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Classic Masher
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 Posted - 09/30/2013 : 02:28:03
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Originally posted by Grotesque
It's really strange to be forced to listen to the live versions of these new songs to feel their true nature and emotion. Especially indie cindy and what goes boom, i feel i really discovered them with the live versions. Indie Cindy's chorus got some kind of sadness you really dont hear on the studio version. And the crazy rocknroll aspect of what goes boom is not on the ep version neither. It's like the difference between fresh and frozen! The shape is there, not the taste. I guess the important thing is that underneath the ice, the good song are there! It makes me think to the Gun Club's Miami. Dig for fire (of love)!
I agree. I kind of hope, if they ever decide to do an album, they go into the studio with Kim S and re-record Andro Queen, Indie Cindy and What Goes Boom. Maybe these EP's will be like a bunch of Come On Pilgrims and they'll release an album with re-recorded songs from them and some new ones (like they did with Surfer Rosa).
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billgoodman
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Posted - 09/30/2013 : 03:05:57
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I hope they bang out new new songs. Never been a fan of re-recording.
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lucmove
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Posted - 09/30/2013 : 06:15:17
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Originally posted by Classic Masher
Maybe these EP's will be like a bunch of Come On Pilgrims and they'll release an album with re-recorded songs from them and some new ones (like they did with Surfer Rosa).
I don't know what you mean. Only "Vamos" is both in Come On Pilgrim and Surfer Rosa, and it's identical.
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vilainde
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Posted - 09/30/2013 : 06:18:02
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Identical?? You never quite 'got' the Pixies, did you?
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Brank_Flack
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
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Posted - 09/30/2013 : 06:19:46
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| I've actually changed my mind on the production and think a very good job has been done on it. It balances a dreamy sheen and spiky roughness very well. Plus, all the instruments are given room to breath. Sure live What Goes Boom might rock harder, but the recorded version has an otherworldy bossanova-esque feel. I hope they stick with Gil. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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Posted - 09/30/2013 : 08:10:26
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Originally posted by vilainde
Identical?? You never quite 'got' the Pixies, did you?
Denis
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Won't call them identical, but I don't really see the point of re-recording it in the first place. I like Surfer Rosa's best, but it's not like they really play it in another arrangement.
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lucmove
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Posted - 10/01/2013 : 19:40:17
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Of course villainde is joking, but billgoodman, are you serious? I am pretty sure it's the exact same recording. It sounds marginally better on Surfer Rosa, like a teeny bit clearer, or louder, or less 'muffled'. But the exact same session, I say.
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johnnyribcage
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Posted - 10/01/2013 : 20:35:38
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Originally posted by lucmove
Of course villainde is joking, but billgoodman, are you serious? I am pretty sure it's the exact same recording. It sounds marginally better on Surfer Rosa, like a teeny bit clearer, or louder, or less 'muffled'. But the exact same session, I say.
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Good god... Are you serious? The two Vamos takes in question are not even close. Are you trolling or what man?
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shineoftheever
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Canada
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Posted - 10/01/2013 : 22:31:40
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Originally posted by Jason
In one of the new interviews, Frank said something great. He said that he likes it when people argue over his music. He thinks that's a good thing--and I do, too. And I think that's a very wise position for a musician to take.
When people all over are arguing about your music, that means it's vital. When no one's arguing about it, that means nobody cares.
Also, I think Frank accepts that his music is, at heart, of "cult" appeal and he's a cult figure with a cult following (in the case of the Pixies, it's a big cult, but a cult nonetheless). And music/movies/books like that are typically born in controversy and maybe live forever in controversy. And that's not a bad thing. And I think Frank gets that and even enjoys that, which he should. I enjoy it, too, just as a fan.
maybe charles will take on a donnie darko personality - silly rabbit.
actually i agree 100% jason; i think he's given up over-analysing it yonks ago and frankly never gave a shit whether or not his work was accepted. if he is one thing it is uncompromising - the man does what he wants and the uber fan eats it up while others may fall to the wayside, we'll say "they don't get it" and it might matter to us that pitchfork scores it a 1 but really, it don't mean shit. he exists for us. and if we all stopped listening; well i like to believe he'll take up a trade and continue playing christmass concerts for his grandchildren...but we all know that will never happen (us stopping listening that is)
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floop
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Posted - 10/02/2013 : 05:52:42
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Originally posted by lucmove
Of course villainde is joking, but billgoodman, are you serious? I am pretty sure it's the exact same recording. It sounds marginally better on Surfer Rosa, like a teeny bit clearer, or louder, or less 'muffled'. But the exact same session, I say.
