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Arm Arm Arm
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 Posted - 02/01/2014 : 06:56:18
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I'd been listening to the Pixies for about three years when I learned that Frank Black was going to open for Pearl Jam and decided I should listen to his solo stuff to be prepared. I purchased the Orange, Teenager and Cult and dove in! However, it was him and the Catholics and while some songs I instantly liked (I Need Peace) it was challenging hearing new music, let alone songs so different in style from his early solo albums. Eventually I loved the Catholics albums and was amazed at their live show.
That was the beginning, three albums filled with great songs. |
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simibaby
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 02/02/2014 : 10:28:37
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Cool, Arm. I like hearing stories about how one band can inadvertently (?) get you into finding another band and opening up shit! The FB & the C's shows I saw in 2000 thru 2002 only came about cuz I was so in love with the Pixies (and of course Frank). Ur right, Their shows were incredible.
I love P Jam and ADORE the king, Neil Young.....and it was cool to see a lot of young kids at a Neil show who got into him because of PJ! haha |
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moonruler
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Posted - 02/03/2014 : 12:14:29
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Greens and Blues is my favorite new Pixies song, but on a whole I like EP-1 a bit more.
I have only listened to EP-2 less than a dozen times and reserve some judgement.
I cannot remember a single Pixies or FB release that there was not some sort of hesitation towards before I caught the groove.
An almost "why are you trying so hard" feeling, and then I would understand it was not trying too hard, but setting a new standard of sound that I had to catch up to.
For the most part I am enjoying the new Pixies. Some of it has taken a few listens and I am sure I will be enjoying it more and more as the nuisances reveal themselves.
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
Canada
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Posted - 02/03/2014 : 14:20:48
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Originally posted by moonruler
.....For the most part I am enjoying the new Pixies. Some of it has taken a few listens and I am sure I will be enjoying it more and more as the nuisances reveal themselves....
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haha. I think you mean nuances. 
"Fundamentally, all writing is about the same thing; it's about dying, about the brief flicker of time we have here, and the frustration that it creates. |
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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *
Belgium
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Posted - 02/03/2014 : 23:17:25
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Haha ! Nice one.
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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *
Belgium
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Posted - 02/03/2014 : 23:31:43
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Haha ! Nice one.
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 02/04/2014 : 00:12:24
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Originally posted by moonruler
Greens and Blues is my favorite new Pixies song, but on a whole I like EP-1 a bit more.
I have only listened to EP-2 less than a dozen times and reserve some judgement.
I cannot remember a single Pixies or FB release that there was not some sort of hesitation towards before I caught the groove.
An almost "why are you trying so hard" feeling, and then I would understand it was not trying too hard, but setting a new standard of sound that I had to catch up to.
For the most part I am enjoying the new Pixies. Some of it has taken a few listens and I am sure I will be enjoying it more and more as the nuisances reveal themselves.
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BF's trademark is to put something twisted in the way but every time he wants the twisted thing to be smaller and more discreet. Some could say it's an artistic choice, some could argue that's it's a comercial choice. He wants to attempt classic pop rock songs. He already wanted to do that in most of his discography but there was always something gone "wrong", even in his popiest stuff, and for most of us it was good news. Examples from the orange album: i heard ramona song has some not-obvious chord progression, old black drawing some strange breaks... and anyway the lyrics were always original, etc... But his no-nonsense side is growing each time over the look-at-me-I-am-an-artist side. At least in the country recordings it was kind of justified by making a nod to tradition: you dont expect Kris Kristoferson to make a crazy post punk song!!! But now what is the nod? To Oasis? The who, the Kinks and the Beatles where making some crazy music in the late sixties, that's the idea of pop, just like the pixies in the 80's. I dont really get the problem with making crazy music!!! Every fresh music is crazy! Even the jazz used to be crazy when it was still alive! |
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peter radiator
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 02/04/2014 : 08:10:39
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Reassuring to hear a few people are reading it, it took bloody ages to type out. Thanks guys!
All apologies for not responding sooner to your enjoyable and thoughtful post above, nadavatik.
I've been swamped with real world obligations of late and not able to post on these boards till a few nights back. Hopefully that did not give you the impression that I was disinterested in your reply!
Most everything you said in that post makes perfect sense to me, and I now have a better understanding of what you were getting at. I think that the idea of the earlier Pixies library seeming sacrosanct to many DOES have a great deal to do with it being viewed by perhaps the majority of listeners just as you quoted from the piece in Quietus:
"(They have) grown to accept the idea of the Pixies' catalogue of work as complete – a virtually perfect run of genre-defining noise."
This is understandable and adds an awful lot of weight to the mere act of considering adding to - and thus possibly diluting (or at the very least negating some of) - the "etched in stone" part of their creative careers.
I don't know why I have been able to put aside any worries of that, because for someone who obviously cares greatly about this band and their output, I'd seem to be a prime candidate to be steadfastly in that very camp.
For whatever reason, my curiosity and happiness at receiving "new appendixes to one of my favorite books" has trumped that response, I guess.
You're right that debates on internet message boards don't usually evolve the way yours and mine has, but I think that is at least in part because I really didn't see it as a debate at all, but merely a conversation between friends who have never met and don't know much about each other. :)
Your comment about me possibly being a psychologist (or something related to that field) made me smile, as I am perhaps the furthest thing from that. In truth, I am basically a juggler. I just juggle a handful of peculiar jobs, none of which come close to keeping me afloat.
And you're right, I do from time to time put way too much thought into the inner workings of these particular artists (and a few others, I suppose). That's probably a reaction formation of some sort, as I'm sure it subconsciously allows me to avoid putting enough thought into the trials and tribulations of my own life.
Thanks for the kind words and the inspiring discourse!
~ Peter Radiator
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nadavatik
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Posted - 02/06/2014 : 03:12:53
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'And you're right, I do from time to time put way too much thought into the inner workings of these particular artists (and a few others, I suppose). That's probably a reaction formation of some sort, as I'm sure it subconsciously allows me to avoid putting enough thought into the trials and tribulations of my own life.'
Are you SURE you're not a psychologist? Anyway, nice to hear you're thoughts too, I'm enjoying the conversation too :-) Me and you could make the internet a better place... |
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peter radiator
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 02/06/2014 : 12:59:06
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Originally posted by nadavatik
Are you SURE you're not a psychologist?
My bank account says no.
~ Peter Radiator
"Real music is out there and real people are making it." ~ Webb Wilder |
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