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bedrock_barney
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Posted - 09/09/2013 :  09:37:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Now that I’m posting again and before I get distracted again and disappear again, I thought I'd start a couple of threads. This new Pixies music has got me thinking a lot about Trompe Le Monde (being the last Pixes release). I’ve been playing it in my office today (which hasn’t helped with my work output…..!). I may have been an exception to the rule when it came out as I was instantly hooked, there was no need for it become a grower. The transition from Bossanova was stellar. Such an unremittingly powerful record and often my favourite Pixies album.

It was, by far, the best album of 1991 for me and maybe the best of the 90’s although I’ve not really thought long and hard about that. As a bit of fun I’ve just spent 30 minutes perusing the ‘best of’ lists from 1991 and thought I’d compile my own top 10. I hope this hasn’t been done on the forum before now:

1. Pixies, Trompe Le Monde – Epic stuff only let down ever so slightly by Head On (good song but as a cover doesn’t quite fit) and maybe the album should have stopped at Roswell?

2. The Blue Aeroplanes, Beatsongs – love this band. Seriously under the radar for most of their career. This album only bettered by Swagger from the previous year. Fans of sprechgesang rejoice!

3. Nirvana, Nevermind – had to be in the top 10 I suppose. Don’t play it much these days for some reason although enjoyed it greatly at the time. Best memory was seeing them play Territorial Pissings live on the Jonathan Ross show although they’d apparently rehearsed another track.

4. Throwing Muses, Real Ramona – Kristin Hersh, like BF, is a genius singer songwriter. Thought to be their poppiest album?

5. Half Man Half Biscuit, McIntyre, Treadmore and Davitt – John Peel loved this band. The lyrics are mad but great. This is not their best album but has some fan faves such as Everything’s A.O.R and Outbreak of Vitas Gerulaitis.

6. Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians – Perspex Island - very solid writing as per nearly all of his many albums. Maybe a bit mainstream compared to a lot of his output but still good.

7. REM, Out of Time - I’m not sure if I like this album or not! It’s poppy, catchy and has goofy videos. It is decent sing along stuff though and 50x better than U2.

8. The Mock Turtles, Turtle Soup - again poppy (for me) but nice jangly guitars. The singer, Martin Coogan is older brother of Steve Coogan.

9. James, Seven - more poppy guitar music . I think 1991 is proving to be my definitive pop year. Some strong tracks on this release intermixed with weaker ones. 50x better than U2 though.

10. Genesis, We Can’t Dance, Jello Biafra with NoMeansNo, The Sky Is Falling And I Want My Mommy – ah that’s better.

Interested to see how others view 1991.



The humble apple

Edited by - bedrock_barney on 09/09/2013 09:37:40

lucmove
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Brazil
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Posted - 09/09/2013 :  10:53:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Best albums of 1991 and no mention of Loveless, the best album of the entire decade perhaps the century? And you don't like Head On?

I think I am going to throw a party, just so I can not invite you.

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bedrock_barney
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/09/2013 :  11:40:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lucmove

Best albums of 1991 and no mention of Loveless, the best album of the entire decade perhaps the century? And you don't like Head On?

I think I am going to throw a party, just so I can not invite you.

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Wow. You mean we have a different top 10?! That's amazing.

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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
1594 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2013 :  11:48:51  Show Profile  Visit hammerhands's Homepage  Reply with Quote
0+2=1 also listed as 1991 for NoMeansNo.

I've never heard of Loveless, what's that?

Let me Google...