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wow. don't know what to say.
if you threw the Pilgrim version on Surfer Rosa it would stick out like a sore thumb, sonically. they clearly belong to the sessions they recorded each album in
just from memory (not breaking out cd): the Pilgrim version starts out with a slightly slower tempo. his acoustic guitar sounds way different in the intro, more beefy and more prominent. his screams in the middle are completely different. also cow sounds are only on the Pilgrim one, right? i'm willing to bet the lengths are different
i'm sure if you listen to both back to back you could easily pick out a list of difference but i'm on the commode
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OLDMANOTY
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Posted - 10/02/2013 : 05:56:50
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Ep-1 flows better, and makes more sense to me in this order (Bagboy included).
Bagboy
Indie Cindy
Andro Queen
What Goes Boom
Another Toe
...practically half a 'new album' there already!
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pixie punk
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Posted - 10/02/2013 : 06:05:40
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Originally posted by floop
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Originally posted by lucmove
Of course villainde is joking, but billgoodman, are you serious? I am pretty sure it's the exact same recording. It sounds marginally better on Surfer Rosa, like a teeny bit clearer, or louder, or less 'muffled'. But the exact same session, I say.
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wow. don't know what to say.
if you threw the Pilgrim version on Surfer Rosa it would stick out like a sore thumb, sonically. they clearly belong to the sessions they recorded each album in
just from memory (not breaking out cd): the Pilgrim version starts out with a slightly slower tempo. his acoustic guitar sounds way different in the intro, more beefy and more prominent. his screams in the middle are completely different. also cow sounds are only on the Pilgrim one, right? i'm willing to bet the lengths are different
i'm sure if you listen to both back to back you could easily pick out a list of difference but i'm on the commode 2:55 Pilgrim 4:19 Surfer Rosa versions approximately (from Youtube Videos).
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pixie punk
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Posted - 10/02/2013 : 06:16:27
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Originally posted by floop
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Originally posted by lucmove
Of course villainde is joking, but billgoodman, are you serious? I am pretty sure it's the exact same recording. It sounds marginally better on Surfer Rosa, like a teeny bit clearer, or louder, or less 'muffled'. But the exact same session, I say.
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wow. don't know what to say.
if you threw the Pilgrim version on Surfer Rosa it would stick out like a sore thumb, sonically. they clearly belong to the sessions they recorded each album in
just from memory (not breaking out cd): the Pilgrim version starts out with a slightly slower tempo. his acoustic guitar sounds way different in the intro, more beefy and more prominent. his screams in the middle are completely different. also cow sounds are only on the Pilgrim one, right? i'm willing to bet the lengths are different
i'm sure if you listen to both back to back you could easily pick out a list of difference but i'm on the commode 2:55 Pilgrim 4:19 Surfer Rosa versions approximately (from Youtube Videos).
green star member since 2006. smb?
PUERTO RICO PIXIE
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/interviews/interviews/the_classic_albums_pixies_surfer_rosa.html Here Joey Explained Everything about Surfer Rosa including the spliced guitar solos put together for the new version of Vamos that Albini suggested.
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lucmove
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Posted - 10/03/2013 : 07:55:53
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OK, there is something odd about my MP3 collection. "Vamos" sounds exactly the same in my Come On Pilgrim and Surfer Rosa folders. I checked and found out it is not... erm, correct. Maybe I replaced one with the other so long ago that I don't remember it. I know myself and I know that I may have done something like that, because I prefer the Surfer Rosa version.
I found the original "Vamos" in an outtakes folder and made the proper comparison. Yes, they are different. Sorry.
I also keep "Silver" in the outtakes folder. It belongs there.
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sdon
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Posted - 10/03/2013 : 09:20:20
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I don't value it much individually, but I actually like Silver as part of the album (even more since they played it live during the Doolittle tour), for its weird harmonies and as a respiration before Gouge Away
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natenate101
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Posted - 10/03/2013 : 13:26:53
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Originally posted by sdon
I don't value it much individually, but I actually like Silver as part of the album (even more since they played it live during the Doolittle tour), for its weird harmonies and as a respiration before Gouge Away
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"Aristophanes! (gong sounds)"
Same here, as comedown track at the end of the album, it works for me. Alone, not so sire. |
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shineoftheever
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Posted - 11/16/2013 : 20:40:08
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i don't want to read 10 pages.
did anybody point out the fact that the EP1 track listing is alphabetical? now we for sure know it was the REAL pixies that recorded this recording.
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1965
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Posted - 11/18/2013 : 11:03:58
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Originally posted by OLDMANOTY
Ep-1 flows better, and makes more sense to me in this order (Bagboy included).
Bagboy
Indie Cindy
Andro Queen
What Goes Boom
Another Toe
...practically half a 'new album' there already!
Re Vamos: Eh?
I like this sequence, works well!
But I also like Bagboy first followed by Andro Ocean Cindy Boom [EP1 as released]
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"Four New Songs" EP
