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> Teenager of the Year <
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
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> Teenager of the Year <
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> Teenager of the Year <
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
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 Posted - 04/20/2018 : 02:32:31
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| Now wondering how they hell do they do Gigantic. |
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 04/20/2018 : 02:53:28
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| So they are releasing CoP and SR as one album? |
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 04/20/2018 : 03:12:43
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| It's been sold as a combined CD for quite a while. Actually I don't know if COP was ever released on CD. I had them both on vinyl back in the day. |
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 04/20/2018 : 03:58:18
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| Those two album covers make them seem like one album anyway, or a double album. Plus they sound so similar. |
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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
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Posted - 04/20/2018 : 04:10:20
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I have a COP CD, but it was bought after I lost or wore out COP/Surfer Rosa a couple of times.
This would be a good time for 4AD to release a Pure Audio Blu Ray version to match Doolittle!!! |
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stuczuba
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 04/20/2018 : 05:50:08
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Originally posted by Sprite
Now wondering how they hell do they do Gigantic.
Crowd sing along gets my vote.
Or Dave. |
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yarbles
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 04/20/2018 : 09:16:49
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| Maybe they just play video of Kim doing Gigantic from one of her recent Breeders gigs and the band go backstage for a pee break while it plays. |
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Stevio10
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/21/2018 : 04:40:36
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| I guess that means no new album this year if the promotion of these shows are to go by. |
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pixie punk
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 04/21/2018 : 05:03:20
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Stevio10 new álbum is in the works.The special shows in London are most likely a celebration before they go on their holidays vacation with their families as they always do.They'll have plenty of time to tour the new récord in the summer and hopefully play more COP + S.Rosa shows around the world.
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stuczuba
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 04/21/2018 : 05:07:10
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I've not seen anything to suggest a tour (yet) - could be that these 5 shows are a one-off fund raiser to pay for studio time/next album stuff :/
Does this mean there is the possibility of a Bossa/Trompe night at some point in the future? |
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 04/21/2018 : 06:44:27
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| Joey posted an advert for the shows on twitter saying 'coming to a city near ye' |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
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Posted - 04/21/2018 : 08:14:32
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Originally posted by stuczuba
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Originally posted by Sprite
Now wondering how they hell do they do Gigantic.
Crowd sing along gets my vote.
Or Dave.
I got drunk and sang the chorus lines to Gigantic one night at The Rat Pack piano bar in Edinburgh. Guy on the piano doing covers: I asked for Pixies, turned out he was a massive fan and did 5 Pixies songs that night including All Over The World.
Singing along drunk to Gigantic is enormous fun and I think this kind of dynamic would work well in the Roundhouse. |
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pixie punk
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 04/21/2018 : 14:41:35
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A Kim Hologram? Don't think so,they don't follow trends :)
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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *
Belgium
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Posted - 04/21/2018 : 21:59:51
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Originally posted by stuczuba
Does this mean there is the possibility of a Bossa/Trompe night at some point in the future?
No. Goal is to fill venues.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 04/22/2018 : 03:31:34
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Does this mean there is the possibility of a Bossa/Trompe night at some point in the future?
No. Goal is to fill venues.
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I'd say there's a market for that too. |
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stuczuba
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 04/22/2018 : 04:43:21
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Originally posted by pot
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Originally posted by picpic
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Originally posted by stuczuba
Does this mean there is the possibility of a Bossa/Trompe night at some point in the future?
No. Goal is to fill venues.
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I'd say there's a market for that too.
I think so, The Fax Anniversary tour. With EDF. |
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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *
Belgium
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Posted - 04/23/2018 : 00:53:54
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I'd say there's a market for that too.
I'd say those albums are nearly equally disregarded by the standard Pixies audience than FB solo work.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
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Posted - 04/23/2018 : 01:56:14
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Originally posted by pot
I'd say there's a market for that too.
I'd say those albums are nearly equally disregarded by the standard Pixies audience than FB solo work.
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I'd say there are enough fans of those albums to do anniversary tours. |
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stuczuba
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 04/23/2018 : 02:52:17
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http://4ad.co/PIXIES30th
In addition to these special shows, 4AD will be releasing a 30th Anniversary deluxe edition of the album entitled Come On Pilgrim...it’s Surfer Rosa on August 24th 2018. More information to be released soon.
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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *
Belgium
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Posted - 04/23/2018 : 03:58:33
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Awesome troll title.
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jake3
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Posted - 04/23/2018 : 08:23:58
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| Ooo... Fingers crossed for something new!! |
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 04/23/2018 : 09:08:45
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Yeah, not a fan of that marketing move, although it does remind me of that sticker that was on the Orangelo album.
There was a while there where they could have marketed the band by saying "the Pixies do little" |
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pmjk
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Posted - 04/23/2018 : 21:54:19
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Come On Pilgrim...it’s Surfer Rosa
Would this not be the perfect time to release "Watch What You're Doing"?
If not now, then never.