Angel Rat by Voivod
After All by The Trio, Gerd Dudek, Ali Haurand, Rob Van Der Broeck
Their gig at the local jazz festival and this album changed my life.
Nothing that would register outside of me.
Tin Machine II - not quite as powerful as Tin Machine

Some other albums that year
1916 - Motorhead, the only Motirhead album I have.
Achtung Baby - U2
Blood, Sugar, Sex, Magik by RHCP, That's a maybe, it got lots of spins.
Blue Light, Red Light by Harry Connick Jr. was a superior sound quality
album, I took that to lots of Hi-Fi shops.
Kenny Kirkland - Kenny Kirkland
Levee Low Moan - Wynton Marsalis
Mighty Like a Rose - Elvis Costello
The Missing Years - John Prine, I've never heard it, would make lots of top 10s
No More Tears - Ozzy
The Reality of My Surroundings - Fishbone
Road Apples - Tragically Hip, that's a maybe
Standard Time, Vol 2. - Wynton Marsalis
Ten - Pearl Jam
Two Dogs Fucking - Dayglow Abortions
Uptown Ruler - Wynton Marsalis
Why Do Birds Sing - Violent Femmes

Both Rush and The Cult released their worst efforts.

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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2564 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2013 :  11:58:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bedrock_barney


1. Pixies, Trompe Le Monde – Epic stuff only let down ever so slightly by Head On (good song but as a cover doesn’t quite fit) and maybe the album should have stopped at Roswell?

The humble apple


I always thought Motorway to Roswell seemed like a more fitting end to Trompe Le Monde. There's something about the ending, it's whimsical, beautiful even. To me just always felt like the end to the point where it started to ruin my enjoyment of The Navajo Know when it started playing next. Crazy but that's how I felt.


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lucmove
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Brazil
116 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2013 :  12:30:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Navajo Know is one of my all-time favorite Pixies tracks. That chic "Wild West" production is surprising and beautiful. What rock band would ever think of doing something like that? And it can only get better after all these years, when we can look back at all the americana that Frank Black has put into his solo work.

And I think it's perfect to close the album because it has ties (IMO) to Brick Is Red and Havalina: tracks that seem coy but are brilliant. They're genius in their own right, but after everything you witnessed over the course of each respective album, you just know they will always be remembered as minor tracks. So they all close albums as if saying, "Man can dream and achieve grand things in the span of his brief existence, but in the end it's just dreams and pretention and he will go back to the humble dust from whence he has come." Oblivion. Melancholy. End. Good-bye.

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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 09/09/2013 :  13:39:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Music is an exhibition, not a competition so I will not put them in order, however these are worthy albums not yet mentioned:

Meat Puppets - Forbidden Places
Jesus Lizard - Goat
Kirsty MacColl - Electric Landlady
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <

Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2013 :  14:54:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A bunch:

Babes In Toyland - To Mother
Band Of Susans - The Word And The Flesh
Cranes - Wings of Joy
Les Négresses Vertes - Famille Nombreuse
Liz Phair - Girly Sound
Pixies - Trompe Le Monde
Pixies - Complete 'B' Sides
Public Enemy - Apocalypse 91...The Enemy Strikes Black
Throwing Muses - The Real Ramona
The Young Gods - The Young Gods Play Kurt Weill

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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2013 :  15:27:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ah, 91. a good vintage

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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7443 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2013 :  22:03:52  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
tro, She Hangs Brightly is from 1990.

2 of my favorite albums ever are from 1991: Trompe Le Monde and Massive Attack's BLUE LINES. Apart from that I don't have too many albums from that year, but honorable mentions go to:

Smashing Pumpking - Gish: still have a soft spot for this record. I think it's their best actually.
Mercury Rev - Yerself Is Steam and Mudhoney - Every Good Boy Deserves Fudge: I love both records but I think I bought them last year, so I had no idea of their existence back in 91.


Worst album of 1991: Slint - Spiderland. HAHA!


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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <

Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2013 :  00:24:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vilainde

tro, She Hangs Brightly is from 1990.

Denis


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Bloody itunes! Thanks Denis.

