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rivum
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
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 Posted - 02/07/2025 : 04:49:59
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this is interesting. has it been released on streaming or CD before now?
Note the comment about "the original line-up present and correct" 
Available on vinyl for the first time for Record Store Day 2025!
Pressed on 140g Grey/Black Vinyl. Demon Records are proud to present Pixies - Bossanova / Trompe Le Mode Live from Europe. Recorded across Europe during their recent tour.
Featuring the Pixies in their fullest form with the original line-up present and correct (David Lovering on drums, Joey Santiago on guitar, bassist Kim Deal, and Charles Michael Kittridge "Frank Black Francis" Thompson IV).
https://recordstoreday.com/SpecialRelease/18666 |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6281 Posts |
Posted - 02/07/2025 : 04:55:48
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Wow, weird to be talking about Kim.
Still great release. It's not streaming or on cd if you ask me.
No brainer.
Need this! (would prefer cd but I will take vinyl)
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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yarbles
= Cult of Ray =
USA
637 Posts |
Posted - 02/07/2025 : 05:33:55
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| The info is all wrong, this 2LP set is made up from live recordings of the Bossanova/Trompe European tour last year with Emma. I'm so glad we're getting it, the shows were amazing (saw 2 nights in Manchester and 1 night in London). The sound quality on the Come On Pilgrim It's Surfer Rosa Live In London 2LP set is incredible, it's my favorite live recording of almost any band. If this set has that same level of quality, count me super excited. |
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 02/08/2025 : 15:08:16
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| Ha that's a shocker press release. Obviously no Kim, but even the year is wrong, it was 2024 no? (I hope I'm not losing my mind...) |
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Discoking
* Dog in the Sand *
Belgium
1139 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2025 : 22:14:20
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correct. it was 2024.
 it's educational |
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Mad Lucas
- FB Fan -
Australia
191 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2025 : 23:31:55
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| Incorrect details aside im the exact kind of sucker who will buy this gladly |
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Discoking
* Dog in the Sand *
Belgium
1139 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2025 : 10:02:57
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me too...
it's educational |
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Discoking
* Dog in the Sand *
Belgium
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Mad Lucas
- FB Fan -
Australia
191 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2025 : 01:18:21
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| There's some good B Sides covered on Come On Pilgrim It's Surfer Rosa Live and Doolittle Live in Brussels |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Posted - 03/27/2025 : 00:36:08
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Originally posted by Mad Lucas
There's some good B Sides covered on Come On Pilgrim It's Surfer Rosa Live and Doolittle Live in Brussels
Great! And I totally forgot about Winterlong. So a lot of B-sides are also covered.
Theme from Narc or Evil Hearted You would be nice in the future!
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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *
Austria
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Posted - 03/28/2025 : 04:35:21
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I'm not so much familiar with the record store day - can anybody tell me, if the LP is available for ordering? I'm confused between "sold out" info and "not available yet" info...
I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band |
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Discoking
* Dog in the Sand *
Belgium
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Posted - 03/28/2025 : 05:11:06
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normally, record store day exclusive releases are first available in the physical record shop, on record store day.
pre-orders are not allowed. so it'd be strange to find an online pre-order for these releases.
after record store day, though, everything goes. some shops put their leftovers online. which is interesting for people who can't make it to a record shop, but want to try and get one of these releases.
some shops add all the releases to their webshop in advance, but aren't allowed to start selling them yet. depending on the system they use, this can sometimes look like the item has already sold out.
if all goes well, the item will become available that evening, the next day, or not much after, depending on when they can add the stock to their webshop.
note that there is absolutely no guarantee that a certain item will become available online after record store day. it is possible they will have sold on the day and that there is no stock left.
on top of that, record store day is typically a massive shit show, with record shops not receiving most of the releases on time to sell them on record store day.
on multiple occasions i've visited record shops on the day, to see that nothing i wanted had even arrived. they then told me to try again in a couple of days. couple of days later: nothing. couple of weeks later: nothing. couple of months later: i find the release at discounted price at the same record shop. so they arrived eventually... by then i had already bought the damn thing online.
i'm not even going to try anymore to buy RSD releases in the shop on the day. always the same. i've had enough of this.
good news with the pixies is that none of their limited releases seem to sell out. or if they ever do, it takes months.
so everyone interested should be able to find a copy online without having to pay massive scalper markups.
or if you wait a bit longer, you might even find a bargain.
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Discoking
* Dog in the Sand *
Belgium
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Posted - 03/28/2025 : 05:20:32
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i might be completely wrong about this not selling out fast. but it is the strategy i'll be following: just try and find a copy online after RSD.
i've been stressing too much over previous pixies RSD releases, only to see them still for sale months later, each time.
same with that "come one pilgrim it's surfer rosa live in london" limited release on their website.
that was limited to 1,000 LPs and 1,000 CDs, and that took ages to sell out.
in fact, the CD still hasn't sold out: https://pixiesmerch.com/collections/music/products/come-on-pilgrim-its-surfer-rosa-live-in-london-cd lol
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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *
Austria
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Posted - 03/28/2025 : 07:08:12
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Thanks, that is very helpful!