If the only copy is by now unplayable, should they re-record it?
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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *
Belgium
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Posted - 04/23/2018 : 22:50:49
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Good idea.
And the Trompe "widow tracks" as a bonus.
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Sam
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
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Posted - 04/24/2018 : 01:52:19
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Originally posted by stuczuba
I've not seen anything to suggest a tour (yet) - could be that these 5 shows are a one-off fund raiser to pay for studio time/next album stuff :/
Does this mean there is the possibility of a Bossa/Trompe night at some point in the future?
We have had nearly all COP & SR songs through every reunion show so far since 2004. I'm going to the roundhouse but I hope they play new stuff too.
It will be a great few nights i'm sure, but I personally would much rather bossa & trompe played in full just for variations sake.
Unfortunately the lazy narrative is that these two and Doolittle are the definitive Pixies, which is total crap of course but lazy writers stalk the land.
Hopefully we will some new stuff before Nov 18.....
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 04/24/2018 : 04:18:49
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Originally posted by Sam
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Originally posted by stuczuba
I've not seen anything to suggest a tour (yet) - could be that these 5 shows are a one-off fund raiser to pay for studio time/next album stuff :/
Does this mean there is the possibility of a Bossa/Trompe night at some point in the future?
We have had nearly all COP & SR songs through every reunion show so far since 2004. I'm going to the roundhouse but I hope they play new stuff too.
It will be a great few nights i'm sure, but I personally would much rather bossa & trompe played in full just for variations sake.
Unfortunately the lazy narrative is that these two and Doolittle are the definitive Pixies, which is total crap of course but lazy writers stalk the land.
Hopefully we will some new stuff before Nov 18.....
Well said Sam.
Hope you enjoy the show, and please any one who goes please give us your reports.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Posted - 04/24/2018 : 05:12:02
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Originally posted by picpic
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Originally posted by pot
I'd say there's a market for that too.
I'd say those albums are nearly equally disregarded by the standard Pixies audience than FB solo work.
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This is not the case if you ask me. Bossa and Trompe are canon. The reunited Pixies don’t focus on those records for personal reasons. The band was under pressure and eventuele falling apart falling apart during 1990-1993. Reviews and adoration from fans were still sky high. Rightfully so.
It’s just easier (mentally and technically) to play songs from the first records. Marketing and lazy journalism resulted in SR and Doolittle are the two classics. I have never read that statement before 2004.
Maybe I’m wrong though.
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 04/24/2018 : 05:25:56
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Bossanova had just come out right when I first became a fan, and everything I heard was basically "not as good as Surfer and Doolittle." At the time I agreed.
When Trompe came out and me and my friends bought it at Record Town, we liked it, and reviews at the time were positive, but again there was a lot of "SR and D are the best."
Now of course I think Trompe is probably his / their single best album. But it seems like a lot of the songs are not a fit with 2.0, or even with the revived 1.0 in 2004.
Whatever the circumstances of those songs, and whatever they meant to FB and company at the time, I'm guessing all of us have thought about them / listened to them 1000s of times more than they have. (That's what I think every time I listen to Fazer Eyes. He's played it live like what, fewer than 10 times? if that? And I listen to it every week since 94).
If they do do a Trompe anniversary tour they absolutely should have EDF as a member of the band. And still people will be yelling for HCYM or whatever else they heard on the radio at the dentist.
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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *
Belgium
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Posted - 04/24/2018 : 22:08:27
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Originally posted by billgoodman
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Originally posted by picpic
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Originally posted by pot
I'd say there's a market for that too.
I'd say those albums are nearly equally disregarded by the standard Pixies audience than FB solo work.
This is not the case if you ask me. Bossa and Trompe are canon. The reunited Pixies don’t focus on those records for personal reasons. The band was under pressure and eventuele falling apart falling apart during 1990-1993. Reviews and adoration from fans were still sky high. Rightfully so.
It’s just easier (mentally and technically) to play songs from the first records. Marketing and lazy journalism resulted in SR and Doolittle are the two classics. I have never read that statement before 2004.
Maybe I’m wrong though.
I wasn't including myself in the standard Pixies audience. Trompe Le Monde is a fucking masterpiece (regardless how it was recorded) and Bossa is not far behind.
I never really understood why they discarded many of the best tracks from those albums since the reunion. Maybe they need keyboards on them. Or a second guitar. Or they just base their judgment on crowd reaction, discarding the least crowd-shaking numbers (like they did with some IC songs). Maybe it would be a cruel disappointment to hear modern renditions of Bird Dream, Letter to Memphis, Palae of the Brine or Trompe Le Monde. Maybe they took the right decision leaving those songs alone ? I don't know. I still consider those as the Holy Grail.
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stuczuba
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Posted - 04/25/2018 : 00:44:06
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Originally posted by picpic
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Originally posted by billgoodman
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Originally posted by picpic
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Originally posted by pot
I'd say there's a market for that too.
I'd say those albums are nearly equally disregarded by the standard Pixies audience than FB solo work.
