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matto
= Cult of Ray =

USA
954 Posts

Posted - 04/14/2010 :  07:29:39  Show Profile  Visit matto's Homepage  Reply with Quote
4/17/10 print NME (I don't have a scan -- can anyone supply?). Full list is:

Thom Yorke
Bill Callahan
Stuart Murdoch
Wild Beasts
Nick Cave
Stephin Merritt
Laura Marling
PJ Harvey
Stephen Malkmus
James Mercer
Frank Black
Jay Electronica
Bruce Springsteen
Alex Turner
Andy Falkous
James Murphy
Joanna Newsom
Jarvis Cocker
Damon Albarn
Paul Weller
Jamie T
Jay-Z
Morrissey

sminki pinki

eroticvultcha
- FB Fan -

Ireland
81 Posts

Posted - 04/14/2010 :  09:17:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
NME are a bit of a journalistic joke but fair on them for the nod to FB...


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Brank_Flack
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
1017 Posts

Posted - 04/14/2010 :  09:19:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good for Charles! I'm confused though about who they define as part of "today's" lyricists. I mean Bruce Springsteen made it, so maybe they're including older people, but no Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen or Neil Young?

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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1764 Posts

Posted - 04/14/2010 :  10:07:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, good on them for Frank and Joanna Newsom. John Darnielle better be there, too.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 04/14/2010 :  11:05:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I must be getting old (and less hip) because I only recognize about half of those names. I would have included David Byrne and TMBG.
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
2463 Posts

Posted - 04/14/2010 :  11:05:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not being funny, but I'd put Eddie Argos in there too.
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1301 Posts

Posted - 04/14/2010 :  11:42:26  Show Profile  Visit johnnyribcage's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Bah, this list is bupkis.



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jackruby
- FB Fan -

USA
71 Posts

Posted - 04/14/2010 :  12:42:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tom Waits, Young, Cohen, Dylan, Bowie, and don't forget Becker & Fagan!

How does "the Boss" keep popping up on these "all time greatest ----" lists? I mean, maybe I could take him seriously if only he would write a song that gave some insight as to the nation in which he was born. And then to make sure nobody forgets, repeated the information 714 times in 3 minutes in voice that reminds one of donkey passing a kidney stone. Now THAT would be a hit song.


Edited by - jackruby on 04/14/2010 12:44:20
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 04/14/2010 :  13:23:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You should listen to Nebraska.
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3111 Posts

Posted - 04/14/2010 :  16:45:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No Lucinda Williams or Josh Ritter either. Absolute joke of a list.
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <

Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts

Posted - 04/14/2010 :  19:49:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If I was still an NME reading young fart I'd probably go along with it. Anyhow it's good to see a couple of my favorites aren't forgotten.

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joe FITZ of molly BANG
= Cult of Ray =

USA
349 Posts

Posted - 04/14/2010 :  21:54:57  Show Profile  Visit joe FITZ of molly BANG's Homepage  Reply with Quote
nebraska is an essential album.

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Brank_Flack
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
1017 Posts

Posted - 04/15/2010 :  04:27:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nebraska and the Seeger Sessions, but after that it's mostly miss for me.

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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 04/15/2010 :  04:32:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ghosts of Tom Joad is also good, I think.
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1758 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2010 :  02:34:38  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Going out to Llano
Going out to look for Aldous Huxley
There between the power lines
And the purple flowers of mescaline

If you really want to
You can practice esperanto
But in the land of pronto
The wind it tastes like gasoline


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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7443 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2010 :  03:33:24  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Strangely, the quote used by the NME to illustrate Frank's choice is the first verse of Monkey Gone To Heaven, which (IMO) is anecdotic.
Even more strangely, they name him as "Frank Black", then go on saying that his best work as a lyricist was during the Pixies era and then from when he reversed his stage name back to Black Francis, and imply that as Frank Black he wasn't as good a lyricist. Ah well, good ole NME...

The scan is here:

http://cookingvinyl.com/press/Black+Francis/NME_17April10.JPG.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1


Denis

"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say."
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jackruby
- FB Fan -

USA
71 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2010 :  08:21:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by darwin

You should listen to Nebraska.



You know what...?
I think I will. I've been told to so many times--and by many people whose musical sensibilities are aligned with my own. It's been 4-5 years since I last attempted (couldn;t do it). I'll get back to you.
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danjersey
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
2792 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2010 :  11:21:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by darwin

You should listen to Nebraska.



through headphones
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2010 :  11:52:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Or sitting in your car pulled off to the side of a dirt road in the middle of the night.
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Idalgo Clandestino
- FB Fan -

Yugoslavia
104 Posts

Posted - 04/18/2010 :  11:23:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

How does "the Boss" keep popping up on these "all time greatest ----" lists? I mean, maybe I could take him seriously if only he would write a song that gave some insight as to the nation in which he was born. And then to make sure nobody forgets, repeated the information 714 times in 3 minutes in voice that reminds one of donkey passing a kidney stone. Now THAT would be a hit song.


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funny remark!

you probably thought i'm a shy guy
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joe FITZ of molly BANG
= Cult of Ray =

USA
349 Posts

Posted - 04/25/2010 :  05:51:11  Show Profile  Visit joe FITZ of molly BANG's Homepage  Reply with Quote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_in_the_U.S.A._(song)


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joe FITZ of molly BANG
= Cult of Ray =

USA
349 Posts

Posted - 04/25/2010 :  05:54:18  Show Profile  Visit joe FITZ of molly BANG's Homepage  Reply with Quote
the portland mercury once had a cool article about the boss entitled sometihng like, and i'm paraphrasing "why the boss is so cool"

and it had a list of like ten things that were actually really cool. and i wish i kept it. because i conveniently can't remember most of them. but one of them was he made a cameo on a lou reed album in the 70's. I think he also worked with patty smith on something.

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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2010 :  07:19:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
NME.COM - The Greatest Lyricists In The World Today - Pixies - Frank Black.
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1301 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2010 :  17:31:12  Show Profile  Visit johnnyribcage's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Idalgo Clandestino


How does "the Boss" keep popping up on these "all time greatest ----" lists? I mean, maybe I could take him seriously if only he would write a song that gave some insight as to the nation in which he was born. And then to make sure nobody forgets, repeated the information 714 times in 3 minutes in voice that reminds one of donkey passing a kidney stone. Now THAT would be a hit song.




Well... I'm not a big Boss fan - I can't stand his voice, so I have a hard time listening to anything he does. That said, his lyrics, which are the point in question, are pretty damn interesting and impressive. Born in the USA is an annoying 80's song that was and still is misinterpreted, like most of his stuff, as being highly flag-wavin', rootin' tootin', toss yer fishin' pole in the pickup and crack open a Budweiser patriotic. In actuality, it's a song about Vietnam, and more generally, the negative nature and aftermath of war on its American participants. As lyrical poetry, a lot of his stuff, particularly the early stuff, is deep, moving, important, and relevant. However, I still don't like his music.



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Edited by - johnnyribcage on 05/03/2010 17:43:31
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