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Jose Jones
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Posted - 09/13/2009 :  11:01:56  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Z is the best album (or at least my favorite) by My Morning Jacket because it does everything MMJ does best in 10 perfect songs. albums always get extra points in my book if they have 10 songs. i love the production- the vibe. the album art sort of colors the music for me. that slick black and turquoise- it fits the music so well.

my favorite MMJ song is "the way that he sings," but my favorite album is definitely Z.

does this read like a 5th grade writing assignment? so be it.

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Superabounder
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 09/13/2009 :  13:23:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Man Jose, that is a tough one. I just had to listen to Z again. I think I'm going to have to choose "It Still Moves" just based on the music (not so much the cover art / song count). I think the slower songs on It Still Moves are so spectacularly beautiful and there are also some great faster songs which push it over the top for me personally. Heck, this has been one of my favorite bands for years and I love Z also, so hard to say, but that's my final answer.




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Jose Jones
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USA
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Posted - 09/13/2009 :  14:55:35  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i hope i made it clear that the music rules, too! the jam session in "lay low," the beauty of the first 3 tracks and the last 2. the rock'n'roll perfection of "anytime" and "off the record" (especially the latter's coda). and, as i said, it's in a digestible 10 tracks. it still moves is great, but it's got some love handles. i do like to snuggle those fleshy bits when the night gets chilly, though.

and for the record, i absolutely love Evil Urges. my respect for jim james and company went up a few notches with that one.

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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <

Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 09/14/2009 :  05:20:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
L'eau Rouge is the best album by The Young Gods because it's a perfect 10 song slab (take note Jose) that lived up to all the promise of their (album of the year) debut. They did with L'eau Rouge what Pixies did a little later with Doolittle IMO; take the idea of high drama as pure artifice to an extreme conclusion but by way of intelligent sampling/looping of classical string and heavy rock guitar. This innovation in music was so right at that time I remember. It hasn't dated because it was referencing an earlier European era anyway. Listen here http://www.we7.com/#/album/LEau-Rouge-Red-Water!albumId=194314

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TarTar
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Posted - 09/17/2009 :  04:36:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"Pass the Distance" is the best album by Simon Finn because it contains the song "Jerusalem", go here and listen, you WON'T regret it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ9H2HY7ogY

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TarTar
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Posted - 09/17/2009 :  04:39:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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They did with L'eau Rouge what Pixies did a little later with Doolittle IMO


Doolittle was released April 1989, L'eau Rouge September 1989.

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trobrianders
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Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 09/17/2009 :  06:38:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Gods toured L'eau Rouge 88. BF hates to take credit for loud-quiet-loud. His touring partners the Muses, who had a full year on Pixies, were also exploiting that dynamic an album earlier. I think BF is right to refuse credit for it, just as Cobain was when he popularised it even further.

Something was in the air and a lot of bands were picking up on it. That's how I remember it.

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TarTar
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Posted - 09/19/2009 :  14:41:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Although guitar distortion isn't at the heart of the quiet verse, loud chorus in this particular example, I believe the song "Mushroom" by Can predates the quiet verse/loud chorus of the Pixies or anyone else in the 80s by over 15 years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8RzLdf34Ow

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danjersey
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
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Posted - 09/19/2009 :  20:58:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This Conversation Is Ending - by Knapsack, is the best album ever because I say so. Really though, from start to finish the songs on this album compete and complete one another from start to finish. And when it's over you won't be able to hit repeat fast enough.
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trobrianders
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Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 09/20/2009 :  01:56:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TarTar

Although guitar distortion isn't at the heart of the quiet verse, loud chorus in this particular example, I believe the song "Mushroom" by Can predates the quiet verse/loud chorus of the Pixies or anyone else in the 80s by over 15 years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8RzLdf34Ow

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Even though I couldn't understand the words of the chorus I'd still guess the loudness of it was made in some intelligible context, I could be wrong. BF's screams of 'ride a tire' are specifically made in no intelligible context. There's no emotion to explain anger, no suspense to explain horror. The screams are pure construct and could only have been widely accepted and applauded in the eighties. BF would have been dismissed as a popular artist if he'd made those kinds of 'mad' screams 15 years earlier.

In 1986 David Lynch had Frank Booth make similar outbursts out of context in Blue Velvet and earned his reputation as a cinematic visionary. Actors since have had more license to show unexplainable motivations. Popular music too became richer, deeper, more complex after Pixies. Plot and meaning aren't 'explained away' as much as before. Mid eighties - something was going on. The bar got raised, the subconscious got treated with a little more respect.

