03/05/2004 : 13:38:24
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| Was he great or have I just drunk too much wine...havn't come across anything as heartgripping as tex "Needle in the hay"..."Angeles" etc. since ...the Smiths first album...or "The Sad Punk" or "Dog gone" or "I'll be blue" or the Iggy Pop&Peaches duett... |
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Stuart
- The Clopser -
China
2291 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2004 : 16:27:09
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Yeah, I was around a friends house the other week and I saw that he had Figure 8, so I recorded it and have been listening to it ever since. Ive not heard Needle in the Hay yet, but will get it downloaded asap. You cannot listen to his stuff without feeling sad knowing that he killed himself.... great musician.
Who's the man that won't cop out when there's danger all about? |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2004 : 16:34:04
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You think thats good, just you wait, Stewpot.
I'm probably on my own in this, but I reckon Fig.8 is his least good album. You've got to listen to X/O and Either/Or, they are simply stunning.
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WolfManMikeLonely
= Cult of Ray =
USA
936 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2004 : 17:36:15
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I think my favorite is actually the self titled. Or either/or.
"Hey fuck you if you don't like it."
-Johnny Thunders
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offerw
* Dog in the Sand *
South Africa
1264 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2004 : 21:14:24
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Yep, Either/Or is his best I'd say.
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gracie
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
573 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2004 : 00:51:50
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I like Roman Candle the best, Last Call and Drive all over town are the rawest most heart wrenching songs i've ever heard.
Needle in the hay and Christain brother make me cry every time i listen to them.
For anyone who hasn't discovered Elliott you're really missing out, make it a prority. |
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1973 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2004 : 05:28:35
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"Needle in the hay" is definitely one of the most beautiful songs. I think there is a quote by Frank Black about this song...It is a very simple song, with a simple structure, melody and lyrics, yet really great.
I was really sad when he committed suicide. There are so many artists who could have done it instead (I won't give any names). I never understood people who kill themselves - how is it posssible to kill yourself? It's crazy.
Have some wine, please, don't run away. |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2004 : 07:03:41
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Originally posted by Adnan_le_Terrible
I was really sad when he committed suicide. There are so many artists who could have done it instead (I won't give any names).
Have some wine, please, don't run away.
Wouldn't it just be better if nobody committed suicide? Even artists you don't like.
Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!! |
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1973 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2004 : 09:36:07
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True, true.
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~
Spain
2674 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2004 : 10:01:08
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Holy shit I´ve been so out of touch with most Englishlanguage music over here, Elliott Smith dying was news to me. Ah this was good day up until now.
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"You one of those right-wing nut outfits?" inquired the diplomatic Metzger.
Fallopian twinkled. "They accuse us of being paranoids."
"They?" inquired Metzger, twinkling also.
"Us?" asked Oedipa.
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gracie
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
573 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2004 : 13:39:00
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Yep, stabbed himself with a steak knife, twice.
He sure didn't mess around. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Posted - 03/07/2004 : 14:02:33
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Originally posted by gracie
Yep, stabbed himself with a steak knife, twice.
He sure didn't mess around.
did you know that that's not a proven fact
there is still some thought about him being killed by his girlfriend
 "I joined the Cult of Frank/Nobody wanted to join my Culf" |
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Stuart
- The Clopser -
China
2291 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2004 : 05:45:36
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Isn't that so with every famous person who dies though???
Who's the man that won't cop out when there's danger all about? |
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GoddessTheory
= Cult of Ray =
USA
675 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2004 : 07:35:04
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No. John Lennon, Jeff Buckley, Otis Redding are amongst those with no girlfriend help to shuffle them off this mortal coil.
Although I am sure being the clever trousers you all are, you could tie each one of those to a female in some way. |
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~
Spain
2674 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2004 : 11:32:58
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To the best of my knowledge, Marvin Gaye´s father wasn´t his girlfriend either.
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"You one of those right-wing nut outfits?" inquired the diplomatic Metzger.
Fallopian twinkled. "They accuse us of being paranoids."
"They?" inquired Metzger, twinkling also.
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2007 : 14:02:47
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I tend to think "Between the Bars" is a good song.
