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night on my side
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 Posted - 09/12/2003 : 12:01:17
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Originally posted by mun chien andalusia
That's what you think when you are 20 or 25...I'm pretty sure that FB is enjoying himself with the catholics on a music level but how about money?In his solo career never gained financial success...Consider that he is not only a Rock Star but a human being and an adult person too,so he could reunite the Pixies just to buy a new car,pay for his divorce or whatever other reason that he can't afford with the sales of his current group...Probably he would hate a reunion since he didn't talk about the Pixies for years after they broke up,and he started playing Pixies songs relatively lately but i'm sure that he would reform them too if he was forced by his finances...Sadly adult life isn't all about enjoying yourself and sometimes you have to do things you hate in order to survive...
"Protect me from what i want"
I'm 28.
I'm also a musician.
I've been playing shows and writing my own music for the last 10 years.
If Frank were to reunite the Pixies for financial or publicity reasons I think I'd fucking vomit. I don't give a jolly goddamn what you think adult life is about; MUSIC is not life.
And I'm sure there are plenty of other loathsome things FB could do for money without having to resort to reuniting the Pixies, if that's not what he wants to do.
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leokearse
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/12/2003 : 12:56:32
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Anybody who says that money isn't important has obviously never been skint.
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =
Italy
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Posted - 09/12/2003 : 15:58:13
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Originally posted by night on my side
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Originally posted by mun chien andalusia
That's what you think when you are 20 or 25...I'm pretty sure that FB is enjoying himself with the catholics on a music level but how about money?In his solo career never gained financial success...Consider that he is not only a Rock Star but a human being and an adult person too,so he could reunite the Pixies just to buy a new car,pay for his divorce or whatever other reason that he can't afford with the sales of his current group...Probably he would hate a reunion since he didn't talk about the Pixies for years after they broke up,and he started playing Pixies songs relatively lately but i'm sure that he would reform them too if he was forced by his finances...Sadly adult life isn't all about enjoying yourself and sometimes you have to do things you hate in order to survive...
"Protect me from what i want"
I'm 28.
I'm also a musician.
I've been playing shows and writing my own music for the last 10 years.
If Frank were to reunite the Pixies for financial or publicity reasons I think I'd fucking vomit. I don't give a jolly goddamn what you think adult life is about; MUSIC is not life.
And I'm sure there are plenty of other loathsome things FB could do for money without having to resort to reuniting the Pixies, if that's not what he wants to do.
Holiday
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That's good for you and fine with me but don't expect that everyone thinks it that way.George Best sold his Cups for a house for example and there is an infinite list of stars doing lame things for money...
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massif snake
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/12/2003 : 16:13:09
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who gives a fuck why they are re-uiniting, if at all. i just hope they are, as i guess many fans, inculding me, aren't old enough to have seen the pixies back in the day. so this is the only fucking chance we got.
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PixieSteve
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Poland
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Posted - 09/12/2003 : 16:16:25
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 09/12/2003 : 21:05:47
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Im at a loss to understand why so many people are so vehemently opposed to this? And who cares what the financial backstory may be? Who cares? WHO CARES??? I don't think Frank would mind if Charles traded him for a few months with Mr. Francis. And how would this hurt SMYT? April is 7 months away...and by that time SMYT will have slipped from #2 to #5 on Billboard by then. Duh. Maybe he wants to jam with his old pals again. Maybe he does need money (D-I-V-O-R-C-E). Again...WHO CARES??? I don't see it as a 'sell-out' in any way. And why is no one (not that it matters) bringing up the fact that Kim Deal is 'selling out? Her group is MUCH more popular?! To the negative people here: You Need To Go Get Laid. It's the PIXIES for goodness sake!!! Cheer up or go burn your Beatle albums!!!
Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown
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the swimmer
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 09/12/2003 : 22:07:20
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Originally posted by TRANSMARINE
Im at a loss to understand why so many people are so vehemently opposed to this? And who cares what the financial backstory may be? Who cares? WHO CARES??? I don't think Frank would mind if Charles traded him for a few months with Mr. Francis. And how would this hurt SMYT? April is 7 months away...and by that time SMYT will have slipped from #2 to #5 on Billboard by then. Duh. Maybe he wants to jam with his old pals again. Maybe he does need money (D-I-V-O-R-C-E). Again...WHO CARES??? I don't see it as a 'sell-out' in any way. And why is no one (not that it matters) bringing up the fact that Kim Deal is 'selling out? Her group is MUCH more popular?! To the negative people here: You Need To Go Get Laid. It's the PIXIES for goodness sake!!! Cheer up or go burn your Beatle albums!!!
Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown
-bRIAN
I'm not negative and I do get laid. Ask your boyfriend.
Just kidding, but I LOVE the Pixies. I just know it won't happen and if it does, it's a shame. |
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night on my side
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Posted - 09/12/2003 : 22:08:40
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Originally posted by massif snake
who gives a fuck why they are re-uiniting, if at all.
I do.
If they're doing it and not enjoying it the music will suffer. I remember what happened when the Velvet Underground had a reunion in 1993.
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Sheamus
= Cult of Ray =
Australia
345 Posts |
Posted - 09/12/2003 : 22:30:17
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leokearse
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/13/2003 : 02:37:24
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I'm pretty sure they'll enjoy it. Money, adulation, playing the best songs ever written for people who love them - all seems like a larf to me.
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ivandivel
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 09/13/2003 : 02:46:03
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Sheamus
= Cult of Ray =
Australia
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Posted - 09/13/2003 : 05:11:46
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Originally posted by night on my side
I'm 28.
I'm also a musician.
I've been playing shows and writing my own music for the last 10 years.
Why did you post this? It doesn't make your opinion any more right/wrong than anyone elses. I know musicians who are older and have been writing and playing music for longer than 10 years, and they think that a Pixies reunion would be spectacular. It doesn't mean their opinion has any more credibilty than yours, just as yours holds no more weight than any other Pixies/Frank Black fan here.
An opinion is an opinion |
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ShakeyShake
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1058 Posts |
Posted - 09/13/2003 : 06:51:16
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Originally posted by misleadtheworld
if the pixies reunited they would be shot up into stardom like janes addiction have after them reuniting. the catholics would be rendered partially obselete because people would just want more pixies. i think anyway?
i dont think frank would want to do that.
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If they did reunite thats the 1 thing i'd be scared of,that suddenly they would be shot up into stardom and the sun would shine out of their arses and they'd be the new "it."Then you'd get all the little trend followers who haven't got a brain cell to share exclaiming about how much they love the pixies and how they have alllll their albums etc etc.
I'm not against new fans of the pixies,hell i used to be one but i never got into the pixies because i thought they'd elevate my social status
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ShakeyShake
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/13/2003 : 06:52:33
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So fuck the media
My bone used to have a little machine,i must have misplaced it |
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vegan
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 09/13/2003 : 23:54:27
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"Black Francis is dead and buried."
Get over it; they're both psuedo-identities; whatever he does, he's the foreman. He wrote almost all of the songs for the Pixies and of the songs since. Whatever he does, you'll consume it, and so will I. You wouldn't take the time to state otherwise.
FB rocks and so do the Pixies. I embrace whatever the man decides to do, and so does every other true fan. |
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night on my side
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 09/14/2003 : 13:35:34
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Originally posted by Sheamus
Why did you post this? It doesn't make your opinion any more right/wrong than anyone elses. I know musicians who are older and have been writing and playing music for longer than 10 years, and they think that a Pixies reunion would be spectacular. It doesn't mean their opinion has any more credibilty than yours, just as yours holds no more weight than any other Pixies/Frank Black fan here.
An opinion is an opinion
First of all, I didn't say a Pixies reunion wouldn't be spectacular. I said it would suck if they did it without really wanting to.
In my heart I hope it does happen, but I want it to be for the right reason.
And no, non-musicians simply do not understand what it's like to create music and play it in front of other people, or how it feels dealing with those people's expectations when what they want is not what you want to do as an artist.
Not to be a total asshole, but I do not agree that every opinion is equally valid.
Oh, and if you had taken the time to read my post, which you quoted, in its entirety you would know that the comments about my age were in response to assumptions made by another member.
Holiday
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ShakeyShake
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/14/2003 : 15:49:13
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C'mon we're all on the same side here.
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ShakeyShake
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/14/2003 : 15:50:30
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Notice how i used apostrophes in all the right places there?Yeah your right I am just seeking approval
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Sheamus
= Cult of Ray =
Australia
345 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2003 : 04:11:34
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First of all, I didn't say a Pixies reunion wouldn't be spectacular. I said it would suck if they did it without really wanting to.
