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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *

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Posted - 08/11/2019 :  11:37:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok, It got it. Donít ask me how. As a member of the Brotherhood of the Unknown, I am not meant to share my secrets. Only my feelings.
For information, I only listened to the first episode of the podcast and that was enough for me. I always skip the preface when I read a book now. I may come back to it when I finish the book in case I feel the need.
So. Iíll try not to spoil to much. But I will a little. You are warned. You have the choice.
Do what you will NOW.

Iíll make a ďliveĒ review. That is to say, Iíll write while listening to the songs for the first time.
So, excuse my broken English and the fact that Iíll be frank and donít blame the Messenger.

DON'T TRUST SPOILERS

Thank you and no hard feelings ;)


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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
5361 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2019 :  12:04:48  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Ok, so you like it a lot?

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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *

1021 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2019 :  12:11:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman

Ok, so you like it a lot?

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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
5361 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2019 :  21:39:48  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Can you describe Daniel Boone? Soundwise and lyrically?

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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *

1021 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2019 :  00:16:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
.........

quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman

Can you describe Daniel Boone? Soundwise and lyrically?

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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
5361 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2019 :  00:33:41  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Cool!

No Paz vocal? Co-lead?

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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
5361 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2019 :  00:35:57  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Thanks btw!



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TheScooper
- FB Fan -

USA
143 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2019 :  11:06:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cocteau Twins and Pixies are my two favorite bands, so hearing them used in the same sentence gets me a little hot and bothered
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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *

1021 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2019 :  11:53:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Time for spoiling is up.



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anazgnos
= Cult of Ray =

USA
378 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2019 :  12:33:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I found it out in the wild and I've been listening nonstop for the past week. I'll avoid specific "spoilery" comments or song notes and just speak generally...

I think it's really great. As a longtime fan who was generally skeptical of IC/HC, to me there's some serious Frank Black mojo coming back on this album. I don't think I've been as excited or engrossed by a batch of Charles tunes since the Bluefinger/Svn Fngrs era. It's also the first post-Kim Pixies album that really sounds like a functioning band, everyone has standout moments here. If Indie Cindy sounded like a bunch of hyper-processed protools demos and Head Carrier was an overpolished, supercompressed chunk of "modern rock", this album (while still fairly slick and produced) is comparatively ramshackle and homespun.

The low-key, quieter numbers are really where the record shines.

I don't know if it will be seen as a great return to form by the public at large or the rock media, but I think longtime deep Frank heads might get some really good vibes off this album.

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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
5361 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2019 :  19:17:58  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Thanks!

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The Maharal
= Cult of Ray =

879 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2019 :  22:46:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One of the later tracks is quintessential Charles Thompson IV. Amazing. Really love the opening track too - Dave's drumming sounds great. After Catfish there's a bit of a lull though. I won't go into too much detail other than saying it reminded me a bit too much of his songs in the Lee Hazlewood album and also bloody Smash Mouth but I'm pretty sure further listens will make me appreciate them more.
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Bedbug
* Dog in the Sand *

2420 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2019 :  23:29:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks team!
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 08/17/2019 :  00:01:11  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by anazgnos

I found it out in the wild and I've been listening nonstop for the past week. I'll avoid specific "spoilery" comments or song notes and just speak generally...

I think it's really great. As a longtime fan who was generally skeptical of IC/HC, to me there's some serious Frank Black mojo coming back on this album. I don't think I've been as excited or engrossed by a batch of Charles tunes since the Bluefinger/Svn Fngrs era. It's also the first post-Kim Pixies album that really sounds like a functioning band, everyone has standout moments here. If Indie Cindy sounded like a bunch of hyper-processed protools demos and Head Carrier was an overpolished, supercompressed chunk of "modern rock", this album (while still fairly slick and produced) is comparatively ramshackle and homespun.

The low-key, quieter numbers are really where the record shines.

I don't know if it will be seen as a great return to form by the public at large or the rock media, but I think longtime deep Frank heads might get some really good vibes off this album.



This is actually very high praise
Bluefinger and SVN FNGRS are pure gold


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pot
> Teenager of the Year <

Iceland
3279 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2019 :  15:11:31  Show Profile  Visit pot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Catfish Kate is just so lame. Lame! I like it but it's lame. I'm not no longer interested in anything else. It's like a Pixies song that an algorithm from the future could come up with?

