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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =
Italy
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 Posted - 02/25/2004 : 21:24:40
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i've heard about these menace messages before but finally i got one myself:
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Downloading of Movies, MP3s and Software is illegal and punishable by
law.
We hereby inform you that your computer was scanned under the IP
222.121.89.198 . The
contents of your computer were confiscated as an evidence, and you will
be indicated.
You get the charge in writing, in the next days.
In the Reference code: #56823, are all files, that we found on your
computer.
The sender address of this mail was masked, to protect us against mail
bombs.
- You get more detailed information by the Federal Bureau of
Investigation -FBI-
- Department for "Illegal Internet Downloads", Room 7350
- 935 Pennsylvania Avenue
- Washington, DC 20535, USA
- (202) 324-3000
a virus scan of the attachment that came with it found the "W32.Sober.C@mm" worm.if anybody else got similar messages(with or without viruses attached)don't worry.it's almost certain that someone uses the RIAA menace to terrorize people.though it's true that the FBI has an internet control department it's not true that they can "confiscate" your files because it's illegal hacking and cannot be used as evidence.plus the mail is in pretty poor english and the FBI should have a hell of a firewall to be afraid of "mail bombs".keep your pc protected and keep file sharing.
 join the cult of errol\and you can have a beer\without having to quit smoking
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
4800 Posts |
Posted - 02/25/2004 : 21:40:50
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Yeah, hahaha - I don't think being "indicated" will hurt too much. Thanks for the heads up, mun chien. By the way, what was the sender name given?
My brother at Vanderbilt Univ. said some students there are being subpoenaed -last I talked to him they hadn't released the names yet. Sounds like their suit scare-tactics are still rolling. What ugly bastards. RIAA!!! http://www.eff.org/IP/P2P/riaasubpoenas/
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 02/25/2004 : 22:04:07
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Evidently the FBI speaks very bad English. And, they use, too many, commas.
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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1738 Posts |
Posted - 02/25/2004 : 23:19:40
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I have a few questions about prosecuting file sharers:
How exactly do the RIAA detect files on your computer? Most P2P software has some sort of folder labeled "My Shared Folder" or "Downloads" to specify that it's open to other user's uploading files from you. I have, at times, had quite a few downloaded files. But, eventually they ended up outside the shared folder. Can they scan your entire hard disk? How would they know that the songs were downloaded? Is there some sort of obscure digital mark to it, or what?? I don't get it. For instance, if I downloaded a Frank Black song, then put it in a new folder labeled "Frank Black Miscellaneous" (or whatever) how would the RIAA be the wiser from where I got it? (I realize that the tendency to download music without sharing defeats the purpose of the P2P programs, but it happens.) |
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
4800 Posts |
Posted - 02/26/2004 : 09:32:51
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Hey glacial. I wondered about this too. There's some really good info on this at the Electronic Frontier Foundation's website:
(excerpt from) http://www.eff.org/IP/P2P/howto-notgetsued.php
"While there is no way to know exactly what the RIAA is going to do, who it is going to sue, or even how much music qualifies as a "substantial" amount, users of P2P networks can take the following steps to reduce their chances of being sued:
Either:
Make sure there are no potentially infringing files in your shared folder. This would ordinarily mean that your shared folder contains only files 1) that are in the public domain, 2) for which you have permission to share, or 3) that are made available under pro-sharing licenses, such as the Creative Commons license or other open media licenses, and
Remove all potentially misleading file names that might be confusedwith the name of an RIAA artist or song (e.g., "Usher" or "Madonna") from your shared folder.
Or:
Disable the "sharing" or "uploading" features on your P2P application that allow other users on the network to get copies of files from your computer or scan any of your music directories. We hate this option, but it does appear that it will reduce your chances of becoming an RIAA target right now. For instructions on how to do this for particular applications, EFF suggests (but cannot guarantee) the following links:
Grokster
http://www.grokster.com/helpfaq.html#Stop%20Sharing%20files
http://www.oit.duke.edu/helpdesk/filesharing/grokster.html
Morpheus
http://www.oit.duke.edu/helpdesk/filesharing/morpheus.html
http://penguin.cc.edu/peer/peer2peer.html#morpheus
KaZaA
http://www.oit.duke.edu/helpdesk/filesharing/kazaa.html
http://penguin.cc.edu/peer/peer2peer.html#kazaa
Aimster/Madster
Windows
http://www.oit.duke.edu/helpdesk/filesharing/aimster.html
Mac OS
http://www.oit.duke.edu/helpdesk/filesharing/aimster_mac.html
Gnutella
Mactella
http://www.oit.duke.edu/helpdesk/filesharing/mactella.html
Gnucleus
http://www.oit.duke.edu/helpdesk/filesharing/gnucleus.html
Gnotella
http://www.oit.duke.edu/helpdesk/filesharing/gnotella.html
LimeWire
MacOS
http://www.oit.duke.edu/helpdesk/filesharing/limewiremac.html
Windows
http://www.oit.duke.edu/helpdesk/filesharing/limewirewin.html
http://penguin.cc.edu/peer/peer2peer.html#limewire
BearShare
http://www.oit.duke.edu/helpdesk/filesharing/bearshare.html
http://penguin.cc.edu/peer/peer2peer.html#bearshare
iMesh
http://www.oit.duke.edu/helpdesk/filesharing/imesh.html
WinMX
http://www.oit.duke.edu/helpdesk/filesharing/winmx.html
http://penguin.cc.edu/peer/peer2peer.html#winmx
The RIAA appears to be targeting subpoenas at users who allow their computers to be "Supernodes" on the FastTrack P2P System (used, for instance, by KaZaA and Morpheus). In order to further reduce the risk of having your ISP subpoenaed or of being sued yourself, we recommend that you make sure your computer is not being used as a Supernode. To learn more about Supernodes and how to make sure your computer is not one, look here: http://www.whtvcable.com/fasttrack andhttp://helpdesk.princeton.edu/kb/display.plx?ID=9245. See also Disabling the Supernode function with KaZaA (PDF 331k).