I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band |
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auxfnx
- FB Fan -
Ireland
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Posted - 04/17/2025 : 04:13:21
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I'm so glad they released recordings from this tour, I felt it was one that definitely should be documented. I just received my copy today and Bossanova was pretty strong, but i'm listening to the Trompe LP now and I'm baffled by their selection of performances for this. Like, Alec Eiffel has Joey playing the harmony riff towards the end in totally the wrong key, the opening track is also quite rough, and various other points throughout other tracks are really rough and it just feels like they didn't necessarily pick the very best Trompe performances from the tour, which is disappointing considering how many shows they had to choose from. I really wanted this to be a nice alternative version of Trompe to listen to with the modern band but I don't know how much I will be returning to it now... It makes me wonder if there is some non-performance related / technical reason they chose these ones.
edit: further into my listen, the second side of Trompe is definitely a stronger batch of performances than the first side! |
Edited by - auxfnx on 04/17/2025 04:22:59 |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 04/18/2025 : 23:43:12
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Thanks for the review. The BN/TLM concert (Paris gig) was great, I loved hearing those rare songs, and Trompe is my favorite album by them. But the performance wasn't exactly stellar. Mainly because they kept slowing down the tempo (I blame Dave :( ) - obviously you can't expect a perfect perf when half the songs had never been played before, but I wondered how it would transcribe on record.
Now bring the TOTY live recording! THAT was a perfect gig.
Denis
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danjersey
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
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Mad Lucas
- FB Fan -
Australia
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Posted - 04/22/2025 : 19:26:58
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Originally posted by auxfnx
I'm so glad they released recordings from this tour, I felt it was one that definitely should be documented. I just received my copy today and Bossanova was pretty strong, but i'm listening to the Trompe LP now and I'm baffled by their selection of performances for this. Like, Alec Eiffel has Joey playing the harmony riff towards the end in totally the wrong key, the opening track is also quite rough, and various other points throughout other tracks are really rough and it just feels like they didn't necessarily pick the very best Trompe performances from the tour, which is disappointing considering how many shows they had to choose from. I really wanted this to be a nice alternative version of Trompe to listen to with the modern band but I don't know how much I will be returning to it now... It makes me wonder if there is some non-performance related / technical reason they chose these ones.
edit: further into my listen, the second side of Trompe is definitely a stronger batch of performances than the first side!
I jumped straight to Trompe after picking up the RSD release and like you I was very disappointed.
I actually feel quite taken for granted by the band on this one. They've released some pretty messy live recordings in the past, but they've been important concerts like the first Coachella or the Brixton concerts. But this was a really poor performance including, like you say, Joey playing an entire verse a fret off, FBF not finding his note, the band just all over the place. I'm still upset about it as you can probably tell.
Yes, this is a release for the completists and super fans, but in turn to release something at such a poor standard for that part of the fan base really feels like taking us for granted |
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auxfnx
- FB Fan -
Ireland
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Posted - 04/23/2025 : 01:17:34
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Yeah I recorded the Dublin gig I went to and while there are a few slip ups, some were not nearly as egregious as those that made it onto this release.
It's mad to me that this live album could go through the full mixing and mastering process without Tom Dalgety or anyone saying 'wait what's going on with these performances, we're pressing these?'
I can only wonder if Tom is not familiar enough with the original Trompe album to know where the mistakes are or, again, if there was some technical reason that limited them to using a particular concert... |
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/23/2025 : 09:43:45
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| Loved the London show I went to but noticed some of the tempo issues too. And I'm not sure BF ever got the intro to Trompe le Monde right on any of the recordings I've heard! |
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Mad Lucas
- FB Fan -
Australia
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Posted - 04/23/2025 : 09:55:40
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Originally posted by auxfnx
Yeah I recorded the Dublin gig I went to and while there are a few slip ups, some were not nearly as egregious as those that made it onto this release.
It's mad to me that this live album could go through the full mixing and mastering process without Tom Dalgety or anyone saying 'wait what's going on with these performances, we're pressing these?'
I can only wonder if Tom is not familiar enough with the original Trompe album to know where the mistakes are or, again, if there was some technical reason that limited them to using a particular concert...
Yes, I can't imagine how this slipped through, which leads me to think they don't care.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6281 Posts |
Posted - 04/24/2025 : 03:59:52
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Record Store Day itself could be a factor
- Do you have product? We want product!
- Oh no, you want something, here it is...