This is not the case if you ask me. Bossa and Trompe are canon. The reunited Pixies don’t focus on those records for personal reasons. The band was under pressure and eventuele falling apart falling apart during 1990-1993. Reviews and adoration from fans were still sky high. Rightfully so.
It’s just easier (mentally and technically) to play songs from the first records. Marketing and lazy journalism resulted in SR and Doolittle are the two classics. I have never read that statement before 2004.
Maybe I’m wrong though.
I wasn't including myself in the standard Pixies audience. Trompe Le Monde is a fucking masterpiece (regardless how it was recorded) and Bossa is not far behind.
I never really understood why they discarded many of the best tracks from those albums since the reunion. Maybe they need keyboards on them. Or a second guitar. Or they just base their judgment on crowd reaction, discarding the least crowd-shaking numbers (like they did with some IC songs). Maybe it would be a cruel disappointment to hear modern renditions of Bird Dream, Letter to Memphis, Palae of the Brine or Trompe Le Monde. Maybe they took the right decision leaving those songs alone ? I don't know. I still consider those as the Holy Grail.
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Can't judge a crowd response if you don't play it. I can't help feeling they're going to need to play some of that stuff they've been avoiding if only to stop the live show becoming completely stale.
There are only 2 songs across Pilgrim/SR/DL that I've not already seen them play and I'm assuming they're going to play them in these dates. As much as I like seeing them, who's going to keeping spending to see the same set over and over? |
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 04/25/2018 : 08:26:34
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Originally posted by picpic
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Originally posted by billgoodman
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Originally posted by picpic
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Originally posted by pot
I'd say there's a market for that too.
I'd say those albums are nearly equally disregarded by the standard Pixies audience than FB solo work.
This is not the case if you ask me. Bossa and Trompe are canon. The reunited Pixies don’t focus on those records for personal reasons. The band was under pressure and eventuele falling apart falling apart during 1990-1993. Reviews and adoration from fans were still sky high. Rightfully so.
It’s just easier (mentally and technically) to play songs from the first records. Marketing and lazy journalism resulted in SR and Doolittle are the two classics. I have never read that statement before 2004.
Maybe I’m wrong though.
I wasn't including myself in the standard Pixies audience. Trompe Le Monde is a fucking masterpiece (regardless how it was recorded) and Bossa is not far behind.
I never really understood why they discarded many of the best tracks from those albums since the reunion. Maybe they need keyboards on them. Or a second guitar. Or they just base their judgment on crowd reaction, discarding the least crowd-shaking numbers (like they did with some IC songs). Maybe it would be a cruel disappointment to hear modern renditions of Bird Dream, Letter to Memphis, Palae of the Brine or Trompe Le Monde. Maybe they took the right decision leaving those songs alone ? I don't know. I still consider those as the Holy Grail.
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Trompe indeed is a masterpiece. Of interest is how old Subbacultcha is and the fact that he was able to incorporate it into this new perfect piece of work. Just the sort of stuff that David Lynch does with his films.
And great point about "cruel disappointment." Few lives versions of Motorway do it for me the way the studio version does. Maybe better to let some of Trompe lay hidden away like the grail. |
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 04/25/2018 : 08:27:35
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Originally posted by stuczuba
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Originally posted by picpic
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Originally posted by billgoodman
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Originally posted by picpic
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Originally posted by pot
I'd say there's a market for that too.
I'd say those albums are nearly equally disregarded by the standard Pixies audience than FB solo work.
This is not the case if you ask me. Bossa and Trompe are canon. The reunited Pixies don’t focus on those records for personal reasons. The band was under pressure and eventuele falling apart falling apart during 1990-1993. Reviews and adoration from fans were still sky high. Rightfully so.
It’s just easier (mentally and technically) to play songs from the first records. Marketing and lazy journalism resulted in SR and Doolittle are the two classics. I have never read that statement before 2004.
Maybe I’m wrong though.
I wasn't including myself in the standard Pixies audience. Trompe Le Monde is a fucking masterpiece (regardless how it was recorded) and Bossa is not far behind.
I never really understood why they discarded many of the best tracks from those albums since the reunion. Maybe they need keyboards on them. Or a second guitar. Or they just base their judgment on crowd reaction, discarding the least crowd-shaking numbers (like they did with some IC songs). Maybe it would be a cruel disappointment to hear modern renditions of Bird Dream, Letter to Memphis, Palae of the Brine or Trompe Le Monde. Maybe they took the right decision leaving those songs alone ? I don't know. I still consider those as the Holy Grail.
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Can't judge a crowd response if you don't play it. I can't help feeling they're going to need to play some of that stuff they've been avoiding if only to stop the live show becoming completely stale.
There are only 2 songs across Pilgrim/SR/DL that I've not already seen them play and I'm assuming they're going to play them in these dates. As much as I like seeing them, who's going to keeping spending to see the same set over and over?
If they would just sprinkle in some FB tunes that would do the trick too. |
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