In my heart I hope it does happen, but I want it to be for the right reason.
That's fair enough, I'm sure it would be for the right reasons though.
And no, non-musicians simply do not understand what it's like to create music and play it in front of other people, or how it feels dealing with those people's expectations when what they want is not what you want to do as an artist.
I would't say this. What you're describing is a common human experience shared by all kinds of people in different asspects of life. The same kind of situations and feelings associated with these situation can happen in a range of pursuits. Writing, art, film, even things like gardening and architecture I'm guessing. The list is endless. The kind of experience you're talking about (giving people your work/art and then dealing with their expectations/criticism) isn't restricted to music. I'm sure that many people can relate to this kind of situation in some way or another. Whether or not they recognise this in regardsthe current FB situation we're all talking about is another story. I'm sure many do though, so I think it IS possible for a non-musician to know and relate to what he is going through.
Not to be a total asshole, but I do not agree that every opinion is equally valid.
I agree. Note that I specified Pixies and Frank Black fans who post on this forum's opinions. I think most of us care enough and know enough about the band to be on a fairly equal level here. I'm not talking about Joe MTV out on the street who heard that this Pixies were cool "cuz Dave Grohl said it". It's basically die hard fans in here.
Oh, and if you had taken the time to read my post, which you quoted, in its entirety you would know that the comments about my age were in response to assumptions made by another member.
Right, my mistake. I thought you were playing the "I'm older and a more experienced musician" card to try and substantiate your opinion as more valid. |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/15/2003 : 10:17:33
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My my, how these rumours are changing the atmosphere in here. There is so much anger now. I don't like it. I just wanna get along!
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blarg007
= Cult of Ray =
USA
493 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2003 : 10:33:58
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i am going to have my semi/x girlfriend consult the i-ching on this matter
-with specific questions such as will they play dates in australia etc.
as i have seen the i-ching method work with deadly accuracy before and
frankly all that goes on around here is current band lovers VS. pixies lovers.
-Frank is starting to talk and act like an old man -he certainly isn't but
lately his quotes seem to be including things along the lines of ..'i'm
getting old now'...and that makes me think that a minimal one off pixies
thing is possible but still not very likely -but when he is in rip-snortin'
mode you could see him saying yeah why not do an album, tour etc.
i'm refering recently to when i browsed some rolling stones issues
(the actual paper ones)i saw that he did a guest revue thing of some singles,
he said he couldn't understand the vocals on one and offered the explanation
that he was probably getting old.
i like the new LP (SMYT) but as i hear it it seems very safe and sentimental
and if you ask me it is a conscience effort to offer something so steeped
in classic americana that he becomes wildly popular overseas.
it just seems like a safe and sound business direction to increase market audience
to me a pixies re-union could offer a forum for Frank the dangerous
instead of Frank the safe.
the benefits of that longstanding legend the pixies would definitely put him in a place
where simply being good is the main prerequesite -fuckall elses as far as tone and content
-so long as it soars.
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Sheamus
= Cult of Ray =
Australia
345 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2003 : 10:43:15
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"i am going to have my semi/x girlfriend consult the i-ching on this matter
-with specific questions such as will they play dates in australia etc."
Excellent idea 007! Thanks! Two questions though:
a) What is the i-ching?
b) Is it as credible a source as my dream?
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blarg007
= Cult of Ray =
USA
493 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2003 : 10:59:27
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yes it is credible -look it up on the web.
it involves either coins or sticks dropped randomly (after focusing on your question)
and the way they fall directs you to certain sections of a book called 'the book of changes'
which was written over many years in China quite a long time ago by ancient wise men.
the theory is that because random varables can effect the real world by known/unknown
forces that a method of divining the possibilities of outcome could be accurate by
abiding to a seemingly random formula which re-creates synchronicity.
i have seen it point to lost objects with 100% accuracy which was a little spooky
and i have heard it make sense about probabilties asked of it.
it's really nothing more than the most comprehensive and practically thought out
version of all things like oracles or oiji boards or tarot put into a form that
requires you to decipher philosophical probabilities it lays before you randomly.
a dream also usually requires deciphering to understand the use of metaphors, etc.
and it offers a waking form of this that seems to work given that it has been around for thousands of years.
