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IBreed
= Cult of Ray =
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 Posted - 11/18/2014 : 13:18:51
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| where can i hear these three demos? thanks. |
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Helmut
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 11/18/2014 : 14:26:24
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| Indie Cindy was a solid 6.5/10. It would have been a different album with Kim and less slick. In that link posted there's info about how the demos were written for Kim with her vox in place, the lack of them screwed things up. I think there are a few classic albums in them, but they need to pick up gyre pace to meet Charles output/ work ethic it tease them out. |
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* Dog in the Sand *
Belgium
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Posted - 11/18/2014 : 23:01:36
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I actually like Indie Cindy (the album) a lot. It's not flawless, but it's good, sometimes very good. Of course, everything is totally ruined by the overproduction/compression to the point that it's just not listenable at all. That's a fucking shame. But I think everyone here agrees on that.
Paz is just not a singer. So I don't think her voice could be "used" in any way.
For the few lucky ones that got to hear those alleged 3 new demos, how do they sound ? Are those the remaining songs of the Rice & Beans music 2013 update ?
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vilainde
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Posted - 11/19/2014 : 02:50:58
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Originally posted by picpic
For the few lucky ones that got to hear those alleged 3 new demos, how do they sound ? Are those the remaining songs of the Rice & Beans music 2013 update ?
Does anyone ever read my messages?
http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=21455
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* Dog in the Sand *
Belgium
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Posted - 11/19/2014 : 04:37:36
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I don't read every single topic on this forum...
Thanks for the link anyway.
Edit: just listened. Except OLC, those sound like classic FB tunes.
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IBreed
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 11/19/2014 : 05:40:11
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Originally posted by vilainde
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Originally posted by picpic
For the few lucky ones that got to hear those alleged 3 new demos, how do they sound ? Are those the remaining songs of the Rice & Beans music 2013 update ?
Does anyone ever read my messages?
http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=21455
Denis
ahaa, thanks!
these recordings sound great and i like every song. i so want to hear joey all over these tracks. |
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* Dog in the Sand *
Belgium
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Posted - 11/19/2014 : 08:08:30
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Those just looks like leftovers to me, won't be used twice.
O little cloud would have made a nice Pixies song, though. Could easily have replaced a weaker one on the album.
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IBreed
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 11/19/2014 : 08:21:33
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| FB explicitly says they may end up as Pixies or solo songs though. they're not as immediately arresting as greens or classic masher, but they reveal themselves with each listen... there's a surprising amount of depth within these weird little tunes. i'd love to see them explored with the pixies. i think women of war shows what they could sound like with the full band. not that they don't already rule. |
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presley1
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Posted - 11/19/2014 : 10:15:41
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Originally posted by IBreed
FB explicitly says they may end up as Pixies or solo songs though. they're not as immediately arresting as greens or classic masher, but they reveal themselves with each listen... there's a surprising amount of depth within these weird little tunes. i'd love to see them explored with the pixies. i think women of war shows what they could sound like with the full band. not that they don't already rule.
If the story about the band not being open to writing is true then I'm really disappointed
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Helmut
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 11/19/2014 : 11:48:29
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| The songs are raw and rocking and punk, but a bit demo sounding. They would be Pixies tracks with Joey on them, I don't know what the hold up is. A punk rock Pixies album is what we need. |
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sdon
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 11/19/2014 : 13:04:24
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Originally posted by picpic
Those just looks like leftovers to me, won't be used twice.
O little cloud would have made a nice Pixies song, though. Could easily have replaced a weaker one on the album.
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Hey, exactly. Replace Another Toe with O Little Cloud, and the whole album gets better :)
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Helmut
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 11/19/2014 : 23:52:25
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| Songs rejected by Pixies are going on the new BF album, plus new ones. Disappointed the new Pixies can't see how awesome the BF demos are and won't do a new album. Maybe it's time for another 11 year break. |
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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 11/20/2014 : 05:24:12
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Songs rejected by Pixies are going on the new BF album, plus new ones. Disappointed the new Pixies can't see how awesome the BF demos are and won't do a new album. Maybe it's time for another 11 year break.
