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trobrianders
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 Posted - 02/05/2013 : 13:08:49
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saw it last night. by myself. at 10pm.
i couldn't tear my eyes away. i'm sort of baffled by it, though. i've been trying to understand what it is Anderson is showing us. not a plot, for certain. not any substantial character growth. i guess just two men, their similarities, their differences, their relationship.
amazing performances and, unsurprisingly, a beautiful film. as for the ever-dreaded "point" of the whole thing, well, Dude, we just don't know. but i don't regret a single second of it.
i'm a little surprised to see so many critics place this work above There Will Be Blood, to be honest. there is a certain delight to contemplating something so incessantly after viewing it, though. when i think about TWBB i think of all the things i love about it. with The Master i'm just left thinking about it. wondering about it.
my brow has been fixed in a contemplative furrow for twelve hours now. even in sleep, i'm certain of it.
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i had a breakthrough over lunch. turns out your brain works better if you eat well.
i think the idea is who really needs help here? is Master really in a position to offer help? isn't he just as loony as Freddie, though less prone to violence? doesn't it seem Freddie is calmer after having left the Cause, and he sees the Master and his wife as the crazies they actually are? he did seem to learn something from the Cause, but left the nutty stuff behind (as seen in his sex scene at the end). it was "healthy" sex, after all. nothing about Dodd's final encounter with Freddie seemed particularly healthy.
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Finally saw it. And I get why it only left you able to give impressions rather than a tidy explanation. I can't say anything for certain about the movie. I loved it, probably more than any other PT Anderson movie and I've loved them all (except Punch Drunk Love)
Never got to know Johnny Greenwood cos I didn't pay much attention to Radiohead but his scoring is out of this world. You could almost say the moving images provide a context to 'get' his score, it's that good.
As for the two men, I was engrossed throughout. There wasn't a single false note from either of them to break the spell. I can't imagine how they got to the places they did to tell that particular story. It was mesmerising. I think it's enough to show how mysterious intimacy is. It's mysterious to us all.
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Jose Jones
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Posted - 02/05/2013 : 16:23:08
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yeah, that strikes a chord. it's a relationship. it's beneficial and detrimental and contradictory. and beautiful and ugly and understandable and baffling.
trobes, nevermind the hype, check out some radiohead. maybe their latest "king of limbs" if you prefer "remain in light" to "little creatures."
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 02/06/2013 : 12:16:11
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I will. I've already got hold of In Rainbows, had it for some time, so I'll start there I guess. Really liking The Master soundtrack at the moment.
Saw Bernie by the way. I usually enjoy slice of smalltown America movies and Bernie was fun to watch.
Saw The Impossible last night. Wasn't prepared for just how gutwrenching and heartwrenching it would be. It felt like a Spielberg movie like Empire of the Sun but directed by Nic Roeg. Woke up this morning still very much feeling its effects. Bloody hell! Some movie!
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 02/12/2013 : 12:42:17
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Any of you bastards seen looper?
I just caught that the other day but apparently I'm the last to know. What an epic film. Have I already gotten drunk and posted about this? Anyway- brilliantly directed cult classic in the making. I've already watched it 3/4 times and I'm going to watch it again, even films I really like these days I rarely watch twice. this is something indeed special. I love his style, the way he so lucidly takes you into a believable future without going over the top in special effects or props. Very convincing. I love this film to bits and it's very emotional in parts as well, outstanding child acting from the child in it.
I've seen a lot of good films in the past few years but few I consider to be real gems like this, it's my top ten best sci fi art movies ever.
It also has the symbol 'OO' in it like my favourite scifi film and favourite ever film of all time 2001.