...eeny beeny...chili beany..say '...sounds mysterious' if your a weeny...
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ShakeyShake
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/15/2003 : 15:51:57
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Ooooh sounds mysterious...
Homer...did you mean to quote the breeders there?
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night on my side
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Posted - 09/15/2003 : 15:52:51
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Originally posted by Sheamus
I would't say this. What you're describing is a common human experience shared by all kinds of people in different asspects of life. The same kind of situations and feelings associated with these situation can happen in a range of pursuits. Writing, art, film, even things like gardening and architecture I'm guessing.
I can see the validity of this point of view, even though my natural inclination is to disagree somewhat.
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Koons
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Posted - 09/16/2003 : 09:52:58
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I for one hope it's true. I don't really care what Black's reasoning behind it all is. I think there's a lot of people here who would agree with me when they say one of their dreams has been to see the Pixies live and were never given the opportunity, either because we were too young or just didn't know any better at the time. I was only 9 when they broke up, so I never even had a clue then. So now here's our chance. Let's just hope that it happens.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/16/2003 : 10:02:31
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Originally posted by ShakeyShake
Ooooh sounds mysterious...
Homer...did you mean to quote the breeders there?
My bone used to have a little machine,i must have misplaced it
I did indeed.........do you love me now ?
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noexx
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Posted - 09/16/2003 : 13:17:31
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| i thought about it and i would rather see frank black shows 5 times a year than the pixies once a year. |
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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/16/2003 : 13:27:41
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Originally posted by noexx
i thought about it and i would rather see frank black shows 5 times a year than the pixies once a year.
you know, even though i love the pixies more than frank's solo/catholics stuff, i agree. even though id love to see the pixies, and even though id go see them if they really are reuniting (which i dont honestly believe they are), im happy in the acceptance that the holy grail of a pixies concert is something that cannot be had today. its like, something thats not supposed to be seen. not in an 'over and done with' way, just, the way it is and should be....or something....
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Koons
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USA
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Posted - 09/16/2003 : 19:28:15
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you know, even though i love the pixies more than frank's solo/catholics stuff, i agree. even though id love to see the pixies, and even though id go see them if they really are reuniting (which i dont honestly believe they are), im happy in the acceptance that the holy grail of a pixies concert is something that cannot be had today. its like, something thats not supposed to be seen. not in an 'over and done with' way, just, the way it is and should be....or something....
I kind of understand what you mean in a way. I've always wanted to see them live, and it's just been something that I was never going to get to see my entire life, which made the Pixies a lot cooler to me in a way. But I HAVE to see them now and the candy has been dangled in my face and if it's taken away, I'll be quite upset. On the idea of a new Pixies album, however, I'm dead set against that idea. I think it's fine where it's at, Frank and Kim are doing their own thing now and their creative heads would not mesh like they once did. The Pixies catalogue is near perfection in my opinion and I don't want to see new songs that would be half-hearted. Know what I mean?
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night on my side
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Posted - 09/16/2003 : 23:45:25
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You could say I'm a dreamer, but I'd love to know that the former Pixies got together and jammed a few times, even if nobody else ever got to see it.
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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/17/2003 : 05:05:36
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On the idea of a new Pixies album, however, I'm dead set against that idea. I think it's fine where it's at, Frank and Kim are doing their own thing now and their creative heads would not mesh like they once did. The Pixies catalogue is near perfection in my opinion and I don't want to see new songs that would be half-hearted. Know what I mean?
i totally agree. i think i said somewhere else, id much prefer to have some old material done up and recorded, if this is all going to happen. boom chic a boom and born in chicago and stuff like that. id like to see some of that put on an album....
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ShakeyShake
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1058 Posts |
Posted - 09/19/2003 : 16:18:55
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Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey
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Originally posted by ShakeyShake
Ooooh sounds mysterious...
Homer...did you mean to quote the breeders there?
My bone used to have a little machine,i must have misplaced it
I did indeed.........do you love me now ?
Come to beer class on thursday nights and i might just tell you
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Sheamus
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Black Frank
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 09/20/2003 : 12:34:41
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Here are the differences between a fact and a rumor.
the weezer webmaster/long time friend of weezer says they (weezer) have close ties to Santiago says this reunion is legit. <-- this is a fact
The rumor has it that weezer will be one of the bands joining in the reunion. <-- this is a rumor |
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