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ChienAndalou22
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58 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2013 :  09:43:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is a bit stupid that the whole jumping in to the crowd thing was mentioned in passing and people have, because it's the only bit of knowledge they have, assumed that's the sole reason she's gone.
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2013 :  10:25:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
seems like someone pissed in Joey's Cheerios

green star member since 2006. smb?
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Jamie
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USA
110 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2013 :  10:50:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's the thing, Kim is coming across as friendly and open and the Pixies are coming across as bullshitty in a publicist-managed kind of way.

Like this thing with her contract only running through December. I'm sure that's technically true, but they seem to be trying to imply that this was the plan all along, which is ridiculous to anyone paying attention. You don't rehearse three times a week for seven or eight months (as Kim said on that podcast) for a three month tour. Especially when that tour is going to continue and you have to scramble to get a replacement up to speed over Christmas. Plus if their intention was really to only have her through December they would have said something to that effect at the outset to avoid a situation like this.

I mean, I get that this post-Kim Deal transition is tricky, and I absolutely understand why they'd want to have it handled by professionals. I think most people would agree that Frank Black's solo career was hurt by the poor handling of the original Pixies breakup. I don't know, maybe it comes across differently to fans who are less plugged in, but to me it doesn't seem like those professionals are doing a very good job. I don't even care that they fired Kim Shattuck that much, actually I think they need someone with a sweeter singing voice. But the handling of this whole thing has kind of dampened my enthusiasm.
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2013 :  10:51:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by floop

seems like someone pissed in Joey's Cheerios




"She was never IN the Pixies."

Dude is arguing semantics. If she wasn't IN the band they shouldn't have let her attend magazine photo shoots.

Future bass players should be made to play behind the amp stacks if they're not IN the band.
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sdon
= Cult of Ray =

France
786 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2013 :  11:56:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I like my Pixies to be clumsy, imperfect, and maybe even assholes
Only then can they turn shit into gold
Something went wrong with Kim S., but hey it already was a miracle they made new material and toured with such enthusiasm AND professionalism.
I may have been too quick to think Kim would be a Pixie for many years. But I don't regret at all their September shows, it was a tremendous experience.

--
"Aristophanes! (gong sounds)"
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *

1446 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2013 :  12:07:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kim Shattuck seems to be over it. So, I'm over it.

My deepest thought about all of this: Hopefully, this just means a Muffs tour next year after their new album is out.
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simibaby
= Cult of Ray =

405 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2013 :  17:28:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Shades of how the BEATLES fired PETE BEST.Lennon wanted him out (too popular with the ladies and too fuckin GOOD on the drums). They had Brian Epstein do the dirty work. haha......and in came Ringo (ugly as sin and a so-so drummer) just the way John liked it.

Anyway, I, too, look forward to new Muffs music and Paz' legs
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peter radiator
= Cult of Ray =

USA
653 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2013 :  19:47:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by simibaby

......and in came Ringo (ugly as sin and a so-so drummer)


Ringo's an absolutely phenomenal drummer, and an incredibly important component of the Beatles' sound.

He's gotten a bad rap for years, and it is almost completely unfounded.

He's got soul, empathy, chops and excellent time. Plus, his feel is extremely unique.

That makes him one of the hardest drummers for other players to accurately emulate (no matter how talented they are), which is the ultimate, true test of his skills.

Nobody sounds like Ringo. Especially in the studio.

Most serious drummers who have paid attention to his work will tell you the same thing, straight up.

Not trying to argue, just sticking up for one of the most unjustly and routinely maligned pop musicians of the last 60 years...

:)



~ Peter Radiator

"Real music is out there and real people are making it." ~ Webb Wilder
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 12/24/2013 :  01:53:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Plus he either 'officially' created or popularized that backward-fill thing, didn't he?
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Mickey
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USA
207 Posts

Posted - 12/24/2013 :  07:31:12  Show Profile  Visit Mickey's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Seriously, RingoFan4Life here.

-Mickey
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frankblackphx
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USA
287 Posts

Posted - 12/24/2013 :  09:43:24  Show Profile  Visit frankblackphx's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The truth is, at the time Ringo was the hottest drummer in Liverpool playing with Rory Storm and the Hurricanes.The Beatles desperately wanted him. The Ringo not being good enough all started because of George Martin bringing in his own studio drummer for their first session.

Here I am for your judgement
When the paint grows darker still
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 12/24/2013 :  10:58:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, the Beatles without Ringo would be like The Who without Moon. Unthinkable.
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 12/24/2013 :  12:55:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by peter radiator

quote:
Originally posted by simibaby

......and in came Ringo (ugly as sin and a so-so drummer)


Ringo's an absolutely phenomenal drummer, and an incredibly important component of the Beatles' sound.

He's gotten a bad rap for years, and it is almost completely unfounded.

He's got soul, empathy, chops and excellent time. Plus, his feel is extremely unique.

That makes him one of the hardest drummers for other players to accurately emulate (no matter how talented they are), which is the ultimate, true test of his skills.

Nobody sounds like Ringo. Especially in the studio.

Most serious drummers who have paid attention to his work will tell you the same thing, straight up.

Not trying to argue, just sticking up for one of the most unjustly and routinely maligned pop musicians of the last 60 years...

:)



~ Peter Radiator

"Real music is out there and real people are making it." ~ Webb Wilder



underlined text, bolding, and italics...

you have riled up Pete Rad

green star member since 2006. smb?
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peter radiator
= Cult of Ray =

USA
653 Posts

Posted - 12/24/2013 :  14:58:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hahahaha

Not true at all, but that made me chuckle on a very shitty day.

THANKS, FLOOP!



~ Peter Radiator

"Real music is out there and real people are making it." ~ Webb Wilder
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 12/24/2013 :  15:08:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
cheers Pete

green star member since 2006. smb?
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simibaby
= Cult of Ray =

405 Posts

Posted - 12/24/2013 :  15:08:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Relax, fellow music lovers........Just goofing around re: Ringo (as I'm wont to do...goofing, that is) I love him. Just wanted to do a "Pete Best fired" kinda thing vis a vis "Kim S" situation. Holla!
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1758 Posts

Posted - 12/25/2013 :  01:26:25  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtcbVUNO1NY

IT WAS A GOOF!

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they were the heroes of old, men of renown.
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Arm Arm Arm
* Dog in the Sand *

1037 Posts

Posted - 12/25/2013 :  02:28:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've enjoyed Ringo's drumming but now I'm actually curious to listen to Pete Best's.
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peter radiator
= Cult of Ray =

USA
653 Posts

Posted - 12/25/2013 :  09:22:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jose Jones

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtcbVUNO1NY

IT WAS A GOOF!


Now, that was something special, Jose Jones...

I'll see that, and raise you with this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZDjWLwqAPY




~ Peter Radiator

"Real music is out there and real people are making it." ~ Webb Wilder
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simibaby
= Cult of Ray =

405 Posts

Posted - 12/25/2013 :  15:01:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Pete Best actually wound up very centered and a good guy. Latr released an album with him playing with the Beatles titled : "Best Of the Beatles" haha
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BunsenH
= Cult of Ray =

296 Posts

Posted - 12/26/2013 :  05:03:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by simibaby

Pete Best actually wound up very centered and a good guy. Latr released an album with him playing with the Beatles titled : "Best Of the Beatles" haha



Hi. Just to clarify, it was not "an album with him playing with the Beatles". It was recorded with the "The Pete Best Combo". It's a lighthearted play on words, but ultimately, Beatles fans that were expecting a compilation of Beatles' tunes were dissapointed.
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