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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 02/20/2004 :  17:37:01  Show Profile  Visit prozacrat's Homepage  Click to see prozacrat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Yeah. I'm looking at it now and I'm not seeing anything. I don't like that. I hope it's straightened out soon.

"And her head has no room."
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Manny
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
252 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  17:38:17  Show Profile  Click to see Manny's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
That is pretty strange. Maybe they're reorganizing the listings or something.. Hopefully it will be back on soon enough.
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porkbone1
= Cult of Ray =

USA
390 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  17:43:20  Show Profile  Visit porkbone1's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The show just appeard on there again. (sigh of relief)
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astrocat
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USA
109 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  17:44:50  Show Profile  Visit astrocat's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Whew, it's back up!
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porkbone1
= Cult of Ray =

USA
390 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  17:45:16  Show Profile  Visit porkbone1's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Oh check this out. They just added this information to the information page:

TICKETS THAT ARE SOLD FOR ABOVE FACE VALUE ON AUCTION SITES WILL BE CANCELLED.
TICKET PICKUP/MAILING DOES NOT BEGIN UNTIL FEB 24/04. TICKETS WILL SELL OUT IN MINUTES.
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Manny
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Canada
252 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  17:52:01  Show Profile  Click to see Manny's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
So what's the final word on refreshing the browser every few seconds? Is it a good idea or will ticketmaster somehow block me out?
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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1186 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  18:02:37  Show Profile  Visit prozacrat's Homepage  Click to see prozacrat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I'm glad to see that they're trying to dissuade scalpers.

"And her head has no room."
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pixiesarethegreatest
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10 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  18:03:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Matt B or who ever is the ticket order taker:

Is it too late to join the club. Can I still put in for some tickets?

I'm planning on having me and my a bunch of friends who arn't into the pixies but are trying to get tickets for me and my two friends (some on-line and some on the phone - I owe them all a round of beers for getting up so early on a Saturday). Hopefully well get some tixs, any extras I will put up here on the board.

The most I would need is 3 (but I will settle for 2). Good choice on the albert, awesome venue.

I saw that disclaimer by ticketmaster just now, does any one know how the heck they would enforce that?
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roomloo
= Cult of Ray =

USA
710 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  18:08:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"TICKET PICKUP/MAILING DOES NOT BEGIN UNTIL FEB 24/04"

Well, that's just the second business day after the sale date. I'd love to see them hold off until the beginning of April ... I mean, if they REALLY wanted to keep the scalpers away...

That's what Radiohead did with their tickets from W.A.S.T.E. last year. Didn't mail them out until a couple weeks before the show. Got the fans really nervous, but in the end it was a pretty good idea.
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chrischob
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Canada
110 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  18:27:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think I noticed in small print is that you cant exceed the ticket limit per person using 2 credit cards in your name. If you buy more then the limit with different cards but the same name on them your tickets get cancelled.

"Please adhere to published ticket limits. Multiple orders exceeding the limit, ordered on the same credit card or different credit cards belonging to the same person or at the same address, may be cancelled without notice.
**TICKET LIMIT FOR THIS EVENT IS 4 PER CUSTOMER** "


Chris Choboter

Edited by - chrischob on 02/20/2004 18:28:21
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mattb
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
474 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  18:40:51  Show Profile  Visit mattb's Homepage  Click to see mattb's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Manny

So what's the final word on refreshing the browser every few seconds? Is it a good idea or will ticketmaster somehow block me out?



ticketmaster will block you out. Test it you self. I did it and it blocked me for 5 minutes. If you go to the help page it also tells you this.

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mattb
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
474 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  18:46:00  Show Profile  Visit mattb's Homepage  Click to see mattb's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by roomloo

"TICKET PICKUP/MAILING DOES NOT BEGIN UNTIL FEB 24/04"

Well, that's just the second business day after the sale date. I'd love to see them hold off until the beginning of April ... I mean, if they REALLY wanted to keep the scalpers away...

That's what Radiohead did with their tickets from W.A.S.T.E. last year. Didn't mail them out until a couple weeks before the show. Got the fans really nervous, but in the end it was a pretty good idea.