Surrealists embraced idiosyncrasy, while rejecting the idea of an underlying madness or darkness of the mind. Dali explained it as "There is only one difference between a madman and me. I am not mad." We had to wait for the eighties before the mainstream again begain hailing artists like BF, Lynch and others as heroes not madmen. Can were innovative but aren't remembered for breaking through.

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Jose Jones
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USA
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Posted - 09/20/2009 :  05:21:10  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by trobrianders

BF's screams of 'ride a tire' are specifically made in no intelligible context. There's no emotion to explain anger, no suspense to explain horror.
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the scream "solo" in vamos after joey's solo. ah!...ah! definitely doesn't appeal to typical teenage angst. i had little to no angst at that age, but his screams sure did/do exhilarate me. my manta ray's all right. ALL RIGHT. AAAAAAALLLLL RIGHT.

Mclusky has the same effect on me. it's feel-good music, despite said supposed anger and legitimate horror.

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trobrianders
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Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 10/09/2009 :  11:02:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jose Jones

quote:
Originally posted by trobrianders

BF's screams of 'ride a tire' are specifically made in no intelligible context. There's no emotion to explain anger, no suspense to explain horror.
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the scream "solo" in vamos after joey's solo. ah!...ah! definitely doesn't appeal to typical teenage angst. i had little to no angst at that age, but his screams sure did/do exhilarate me. my manta ray's all right. ALL RIGHT. AAAAAAALLLLL RIGHT.

Mclusky has the same effect on me. it's feel-good music, despite said supposed anger and legitimate horror.

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Pixies sound often gets described as non-human (demonic or at least primal). Usually it's said to echo the shocking sounds of nature-animal, nature-physical or industry. So stuck pig vocals, chain-bell guitars etc. With Surfer Rosa I also formed associations between what I was hearing and bodily function. I guess Vaughn Oliver's artwork was more influential too than I like to admit.

What I particularly love about Vamos's scream solo is its wild adherence to the logic of three. Even animals scream in numerical patterns. I remember BF talking about his mathematical approach to music. I'd love to read an artful breakdown of the music of Vamos, the kind that Ben Sisario provided in his 33 1/3 Doolittle.

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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 10/09/2009 :  16:46:39  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
so true about Surfer Rosa's primal... weirdness. but what's hilarious is the conversation interludes (you fuckin die, there were rumors he was into field hockey players) because all of the sudden you're struck that normal people are making this music.

i first heard actual pixies music when i bought death to the pixies. i was immediately struck by the alienness of his voice. who is this guy? what does he look like? is he mexican? WTF?

no, no, i was talking to kim.

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trobrianders
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Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 10/11/2009 :  23:34:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jose Jones

the scream "solo" in vamos

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Best thing about it. It got repeated in Dead, my favorite song period. Aow.. Aow... Aow.

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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 10/28/2009 :  06:06:19  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The Mollusk by WEEN is the best ween album because i say it is.

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Broken Face
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Posted - 10/28/2009 :  06:25:08  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jose Jones

The Mollusk by WEEN is the best ween album because i say it is.

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I agree. But i think WHITE PEPPER gives it a run for its money at times.

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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 10/28/2009 :  07:48:14  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Broken Face

quote:
Originally posted by Jose Jones

The Mollusk by WEEN is the best ween album because i say it is.

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I agree. But i think WHITE PEPPER gives it a run for its money at times.

- Brian



oh, they all do, brian. they all do. except la cucaracha.

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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 11/08/2009 :  10:16:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by trobrianders

[quote]Originally posted by TarTar

Mid eighties - something was going on. The bar got raised, the subconscious got treated with a little more respect.


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Ooooooohhh this is such a GREAT sentance! Love it! I might have to use it as my little signature thingy soon!

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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <

Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 11/08/2009 :  23:33:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ha! That would be a shame cos you've already got one of the better signature thingies. As for Dalton; sometimes brute force and Zen oneness is the only thing that can get you out of a hole.

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pot
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Posted - 11/10/2009 :  03:01:25  Show Profile  Visit pot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Fever Ray by Fever Ray is the best album by Fever Ray because it's the only album they have released so far...

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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 11/10/2009 :  08:53:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by trobrianders

As for Dalton; sometimes brute force and Zen oneness is the only thing that can get you out of a hole.

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...or out of a Road House!

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