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sdon
= Cult of Ray =
France
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
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 Posted - 01/10/2014 : 12:28:24
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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 01/10/2014 : 12:42:33
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| Well I couldn't resist. Nice video find. I agree with your conclusions. Does not seem to me he is doing a bad job. |
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yarbles
= Cult of Ray =
USA
635 Posts |
Posted - 01/10/2014 : 13:25:43
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| He seems like a sensible guy from that video. I'd love to hear more about the the behind-the-scenes managerial part of the band. Just the small tidbits in this video were pretty interesting to me. |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 01/10/2014 : 13:36:35
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Maybe it's a bit redundant to go over the Kim S thing now. It's over. Charles is a pioneer moving ever forward. Kim S blew it. I think she thought Pixies would incorporate her style. She misjudged it. Her sarcastic reaction to being fired/let go shows she wasn't a good fit. Charles has had very workable relationships with dozens of musicians over the years. He doesn't make a secret of how he likes to work and musicians have a choice. Nearly all do what they gotta do because they value the opportunity to be a part of it. Kim S found out to her cost that Pixies are not a punk collective. Charles is pretty far from that ethos. He's not tied at the hip, never was. I like that about him. He keeps himself free to do what he wants and extends the same courtesy to fans and fellow musicians alike. He ain't no nursemaid.
I'm just relieved I got through that paragraph without referring to Charles as a maverick.
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Mac E. Doobage
= Cult of Ray =
503 Posts |
Posted - 01/14/2014 : 01:02:09
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| If BF/FB is Maverick then I guess that makes Kim S. Goose, right? |
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Oui
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Posted - 01/14/2014 : 07:17:23
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| I believe Paz played with Joey in The Martinis... so I'd assume she was Joey's choice as a bass player (but then again what do i know!). Mr. Francis has always been quite supportive of Madame Shattuck, before and after. Look forward to hearing Paz with the Pixies, as she seems to be a very talented musician. |
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yarbles
= Cult of Ray =
USA
635 Posts |
Posted - 01/14/2014 : 07:25:29
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| From Joey's instagram feed it's apparent he's much closer/excited about Paz than he was with Kim S. |
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Oui
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Posted - 01/14/2014 : 08:45:43
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 01/14/2014 : 09:32:52
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From what I understand, PL is a classically trained musician. She's the first bassist in the band who's dedicated to the instrument. From a lead guitarist's standpoint (especially a great guitarist like Joey Santiago) a bassist who plays with authority might be a great thing and a welcome change.
Kim Shattuck is a songwriter, a singer and a guitarist. As far as I know, the Pixies was the first time she ever played bass in a band and, though I don't think about it much, I do wonder if maybe the differences that lead the band to hire a new bassist were purely musical in nature.
And that's as far as my speculation goes. |
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Oui
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Posted - 01/14/2014 : 10:16:39
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Didn't know that about Paz Jason.
And her harmonies sound great on this clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui4mpSkgo30
Maybe if Paz works out, some future live to two recordings for the Pixies. |
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
1334 Posts |
Posted - 01/14/2014 : 10:48:13
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| Wow. She sounds very good in that clip. |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 01/14/2014 : 10:59:17
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Originally posted by Oui
Didn't know that about Paz Jason.
And her harmonies sound great on this clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui4mpSkgo30
Wow yeah that does look and sound good. I really hope it works out for everyone.
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Fissile
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 01/14/2014 : 11:27:38
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Originally posted by Oui
I believe Paz played with Joey in The Martinis... so I'd assume she was Joey's choice as a bass player (but then again what do i know!). Mr. Francis has always been quite supportive of Madame Shattuck, before and after. Look forward to hearing Paz with the Pixies, as she seems to be a very talented musician.
Back in 2004, there were rumors that the Pixies were going to reunite with Paz on bass. I think maybe that's one of the things that motivated Kim to come back to the band. |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 01/14/2014 : 12:55:07
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Originally posted by Jason
Kim Shattuck is a songwriter, a singer and a guitarist. As far as I know, the Pixies was the first time she ever played bass in a band
She played bass in the Pandoras from 1985 to '90 |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
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Posted - 01/14/2014 : 13:29:14
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Originally posted by peter radiator
It is my understanding that Ken Goes has not been in the management position since the reunion started in 2004.
~ Peter Radiator
"Real music is out there and real people are making it." ~ Webb Wilder
Not correct. Ken was involved for at least a year and possibly two after the reunion started. He is definitely not involved now.