The thing about picking up tickets two days later is just standard ticketmaster policy. Nothing weird about it.

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Manny
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
252 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  18:48:59  Show Profile  Click to see Manny's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mattb

quote:
Originally posted by Manny

So what's the final word on refreshing the browser every few seconds? Is it a good idea or will ticketmaster somehow block me out?



ticketmaster will block you out. Test it you self. I did it and it blocked me for 5 minutes. If you go to the help page it also tells you this.

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Ah yeah.. I see. I guess I better not refresh too often... this seems like it could be tricky.

Well, we'll see how it goes.
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Vidman
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Posted - 02/20/2004 :  18:50:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How in the world would they be able to 'cancel' a ticket bought on a website?? I think that's pretty much not going to happen... It might scare a few people away from trying though.
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roomloo
= Cult of Ray =

USA
710 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  18:53:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"How in the world would they be able to 'cancel' a ticket bought on a website?? I think that's pretty much not going to happen... It might scare a few people away from trying though."

Well, a lot of times these days venues will use bar-code scanners to read your tickets as you enter, rather than rip off your stub. One of the purposes is to prevent the same ticket from being used twice, but I'm sure it could also keep you from entering if the bar code is marked "canceled" in Ticketmaster's database.
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pixiesarethegreatest
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10 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  19:02:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ya they could do that, but the burton cummings is pretty ghetto I been there a few times ( i live in winnipeg) and for all the shows I've been two they just ripped up my stub, no scanning or anything.

The place is really old it used to be an old movie theatre, my mom used to go there when she was a kid. Its pretty old inside, but the place has amazing acustics......

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pixiesarethegreatest
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10 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  19:21:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was thinking about it and the odds of getting through tommorow adn being able to buy tickets might be a bit tough:
Burton Cummings holds 1600 seats
assuming each person buys 4 tickets
only leaves 400 available slots for tickects
the Winnipeg Sun paper says that they will get around 10000 requests for tickets ( abunch of those will be repeats) but still...

"May the force be with you and good luck"
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Vidman
- FB Fan -

12 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  19:26:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[/quote]

Well, a lot of times these days venues will use bar-code scanners to read your tickets as you enter, rather than rip off your stub. One of the purposes is to prevent the same ticket from being used twice, but I'm sure it could also keep you from entering if the bar code is marked "canceled" in Ticketmaster's database.
[/quote]

But my question is: How would they know which to cancel?? If I buy tickets off e-Bay, ticketmaster might see some for sale, but they won't know which tix I am actually buying... Certainly after this threat a scalper would be foolish to report (prior to the sale) which actual seats he was selling. He cold just say they are in row 6 or 7 near the centre, and leave it at that...
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roomloo
= Cult of Ray =

USA
710 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  19:30:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Vidman -- you are correct. I thought you were just questioning how a ticket could be canceled. Sometimes a seller will include a scan of the actual ticket to prove they actually have them, in which case there might be an identification code there, but you're right -- as long as the seller doesn't do anything stupid, there's not much way for the tickets to be tracked.

However, while this might not be enough to scare the scalpers, hopefully it might be enough to scare away at least a few buyers, keeping the bids a little lower.

The problem would be better solved if all scalpers just spontaneously combusted like ... now.

Edited by - roomloo on 02/20/2004 19:31:07
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mattb
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
474 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  19:52:30  Show Profile  Visit mattb's Homepage  Click to see mattb's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Guys, I know ebay doesn't appreciate illegal activites on their site so maybe they have somehow teamed up with ticketmaster and will give personal information on anyone who is selling tickets. Ticketmaster matches up the name with the person who bought the tickets and cancels them. Simple as that. Think about it though, even if that isn't the case just knowing that there is a chance that ticketmaster could cancel the ticket will make tons of people think twice before bidding on one of those auctions.

The point about only 400 transactions being processed if everyone buys the maximum has me worried too. I honestly wish that ticketmaster would limit the amount of tickets able to purchase to 2 or to be honest even 1. I love the pixies and if I had to go by myself I woudln't care, just being able to see them play together once would be more important than anything.