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Little Black Francis
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 10/12/2007 : 14:54:08
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Either/or is my favorite one too. After hundreds of listens, I'm still not sick of any of the songs, although I usually skip the last two in order to start it all over again sooner.
His website is awesome, Sweet Adeline, full of awesome stuff about him and the music and fan artwork and poems and stuff like that.
If you Like Between the Bars, then you'll also probably like Angeles on the same CD. Of course videos all available on youtube.
There are 88 Bootlegs at Archive.org
I don't know why you brought this topic up? simply to say something random? I don't know what you know or don't know, but if you didn't know the above you should check it out.
And what's up with the "I tend to like," is that just an expression? It implies that sometimes you don't like that song, but most of the time you do. I'm trying to be nice.
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2007 : 14:58:05
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As usual, I'm listening to something new only because I heard Frank Black liked it. I downloaded two of Elliott's albums this morning from eMusic, and "Between the Bars" is the song that stuck out the most for me after one listen. So I found an existing thread, made a vague comment, and waited to see who else might be listening to this guy right now.
Hope that explains things, LBF.
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Skatealex1
* Dog in the Sand *
1670 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2007 : 15:01:20
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"It don't matter cause I have no sex life, all I wanna do now is inject my ex-wife"
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Little Black Francis
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 10/12/2007 : 15:13:40
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I read an FB quote somewhere sometime along the lines that if he wants to cry he listens to Needle in the Hay.
If you're new to his music, you really can't go wrong with anything. Each CD does seem to have a unique sound and feel to it, you'll find as you listen to each one.
I still haven't listened to the last 2 CDs that have been released since his death. they're like rare b-sides and unrealesed songs. For some reason, I just haven't had much of a inclination to listen to that stuff. I guess I'm saving it for some reason.
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 10/12/2007 : 16:16:44
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The kcrw appearance was a good re-introduction to Elliot Smith. Wise head on those shoulders. I normally go for the earlier sparser work of guys like these but I really liked what he did on xo and Figure 8. Bad he's gone.
"There's no telling how that stuff goes. What can you do? Everybody can't have their day on the same day. Some people can't even have their day at all."
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Little Black Francis
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 10/13/2007 : 04:43:40
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Have you ever seen Good Will Hunting? I think there is something like 7 or 8 Elliott songs in that movie. That's kind of like introducing frank as the guy nirvana said the pixies are good. Toss up, good will hunting vs nirvana. drunk, deletion imminent
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2007 : 06:18:22
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Nirvana were blameless by and large. The Good Will Hunting guys were not. I remember GWH as utterly cynical. That they'd hide their horns and tail behind the beautiful innocence of Elliott Smith...
I know a couple of people who like the movie so maybe I misread it. It's been years. Well, delete mine while you're at it.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2007 : 10:53:04
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mr.biscuitdoughhead
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1729 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2007 : 20:11:07
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Elliott is pretty much all I listen to anymore. Roman Candle's my favorite fo sho, esp. No Name #1.
Some of those bootlegs LBF linked to are really funny, like the one where he says "I can't stand up, cos I don't have no knees. Heh heh... That wasn't funny."
(oh and cohen, i did a cover of Between the Bars on the piano. it's on here somewhere.)
 "How do you like that, Sir Harold?
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
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Posted - 10/13/2007 : 20:27:56
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Originally posted by mr.biscuitdoughhead
(oh and cohen, i did a cover of Between the Bars on the piano. it's on here somewhere.)
Do you have sheet music?
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mr.biscuitdoughhead
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1729 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2007 : 20:29:48
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no, just the chords. there's some sheet music here. You should be able to figure out what would be the plucking part on guitar pretty easily. I did and I never took lessons or anything.
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mr.biscuitdoughhead
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1729 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2007 : 20:38:28
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elliott kicks ass at the piano. http://youtube.com/watch?v=_qH2SmPth0A i heard he could play that when he was 10, but he quit to play soccer.
"How do you like that, Sir Harold?
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OLDMANOTY
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
469 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2007 : 02:02:28
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| For newcommers I'd recommend XO or Figure 8 to start with, as they're probably the easiest albums to get into. One song that always gets me is A Fond Farewell off From A Basement On The Hill. |
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