If you receive notice that your ISP has been subpoenaed for your name and address, consider contacting www.subpoenadefense.org, where you can find information about how to defend your privacy and a list of attorneys willing to help. Contact your ISP and ask the people there to notify you immediately if they receive a subpoena seeking your identity.
If you receive a cease and desist letter from the RIAA, consider contactingChilling Effects, where EFF and several law school clinics are creating a gallery of cease and desist letters along with basic information about the claims being made and your rights online."
It doesn't cover everything, but I hope that helps.
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =
Italy
2139 Posts |
Posted - 02/26/2004 : 10:37:17
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Originally posted by glacial906
I have a few questions about prosecuting file sharers:
How exactly do the RIAA detect files on your computer? Most P2P software has some sort of folder labeled "My Shared Folder" or "Downloads" to specify that it's open to other user's uploading files from you. I have, at times, had quite a few downloaded files. But, eventually they ended up outside the shared folder. Can they scan your entire hard disk? How would they know that the songs were downloaded? Is there some sort of obscure digital mark to it, or what?? I don't get it. For instance, if I downloaded a Frank Black song, then put it in a new folder labeled "Frank Black Miscellaneous" (or whatever) how would the RIAA be the wiser from where I got it? (I realize that the tendency to download music without sharing defeats the purpose of the P2P programs, but it happens.)
the name of the folder has nothing to do with it.one that gains access to your pc can do everything from copying\deleting your files to open\close your cd ray to turn off the pc.whatever you can do by physically controling your computer can be done from distance(as long as you are on line off course).the explanation is too long and technical but basically is this:when you enter the internet your pc is identified by a unique number (ip).that's what they trace and not a single folder.now your pc communicates with the net through various ports and every port is task-specific(messenger,updates etc).now if you let your pc unprotected someone who has the knowledge can use an otherwise harmless port to gain access to your system.that's what the riaa does.they scan the major number of pcs(ips) they can with automatized software and they "photograph"the contents of hard discs.since this is illegal as it's illegal to trace the owner of an ip,they can't sue you directly but they send a letter to your isp saying more or less that they suspect a certain ip for illegal dling(the infamous cease and desist letters).it's up to your isp to let you know about it and take (or not take) action against the ip holder.
most of them do but there are some that sued the riaa for violating their customers' privacy.
bottom line:get a firewall and peerguardian and you'll be safe at 90%.there are millions of p2p users and they can't do anything about it.actually they have already started undercover warfare by distributing viruses and other harmful files renamed as popular downloads.
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edbanky
= Cult of Ray =
Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
388 Posts |
Posted - 06/28/2006 : 15:21:15
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This is a really old topic.
edbanky: what are french rolls?
edbanky's stepmom: just a package of rolls that are french |
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
2478 Posts |
Posted - 06/28/2006 : 15:30:37
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 06/28/2006 : 15:45:12
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'They' must have got to him!
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IceCream
= Quote Accumulator =
USA
1850 Posts |
Posted - 06/28/2006 : 22:15:51
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Originally posted by Ziggy
Where's mun chien gone, btw?
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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1738 Posts |
Posted - 06/28/2006 : 22:31:31
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Actually, due to Dave Noisy's allegations, the RIAA infiltrated mun chien andalusia's computer (using a special tabbed IE page in Firefox) and found illegally downloaded copies of the Noisies' music. mun chien has been on the run ever since, with Dave not far behind on a bicycle.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2006 : 04:36:08
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The last I saw of him, he was getting off with Kathryn at his leaving party.
 I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2006 : 06:22:08
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Doesn't Orrin Hatch favor sending viruses to crash the computers of people who illegally download music?
"If you doze much longer, then life turns to dreaming. If you doze much longer, then dreams turn to nightmares." |
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