I can't expect anything else I suppose since music is limited in what it can be.

Next album they'll join the 90's alternative bands doing 80's synth rock and pop just like it sounded in the 80's bandwagon. Looking forward to that.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <

Iceland
3279 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2019 :  15:13:22  Show Profile  Visit pot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Sorry there's too many new Pixies album threads going and I've been on Sabbatical so I decided to share my views on Catfish Kate on this thread. Feel free to carry on discussing the technical nuances of Joey's guitar
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The Maharal
= Cult of Ray =

879 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2019 :  22:59:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wouldn't consider this better than Bluefinger. However, I expect some critics will be calling this a long lost Catholics album. Some of it reminds me a lot of Show Me Your Tears. Very much a kiss-off album.

Edited by - The Maharal on 08/17/2019 23:00:50
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
5361 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2019 :  23:51:56  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Have you read the Record Collector interview (in another thread)
The writer also connects it with SMYT

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Bedbug
* Dog in the Sand *

2420 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2019 :  04:02:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pot

Catfish Kate is just so lame. Lame! I like it but it's lame. I'm not no longer interested in anything else. It's like a Pixies song that an algorithm from the future could come up with?

I can't expect anything else I suppose since music is limited in what it can be.

Next album they'll join the 90's alternative bands doing 80's synth rock and pop just like it sounded in the 80's bandwagon. Looking forward to that.



Honest take.

I dig it, in the current context
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Troubles A Foot
= Cult of Ray =

USA
361 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2019 :  06:35:25  Show Profile  Visit Troubles A Foot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Maharal

Wouldn't consider this better than Bluefinger. However, I expect some critics will be calling this a long lost Catholics album. Some of it reminds me a lot of Show Me Your Tears. Very much a kiss-off album.




As I thought HC was a Catholics album and nobody agreed with me, and I thought IC was a proper Pixies album and everyone said HC was the "come back album", is this one going to sound nothing like a Catholics album and everyone will call it that, just to drive me insane?
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
5361 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2019 :  08:59:51  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
HC was like The Golem, and very Catholics from time to time
Still, I don't think Talent, Baal's Back or Classic Masher sound like The Catholics

IC is very Pixies, signature Joey everyway

I just think that HC is better and more to the point
Don't like the vocals on IC and the songs are too long

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The Maharal
= Cult of Ray =

879 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2019 :  09:23:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman

Have you read the Record Collector interview (in another thread)
The writer also connects it with SMYT

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Yeah read it afterwards. I think the songwriting is more in line with the Catholics and Honeycomb. There's a lot of lyrics centred around his divorce. I guess some of the music is a bit country-ish too (Death Horizon is lovely and it'd fit snugly on SMYT and Honeycomb).

I'm hearing hints of New House of the Pope, SSMVGD, Goodbye Lorraine, etc.

But then there are some tracks a bit more standard Pixies, one which might bring to mind Another Toe, another sounding a bit like Violent Femmes' Hallowed Ground, another a big beautiful slice of black-pop.

It's an interesting album, not sure where I stand with it yet.
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *

1010 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2019 :  11:10:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by anazgnos

I found it out in the wild and I've been listening nonstop for the past week. I'll avoid specific "spoilery" comments or song notes and just speak generally...

I think it's really great. As a longtime fan who was generally skeptical of IC/HC, to me there's some serious Frank Black mojo coming back on this album. I don't think I've been as excited or engrossed by a batch of Charles tunes since the Bluefinger/Svn Fngrs era. It's also the first post-Kim Pixies album that really sounds like a functioning band, everyone has standout moments here. If Indie Cindy sounded like a bunch of hyper-processed protools demos and Head Carrier was an overpolished, supercompressed chunk of "modern rock", this album (while still fairly slick and produced) is comparatively ramshackle and homespun.

The low-key, quieter numbers are really where the record shines.

I don't know if it will be seen as a great return to form by the public at large or the rock media, but I think longtime deep Frank heads might get some really good vibes off this album.



I just fired up a PTP client for the first item in about 10 years....and well, wow, it really is out there...