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vilainde
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Niue
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Posted - 09/10/2013 :  02:17:26  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Wait wait I forgot Screamadelica! I thought it was from '92. So there I have my top 3:

1) TLM
2) Blue Lines
3) Screamadelica


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floop
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Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2013 :  17:53:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ok, i put some thought into this, but it's confusing because, though 91 was memorable for me, a lot of the 'anthem' music we were listening to was not from 91. but... i see some grave omissions from that list


most notably



also





i second denis (vilainde)






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Edited by - floop on 09/10/2013 17:54:16
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danjersey
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
2792 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2013 :  18:46:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Seasons In the Abyss - Slayer
yeah, it's from 1990 but October of 1990
which makes it ahead of it's time

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Little Black Francis
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Posted - 09/10/2013 :  20:38:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by danjersey

Seasons In the Abyss - Slayer
yeah, it's from 1990 but October of 1990
which makes it ahead of it's time





You mean it's from 1990 like as in it's not from 1991?
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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
1462 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2013 :  00:57:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
my bro is taking me to my first slayer concert in november. he likes slayer how i like frank's music. i wonder how the slayer forum is?

mine are.....

tlm
soundgarden - badmotorfinger
nevermind
REM - out of time
the tragically hip - road apples
pearl jame 10


"I joined the Cult of Frank/ cause I'm a real go-getter!"...long live snitz!!
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bedrock_barney
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
871 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2013 :  01:05:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've seen Slayer live a couple of times, I think around 1990 and then again in May 2010 in Nottingham. The latter gig was superb (Rock City is a great venue - you can get very close to the stage although earplugs needed for my sensitive ears these days!).

Are they the same now that Jeff Hanneman has died?

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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <

Canada
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Posted - 09/11/2013 :  05:50:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
there was stuff happening in the UK also.

Ned's Atomic Dustbin - God Fodder
Blur - Leisure
Teenage Fanclub - Bandwagonesque
Swervedriver - Raise
EMF - Schubert Dip
Jesus Jones - Doubt
Carter USM - 30 Something

with the exception of EMF, all these albums get regular play around my house; especially Swervies, Ned's, and Carter...


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shineoftheever
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Canada
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Posted - 09/11/2013 :  05:52:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
there was stuff happening in the UK also.

Ned's Atomic Dustbin - God Fodder
Blur - Leisure
Teenage Fanclub - Bandwagonesque
Swervedriver - Raise
EMF - Schubert Dip
Jesus Jones - Doubt
Carter USM - 30 Something

with the exception of EMF, all these albums get regular play around my house; especially Swervies, Ned's, and Carter...


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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <

Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 09/11/2013 :  10:27:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hctAkYMkv4g Babes in Toyland - Spit to See The Shine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqUjQiQ-YNQ Cranes - Starblood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dCW-ov7XiU The Young Gods - Salomon Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgH2FMc9eRI Band of Susans - Bitter And Twisted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khTAfyrEW9I Liz Phair - Can't Get Out of What I'm Unto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qohQIGEPE0 Public Enemy - Lost At Birth

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OLDMANOTY
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/11/2013 :  11:52:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Don't know about 'best' but the albums I listened to most in '91 (apart from TLM) were:

Julian Cope - Peggy Suicide
The Fall - Shiftwork
Elvis Costello - Mighty Like a Rose
Grant McClennan - Watershed
Rain Tree Crow - Rain Tree Cow
Kitchens of Distinction - Strange Free World

erm..can't think of any more.
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <

Canada
4307 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2013 :  16:31:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
and when was Levellers - Levelling the Land?

google says September 1991. this deserves a one way link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nQ0EGo1KN0

c'mon! everybody sing: there's only one way of life and that's your own, that's your own, that's your own. oh wait, maybe we shouldn't all sing that...let's just bob our heads along in agreement but let's not all do it the same way cause you know, there's only one way of life, and that's your own, that's your own, that's your own.....


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BLT
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South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 09/11/2013 :  17:59:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by OLDMANOTY

Julian Cope - Peggy Suicide



How the hell did I forget that one? Thought it was earlier...

A great album.
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shineoftheever
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Canada
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Posted - 09/12/2013 :  15:21:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
canadian perspective - this album debuted on canadian college radio ahead of Nirvana's Nevermind. they were very good live and both their albums are great to listen to full through...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Elkegqa9Ulw



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shineoftheever
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Canada
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Posted - 09/12/2013 :  15:29:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
canadian perspective - this album debuted on canadian college radio ahead of Nirvana's Nevermind. they were very good live and both their albums are great to listen to full through...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Elkegqa9Ulw



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