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mattb
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
474 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  19:54:34  Show Profile  Visit mattb's Homepage  Click to see mattb's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by roomloo

The problem would be better solved if all scalpers just spontaneously combusted like ... now.



It would also help if half the pixies fans did the same.

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roomloo
= Cult of Ray =

USA
710 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  19:57:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No Pixies fans should combust ... although I wish a severe computer malfunction on all those people suddenly interested in getting tickets for "that band that had that song in Fight Club."
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pixiesarethegreatest
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10 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  20:00:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Limiting purchases to one ticket would definitely curb scalping.
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roomloo
= Cult of Ray =

USA
710 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  20:02:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Limiting to one at a general admission show would be just fine, but I just don't think it could ever be an option with reserved seating. Good idea, though.
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porkbone1
= Cult of Ray =

USA
390 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  20:06:43  Show Profile  Visit porkbone1's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Back in the day, there was a video game for the PC called "Leisure Suit Larry" which was sort of Mature in nature. At the beginning was a short quiz with questions that would determine if you were old enough to be playing.

Maybe ticketmaster should have a short quiz, perhaps "put these albums in order by release date" or "which of the following songs are B-sides" -- that way only fans could buy tickets. ;)
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pixiesarethegreatest
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10 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  20:11:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I remember "Leisure Suit Larry" I used to play that game at my neighbours house when I was like 10. Some of the questions were definitely tough since we were so young and our knowledge of past history was pretty limited. Sometimes it took us so many tries to past the quiz that we would give up and go play atari :)
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jackanapes
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237 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  20:25:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm not going to be able to sleep tonite. Oh wait; 12 pack. I want to meet everyone that's been posting on this thread at the preshow.

Break a leg.
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mattb
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
474 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  20:45:37  Show Profile  Visit mattb's Homepage  Click to see mattb's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I won't be able to sleep either. I'm seriously really stressed out, but vodka helps.

I remember that Leisure Suit Larry Quiz! The Sprio Agnew question always fucked me up.

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jackanapes
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237 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  20:48:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't know if I've posted this but I'm using my mall security access to get to the TM location before they open the doors for the public. I'm meeting some other fan who I haven't even met at 645 tomorrow morning and I'm takin' her with me.
Christ; how old am I?
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mattb
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
474 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  20:50:52  Show Profile  Visit mattb's Homepage  Click to see mattb's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jackanapes

I don't know if I've posted this but I'm using my mall security access to get to the TM location before they open the doors for the public. I'm meeting some other fan who I haven't even met at 645 tomorrow morning and I'm takin' her with me.
Christ; how old am I?




Hey, maybe you'll get some action! Two pixies fans alone in a mall. Is there a better recipe for some love?


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jackanapes
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237 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  20:53:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
mattb, us guys always think along the same lines. I'll bring my camera but we only have 15 minutes before the mall walkers show up. Second thought, 15 minutes should be more than enough.
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jackanapes
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237 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  22:19:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm going to the Walker to kick Henry Rollins' ass after the show and then I'm going to make a t-shirt that says "I kicked Henry Rollins Ass".

/Told you I couldn't sleep
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deaddack
- FB Fan -

Canada
13 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  22:45:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
man am i getting edgy. just caught myself pacing around the room. good luck everyone in getting tickets.
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EG
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23 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2004 :  22:54:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Add me too the list, I am driving from Boston. My number is 607-227-4547.

The real fair, last minute, easy, random way to distribute is one of these two ways, END OF STORY;

a) post your number as soon as you have extras: whoever calls and demonstrates trust first gets however many tickets.

b) Post that you have aquired tickets. whoever replies PERSONALLY with their own number wins. You call them, collect if need be, and transact to sell them the tix.

This is easy, quick, and ultimately fair. END OF STORY, RIGHT?

I will post my number if I get more than my need (2), on this thread.
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bobo plenty
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USA
122 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2004 :  00:08:53  Show Profile  Visit bobo plenty's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Leisure suit larry? I thought I was the only
one who had ever seen that game. Thanks for
the memories.
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