Resisted the urge to download. I waited 20+ years between TLM and Bagboy, I can hang on a few more weeks.
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Stevio10
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
909 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2019 :  03:17:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For those who have heard it, how does St. Nazaire sound?
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The Maharal
= Cult of Ray =

879 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2019 :  08:59:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I like it a lot, it's one of the better tracks on the album, albeit with the caveat that it owes a hell of a lot to the Clash.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <

Iceland
3279 Posts

Posted - 08/20/2019 :  09:48:25  Show Profile  Visit pot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bedbug

Honest take.

I dig it, in the current context



I just feel that the new stuff is bordering on self-parody, but not necessarilly in a terrible way.
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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =

USA
805 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2019 :  19:29:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Found it and didnít want to wait any longer. Iíve already ordered 2 like a good fan should. Listened through a few times. Itís good, quite different to me. Donít want to say much until everyone else has it. But, Daniel Boone is surprisingly beautiful. Doesnít sound like a Pixies song but it kinda washes over you. Curious how people will feel about it. Band sounds very cohesive, like others mentioned. And itís always great to have a batch of new BF tunes to chew on. The man is a national treasure.
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Skatealex1
* Dog in the Sand *

1630 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2019 :  22:28:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not sure how I feel about the album overall yet. Like some are saying it seems kind of more like a Catholics album to me than Pixies. I'll say on first listen Daniel Boone is definitely a stand out to me though.
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Stevio10
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
909 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2019 :  23:43:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What kind of era of Catholics does it remind people of? First 2 albums or DITS onwards? Nadine, Hermaphrodites, Whiskey in shoes rocking Catholics or intricate numbers like Dog in the Sand, St Francis Dam etc...just curious on thoughts

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Skatealex1
* Dog in the Sand *

1630 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2019 :  23:50:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm thinking along the lines of Show Me Your Tears era with some tracks from first listen.

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sdon
= Cult of Ray =

France
764 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2019 :  00:22:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So far, BTE is disappointing because it's too short, and some songs are too unamibitious / harmless for my taste

But vocally, BF is doing great, and I love most vocal harmonies and subtleties, Paz's contribution is really valuable
This is my Fate, Long Rider, Los Surfers Muertos, Bird of Prey and Death Horizon are the real gems for me
The singles (On Graveyard Hill and Catfish Kate) are not good indicators of the overall tone of the album

I really hope the left-overs / demos quench my Pixies thirst more


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yarbles
= Cult of Ray =

USA
565 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2019 :  09:00:11  Show Profile  Visit yarbles's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Having not heard the album yet, but going off of what was just said... I wish the band/producer didnít feel the need to limit each new album to only 12 songs. Come on, give us 14-15 like we all know they can!
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Bedbug
* Dog in the Sand *

2420 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2019 :  09:22:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Skatealex1

I'm thinking along the lines of Show Me Your Tears era with some tracks from first listen.



Haven't heard the album yet other than the first two singles, but this statement is not what I want to be hearing. SMYT, while fine FB&C's stuff, is not what I would choose 2.0 to sound like. Imagine a 2.0 album where people say, "reminds me of TOTY or Bluefinger."
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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =

USA
805 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2019 :  09:36:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by yarbles

Having not heard the album yet, but going off of what was just said... I wish the band/producer didnít feel the need to limit each new album to only 12 songs. Come on, give us 14-15 like we all know they can!



Agreed, especially when they are shorter songs in general. This album is 39 minutes. 6-7 more wouldnít hurt at all.
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sdon
= Cult of Ray =

France
764 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2019 :  10:24:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by natenate101

quote:
Originally posted by yarbles

Having not heard the album yet, but going off of what was just said... I wish the band/producer didnít feel the need to limit each new album to only 12 songs. Come on, give us 14-15 like we all know they can!



Agreed, especially when they are shorter songs in general. This album is 39 minutes. 6-7 more wouldnít hurt at all.



Exactly
Suffering from Pixies deprivation
Dalgety is cruel
Especially now I know some of those demos are better than, say, Ready for Love

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Brank_Flack
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
714 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2019 :  16:56:55  Show Profile  Click to see Brank_Flack's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I've got to disagree - I think 39 minutes is perfect for a pop/rock record. It's okay to go beyond it if one is attempting to make an album that prides itself on eclecticism (White Album/London Calling/TOTY) or wants to be an ambituous 'statement' album (OK Computer), but otherwise many albums in the 50 minute range suffer from bloat. The extended release means you get both a concise/snappy album with minimal filler, +9 songs to satiate one's appetite. Sounds great to me!
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