This is so disappointing. My two favorite Pixies records, not getting the attention they deserve... again
And yes, some things were totally off during the BossaTrompe-shows (I saw two of them). The bossanova-rhythm after the bridge was ill advised, although it was funny I guess. And the intro of Trompe Le Monde and the waltzing bridge were horrible. As if they gave up during rehearsals. Most of the songs were great though.
I'm seeing Pixies twice next week. Let's hope for the best.
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Skatealex1
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 05/30/2025 : 10:11:06
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| Looks like this is now on streaming. Gonna check it out on the road in a bit. |
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Troubles A Foot
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 05/31/2025 : 14:21:14
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Originally posted by auxfnx
i'm listening to the Trompe LP now and I'm baffled by their selection of performances for this. Like, Alec Eiffel has Joey playing the harmony riff towards the end in totally the wrong key
Finally listening to this. OUCH. Hard to hear. |
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 06/04/2025 : 07:49:24
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Man I am loving this thing
I'm not "professional musician" so I can't really tell what some hear are talking about
To me it just sounds like they are balling up the songs with differences from the studio versions - sounds fun
Like AOTW, Joey's guitar sounds totally different to me, no idea what he's doing
Love the cover art too
What a year in Pixies history this has been |
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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *
Austria
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Posted - 06/04/2025 : 08:51:24
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Listened to the stream with small headphones, so maybe my impression is biased because of that.
I think Frank's voice is way to strong in the mix. This is rather bad for the Bossanova part, because to me it seems he really does not care about singing here, or just sings in a very rough way, and therefore the great melodies and the subtle interplay of the instruments (in particular Joey's guitar) are totally lost.
With the exception of Alex Eiffel, I however enjoy the Trompe part. It still is the same problem with the dominant voice, but the rough singing largely goes well with the 'hard' Trompe songs.
But I think some of the audience recordings on Youtube are much better than this official version.
I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band |
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 06/04/2025 : 09:37:13
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| On Planet of Sound did he mess up or was he just doing some kind of Bob Dylan thing? |
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Troubles A Foot
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 06/04/2025 : 22:15:27
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Originally posted by Bedbug
I'm not "professional musician" so I can't really tell what some hear are talking about
Go to the end of Alec Eiffel. Listen to how Joey starts the guitar melody in the wrong place, so it is out of key with what the rest of the band is doing. You don't have to be a professional musician to hear when somebody is in the wrong key. The entire end of the song sounds like a mess, and not really in a cool punk way, but just hard to listen to.
I'm pretty shocked they'd release that. Haven't wanted to listen to the rest of this.
I'm actually considering selling my ticket to the Bossa/Trompe show in NYC in July. Not because of this recording exactly, but because no one wanted to go with me and I could use the money from selling the ticket, but hearing this doesn't really persuade me to go. That said, the Trompe and Bossa songs I heard them do in Queens last year were outstanding. But why pick an off night to release officially? Is Frank that indifferent to his own life's work? |
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Discoking
* Dog in the Sand *
Belgium
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Posted - 06/05/2025 : 04:53:32
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they released it on cd and lp too. not just spotify.
it's educational |
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/05/2025 : 05:28:35
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I was clinging onto hope the Spotify release would see some takes from different nights subbed in, but no. Glad I didn't pay for this.
Even an edit here and there would have tightened things up (Joey accidentally goes into 'All Over the World' at the start of 'Ana', for example.)
On the show I went to, it certainly seemed the Trompe material was less rehearsed, but it was a very good show overall.
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Troubles A Foot
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 06/05/2025 : 20:48:07
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Originally posted by Ziggy
Even an edit here and there would have tightened things up (Joey accidentally goes into 'All Over the World' at the start of 'Ana', for example.)
Oh my goodness. Listening now.
It feels cruel but we need to compile all the mistakes in this thing.
Scrolling through it. Palace of the Brine is really rough.
It's just an off night. It happens, but why choose this for release? I don't get it. |
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Skatealex1
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 06/06/2025 : 01:05:51
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I just don't get the sense that Frank cares about releases like this at this point. Maybe it's another thing to market with the Pixies or give to fans for whoever came up with the idea for it.
I do agree though it's a bizzare choice given that I'm sure there are better choices to choose from. Also looks like it was mixed by Tom Dalgety, I'd be curious if he's the one who chose the song takes for the album too. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Posted - 06/06/2025 : 02:42:35
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Didn't have the nerve to listen to this, but I'm curious now
First song to check out: The rough Palace of the Brine....
I actually enjoy this
Sounds like they are about the fall apart
Really works with the song
It's not GOOD, but it's cool
A lot of the live shows I've seen last couple of years are like this
Still, if every song is like this...ouch
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Posted - 06/06/2025 : 02:44:01
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Originally posted by Bedbug
On Planet of Sound did he mess up or was he just doing some kind of Bob Dylan thing?
my guess:
he messes up
and then I tries to make up for it
Love these weird bits.
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PIxies release for Record Store Day