You are overdoing it a bit man. If they don't want to record, so be it, at least we know BF will keep pushing on. And the demos are ok, to my ears they are simple and with some promise but it's not like they are clearly epic or anything. The other members may be more picky about what they want to work on. There is a reason people aren't tripping over themselves talking up the demos, because they are just "fine". Especially compared to something Classic Masher which right of the bat sounds catchy and full of potential. |
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IBreed
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 11/20/2014 : 07:22:46
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Originally posted by Helmut
Songs rejected by Pixies are going on the new BF album, plus new ones. Disappointed the new Pixies can't see how awesome the BF demos are and won't do a new album. Maybe it's time for another 11 year break.
You are overdoing it a bit man. If they don't want to record, so be it, at least we know BF will keep pushing on. And the demos are ok, to my ears they are simple and with some promise but it's not like they are clearly epic or anything. The other members may be more picky about what they want to work on. There is a reason people aren't tripping over themselves talking up the demos, because they are just "fine". Especially compared to something Classic Masher which right of the bat sounds catchy and full of potential.
i get what you're saying. but imagining these weird, less digestible songs alongside a few classic mashers is really exciting! for example, women of war is a few notches less catchy than another toe in the ocean, but i'd so much rather be rewarded by the weirder melodies of the former after six plays than have to put up with the immediate un-pixie like radio rock of the latter.
so much of indie cindy is immediate. and outside of the aforementioned toe, most of it rules. but a new pixies album that celebrates the weird some more is probably pretty tantalizing to many. it is to me. open on um chagga lagga, followed by classic masher, then o little cloud...
so cool! just as an aside, one thing these demos really highlight is how cool of a rhythm player Frank is. i hope that's kept central on the new pixies album, whenever that may be. |
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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 11/20/2014 : 09:14:11
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Originally posted by natenate101
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Originally posted by Helmut
Songs rejected by Pixies are going on the new BF album, plus new ones. Disappointed the new Pixies can't see how awesome the BF demos are and won't do a new album. Maybe it's time for another 11 year break.
You are overdoing it a bit man. If they don't want to record, so be it, at least we know BF will keep pushing on. And the demos are ok, to my ears they are simple and with some promise but it's not like they are clearly epic or anything. The other members may be more picky about what they want to work on. There is a reason people aren't tripping over themselves talking up the demos, because they are just "fine". Especially compared to something Classic Masher which right of the bat sounds catchy and full of potential.
i get what you're saying. but imagining these weird, less digestible songs alongside a few classic mashers is really exciting! for example, women of war is a few notches less catchy than another toe in the ocean, but i'd so much rather be rewarded by the weirder melodies of the former after six plays than have to put up with the immediate un-pixie like radio rock of the latter.
so much of indie cindy is immediate. and outside of the aforementioned toe, most of it rules. but a new pixies album that celebrates the weird some more is probably pretty tantalizing to many. it is to me. open on um chagga lagga, followed by classic masher, then o little cloud...
so cool! just as an aside, one thing these demos really highlight is how cool of a rhythm player Frank is. i hope that's kept central on the new pixies album, whenever that may be.
I think you misunderstand me. I wish the demos were more weird. They are more tame than I would prefer. |
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* Dog in the Sand *
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 11/21/2014 : 03:34:31
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Good spot, lot's of interesting titbits on that link, especially this one
"We have finally finished putting together the art and text and tracks for the Frank Black And The Cathoics complete recordings box set. Everything has been re-mastered from the original live to 2-track and 1-track recordings. The release contains well over a hundred songs. There will also be a bonus disc of “technical demos” that Ben Mumphrey (who engineered ALL of the mobile recordings) has found recently in his New Orleans recording archive" |
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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *
Belgium
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Posted - 11/21/2014 : 04:46:52
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And, if I understand correctly, he will send out more demos in the future.
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