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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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 Posted - 02/22/2004 : 15:05:05
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sorry if this has been discussed, or if it's obvious.. but i came to an epiphany listening to FB self-titled that the hook in Tossed is pretty much the exact same as in Blast Off.. yet another song that Frank obviously kicked around for a while before revisiting it and re-working it.
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TheCroutonFuton
- Mr. Setlists -
USA
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Posted - 02/22/2004 : 15:07:02
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Hmm...*listens*
Well what do you know? You're right...I hear it...
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *
France
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Posted - 02/22/2004 : 16:12:07
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Yeah, but perhaps it's just his brain that works this way, I mean, perhaps he didn't do it on purpose.
Wait, shouldn't this thread be in the General FB Chat?
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 02/22/2004 : 16:19:30
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it could just be coincidence, but they seem way too similar. and Frank has done that with so many other songs, where he'll write something, let it stew for a few years, and then come back to it and change it into something else.
Velvety is the ultimate example of it. there are others though.
also, it's interesting that Tossed says "[instrumental version]" on FB. |
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bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/22/2004 : 16:21:18
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Originally posted by floop
it could just be coincidence, but they seem way too similar. and Frank has done that with so many other songs, where he'll write something, let it stew for a few years, and then come back to it and change it into something else.
Velvety is the ultimate example of it. there are others though.
also, it's interesting that Tossed says "[instrumental version]" on FB.
yeah, although like velvety it never had lyrics anyway... however he's played it a few times live with lyrics. and it's really good actually, i just wish he'd record it, on an oddballs or something, with lyrics! as it's good! i like it!
oh my 600th post! i'd like to thank harry and the muffins, without whom i'd never have been able to have done this. keep them juicy my son!
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Johnny Yen
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 02/22/2004 : 16:32:45
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| I think I remember reading Velvety did have lyrics at some point previously, but only the instrumental version was recorded. Frank remembered pieces of that previous version when he was writing the one released on Devils Workshop. Maybe? i forget where I read that... |
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TheCroutonFuton
- Mr. Setlists -
USA
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Posted - 02/22/2004 : 16:37:22
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I think Johnny is right...
Despite the liner notes in the B-Side Collection...I remember him mentioning that he knows he had lyrics of it in a notebook from when he was 15 and that he remembered some of them and just can't find the notebook..hmm...mabe we're both just crazy and pulled that out of our asses, though..
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Johnny Yen
= Cult of Ray =
USA
408 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2004 : 16:49:10
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| Are you in a Reeses-Peanut-Butter-Cup induced frenzy as well, Crouton? That might explain everything. |
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TheCroutonFuton
- Mr. Setlists -
USA
1728 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2004 : 16:57:44
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No..but soon I'll be in a blue raspberry slushie induced frenzy. *grins*
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
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Posted - 02/22/2004 : 17:52:44
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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *
Austria
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Posted - 02/23/2004 : 01:05:42
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hmhmmm...i wouldn't have noticed, but my musical talent is less then nothing. anyways, on a 1993 bootleg there is 'tossed' with lyrics - and they have nothing to do with 'blast off'. but there is an own thread on this, i think.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 02/23/2004 : 10:18:47
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| Yeah, I've got a bootleg cassette of a Seattle show for the first album, and he dose a version with lyrics..."Hey, I must have been tossed down here". |
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Chris Knight
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 02/23/2004 : 17:39:46
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quote:
Originally posted by floop
sorry if this has been discussed, or if it's obvious.. but i came to an epiphany listening to FB self-titled that the hook in Tossed is pretty much the exact same as in Blast Off.. yet another song that Frank obviously kicked around for a while before revisiting it and re-working it.
Nah... I wouldn't agree. Just a slight similarity between the most prominent riffs, that's all.
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 02/23/2004 : 19:19:34
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| yeah, i'm not saying i know this to be the case. just posing the question.. but that riff is like the exact same you have to admit. |
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johndietzel
= Cult of Ray =
Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
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Posted - 02/23/2004 : 19:37:06
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Hello, Dr. Floopenstein: I don't think it necessarily is a true predacessor, as has been the case in the past examples. Usually he has been more overt with them. But I honestly do think that "Blast Off" probably came out of the same womb as "Tossed." There's a lot to it that is VERY similar. You can sing "Blast Off"'s melodies along with quite a few sections of "Tossed." I love my Zoom Player.
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Conrad
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 02/24/2004 : 12:28:41
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I see the resemblance.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 02/26/2004 : 05:42:40
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| Actually, I think the verse chord progression in 'King And Queen Of Siam' is very similar to the chorus chord prog. in Pixies 'Dead'. Don't want to get anal(snigger!), but there IS a strong resemblance! |
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 02/26/2004 : 06:05:06
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Originally posted by Carl
Actually, I think the verse chord progression in 'King And Queen Of Siam' is very similar to the chorus chord prog. in Pixies 'Dead'. Don't want to get anal(snigger!), but there IS a strong resemblance!
Actually, the intro/outro to that song is VERY reminiscent of the intro to Ana (different key, same chord progression pretty much)
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 02/26/2004 : 09:41:30
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| Really? Gotta try that.... |
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~
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Posted - 12/13/2004 : 17:24:41
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quote:
Originally posted by floop
yet another song that Frank obviously kicked around for a while before revisiting it and re-working it.
(dedicated to BLT. The oldest thread I could find to resurrect)
I heard it too. |
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Apesy
= Cult of Ray =
USA
411 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2004 : 18:55:17
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Does anyone have an MP3 of the live version of "Tossed" with lyrics?
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gary13th
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
632 Posts |
Posted - 12/14/2004 : 05:20:38
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yep
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toeknee
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
281 Posts |
Posted - 12/14/2004 : 15:14:42
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Apesy
= Cult of Ray =
USA
411 Posts |
Posted - 12/14/2004 : 15:59:19
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Originally posted by gary13th
yep
If you're feeling generous: apesyx@gmail.com
I've been looking for a version forever...
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broken part
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Posted - 12/14/2004 : 17:46:58
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| The outro of 'the thing' is similar to 'the happening'. Now I'm not saying in anyway that these two songs might have a connection. But they just SOUND the same... to me... I don't know, probably just a coincidence. |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 12/15/2004 : 14:42:29
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Are you being sarcastic, dude?
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stymie
= Cult of Ray =
385 Posts |
Posted - 12/27/2004 : 10:05:08
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| He opened a show on 4/13/96 in Bloomington IN with a verison of mosh, don't pass the guy with lyrics! That was on of the best frank shops that i attended! |
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~
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Posted - 12/28/2004 : 08:52:55
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quote:
Originally posted by stymie
He opened a show on 4/13/96 in Bloomington IN with a verison of mosh, don't pass the guy with lyrics!
Now that I would love to hear.
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Tossed early version of Blast Off?
