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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
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 Posted - 03/02/2013 : 03:49:24
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| There is something funny about FB's career: whenever he was letting a lot of the production to another guys (mainly Norton and Drew Feldman) most people (including me) were having an image of Frank Black as an omnipotent genius who could do everything he wants, and probably did controled everything anyway on these ambitious records. THEN when he really took control of the production (starting from The Cult Of Ray and Frank Black and the Catholics) everybody started to say "ooh wait this sounds way too normal": he probably wanted to sound more like himself (and this later gave us some masterpieces as Show Me Your Tears) but people wanted the crazy genius of the Orange Album booklet or the Teenage of the year cover... But that guy who could do anything didnt exist, or at least was not just one guy! The same goes for Lou Reed actually: apart from the words, he's much more into rock'n'roll that contemporary art (that was Cale and Warhol). As an audience, we were actually fooled by our own desire to locate some omnipotent exentric leader and not just an artist doing his job... I bet that's what FB got tired of and why he killed his Ziggy Stardust. |
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 03/02/2013 : 08:00:34
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this idea has sort of been floating around between my ears as i've lately been hooked on the Orange cd/Yellow album. Was it really EDF who took Frank's songs and ran with them? did Frank have much input into production?
seeing the difference between those 2 EDF albums and everything that followed does make it clear that those two were really collaborating.
and here's a thought- seeing how Frank hasn't played with a band in some years now, has he become the man who was too loud?
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6200 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2013 : 09:02:09
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danjersey
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
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Posted - 03/02/2013 : 09:07:07
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"But that guy who could do anything didnt exist, or at least was not just one guy!"
this sums it up nicely, Grotesque.
The solos of Lyle Workman come to mind. |
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Arm Arm Arm
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 03/02/2013 : 18:02:43
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Everyone he's collaborated with (Pixies, Eric, Catholics etc.) have had an undeniable impact on the finished songs and while I prefer him playing with a band, the foundation, the songs themselves, those unexpected chord changes that grow on you, unique lyrics and amazing melodies, are all Frank.
I think Frank's a songwriting genius who evolved. |
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Brank_Flack
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
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Posted - 03/03/2013 : 09:49:06
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he killed his Ziggy Stardust