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peter radiator
= Cult of Ray =
USA
653 Posts |
Posted - 01/14/2014 : 14:04:26
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You're right, Cult of Frank. I think I had forgotten about that.
Come to think of it, didn't the management change occur right around the time FB reverted to BF?
~ Peter Radiator
"Real music is out there and real people are making it." ~ Webb Wilder |
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simibaby
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 01/14/2014 : 20:13:39
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Starting to wonder about the (lack of) "other music" knowledge of some of you FB/Pixie lovers. Peeps not even aware of The Muffs or not knowing that Kim S did, indeed, play bass well before her Pixies time (in The Pandoras) or that Paz is from a well-known musical fam and was classically trained on cello, string bass etc since childhood.
C.mon dudes, there's stuff happening out there in rock besides the Pixies
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 01/14/2014 : 21:32:42
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Nope, sorry simi, I had never heard of the Muffs before. I guess they're not too famous outside of the USA.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Posted - 01/14/2014 : 21:47:36
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I heard about The Muffs, I'm from Europe, so there you go...Still it's not like she was the lead singer of Hole or L7 or Bikini Kill.
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simibaby
= Cult of Ray =
405 Posts |
Posted - 01/14/2014 : 21:55:14
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| Okay. But you didnt know about Paz's former history OR Kim S's ? They aren't newbies or unknowns in Europe. My friends over there know of them |
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Discoking
* Dog in the Sand *
Belgium
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Posted - 01/14/2014 : 22:29:43
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whatever, simibaby.
just because you haven't heard of the muffs or kim s, doesn't mean you don't know any music besides the pixies. we can't all know the same bands and the personal history of their members.
 it's educational |
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rivum
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
265 Posts |
Posted - 01/15/2014 : 02:27:22
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| seriously! what a stupid comment by simibaby. sounding like a real pretentious douche there, dude. |
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 01/15/2014 : 03:50:23
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Yeesh, I'm 37 years old. I haven't been around anyone for whom music knowledge one-upmanship mattered in years. Kids sometimes talk that way, but intelligent and secure adults tend to politely share information (like BLT did above when he corrected me on Kim Shattuck's bass-playing past) without making it a competition.
Anyway, I LOVE The Muffs. I actually have all of the Muffs albums on vinyl, even. Except the first one, which only came out on CD. There's some knowledge for ya. What do I win?
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frankblackphx
= Cult of Ray =
USA
287 Posts |
Posted - 01/15/2014 : 03:56:38
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I love the assumption we all like the same style of music on this board. What's so great about Charles' writing is how diverse and wide reaching it is. We all aren't indie alternative music fans. I am starting to wonder about the lack of diversity of some of the people on this board. :)
Religion won't save me, the damage is done. The future has ended before it's begun.
Damaged Soul - Black Sabbath
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 01/15/2014 : 04:06:30
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Originally posted by frankblackphx
What's so great about Charles' writing is how diverse and wide reaching it is.
YES.
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1301 Posts |
Posted - 01/15/2014 : 04:45:12
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I really can't stand "indie" music outside of BF/Pixies and a couple others. I had never heard of the Muffs or Paz and I have over 800 vinyl LPs and somewhere in the neighborhood of 150GB of digital music. What's that make me? Some kind of sheltered loser?
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Discoking
* Dog in the Sand *
Belgium
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Posted - 01/15/2014 : 05:05:55
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it obviously means you're doing it wrong. there are even people in europe who know the muffs. so.
it's educational |
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simibaby
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 01/15/2014 : 12:28:30
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| C'mon, guys, I am neither intelligent nor secure. You should realise that by now! Just luv to stir things up once in a blue, amongst those i love. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
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Posted - 01/17/2014 : 02:38:11
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Originally posted by peter radiator
You're right, Cult of Frank. I think I had forgotten about that.
Come to think of it, didn't the management change occur right around the time FB reverted to BF?
~ Peter Radiator
"Real music is out there and real people are making it." ~ Webb Wilder
I'd have to look back through some archives but that does sound about right.
"If we hit this bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate." |
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The Maharal
= Cult of Ray =
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The New Bolero
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 05/20/2014 : 11:47:35
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| Good, funny title but let's start getting over it Kim S. |
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
1446 Posts |
Posted - 05/20/2014 : 14:33:38
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| NONE of you has any idea if that title is a reference to the Pixies drama. This album was finished about a year ago. |
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sdon
= Cult of Ray =
France
786 Posts |
Posted - 05/20/2014 : 20:50:37
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Maybe it's the other way round
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"Aristophanes! (gong sounds)" |
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Kim Shattuck responds to BF & David