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Jose Jones
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Posted - 02/12/2013 : 17:14:44
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i've heard only positive things. i should go put that in my Netflix cue.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 02/12/2013 : 17:59:27
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check it out asap. it is a very cryptic film though, and I don't knkw yet myself if there is some hidden meaning behind some of it. I keep finding new things about it, total mark of a good film. Whether or not it's flawless in terms of the the entire plotline it's still a very good film. like most other films of it's genre and time it doesn't go over the top, it's very subtle in a lot of ways
it feels like a parody of a lot films as well, whether that's intended or not I don't know
it's not cryptic to the level where it's boring, it makes it more interesting the more times you watch it. Even if you have no idea what is going on it's still a joy to watch, it's the kind of film that you can jump in anywhere and enjoy it even though you have no idea what the plot is, and that is a true mark of a good film. There are not many that can do that. And it's greety, or as you say in America emotional. There are not many things these days that can challenge my ability to contain my emotions but the scenes where !SPOILERALERT! the boy stops having a crazy Shining fit and wants his mum just cuts me the fuck up every time, great parts played and directed here. Asides from a few slight flaws in the flow/continuinity otherwise this is a masterpiece of the kind that doesn't come along in a decade. Look forward to more from this director. He did a few breaking bad and is the director on one of the forth coming final season.
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Jose Jones
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Posted - 02/15/2013 : 02:00:37
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watched the first half of Batman3 (as i will insist on referring to it) last night. i look forward to the 2nd half.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 02/16/2013 : 19:50:56
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I've watched the first 15-23 minutes of the new Batman film, which is not Batman 3, and it bored the shit out of me. Same with Spiderman. Not ever worth a look. I didn't even like Batman TV series when I was toddler, it was also boring. I still haven't watched either of those or feel inclined, even though I didn't pay for them. Sue my ass
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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Posted - 02/17/2013 : 00:09:02
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fuck batman. And all superheroes movies. the only exceptions are the Burton flicks.
Yesterday I watched She Wore A Yellow Ribbon. Good stuff.
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Jose Jones
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Posted - 02/17/2013 : 03:28:23
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i finished batman3 (pot) last night. i enjoyed it, as i did batman1 and batman2 and all other Christopher Nolan films. pot.
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 02/17/2013 : 04:29:18
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Originally posted by vilainde
fuck batman. And all superheroes movies. the only exceptions are the Burton flicks.
Yesterday I watched She Wore A Yellow Ribbon. Good stuff.
Denis
Obsidiana Bijoux
Good superhero movies. Only one I can think of, Watchmen.
Burton zero storytelling. Look pretty tho.
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Jose Jones
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Posted - 02/17/2013 : 05:02:57
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i haven't seen Watchmen yet because i haven't read Watchmen yet.
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shineoftheever
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Posted - 02/17/2013 : 12:26:10
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TV just seems better than film lately.
and fuck 3d - those glasses are just plain uncomfortable and you have to pay more for it.
wanna see something wicked - check out Mega-Piranha. Eric Roberts and Tiffany (I think we're alone now). that's entertainment, haha.
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Carl
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Posted - 02/17/2013 : 16:50:56
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Originally posted by trobrianders
Good superhero movies. Only one I can think of, Watchmen.
Looks great and it's entertaining, but not a patch on Alan Moore's original. It almost slavishly follows the comic (apart from one major change), but that's actually the problem, it feels very stiff in places, and Zack Snyder is not so hot with dramatic stuff. I'm interested to see what he does with Superman, though. Oh yeah, and speaking of Alan Moore, must mention From Hell, which is watchable but a totally cleaned-up Hollywood version of the book, which is fucking brilliant. And let's not talk about The League of Extraordianary Gentlemen *shudder*, which actually caused Sean Connery to retire.
And speaking of Batman, The Dark Knight Rises was very disappointing... it looks fantastic and there's a lot of clever stuff, plus Anna Hathaway is fabulous and I liked Tom Hardy as Bane... but it just lacked the heart of the previous films (and Heath Ledger, for that matter). It felt a bit forced. And no amount of Alfred's blubbing can give it any 'depth'. |
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Srisaket
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Posted - 02/17/2013 : 18:18:52
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Originally posted by pot
I've watched the first 15-23 minutes of the new Batman film, which is not Batman 3, and it bored the shit out of me. Same with Spiderman. Not ever worth a look. I didn't even like Batman TV series when I was toddler, it was also boring. I still haven't watched either of those or feel inclined, even though I didn't pay for them. Sue my ass
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I watched the Batman TV series as a toddler as well. It was camp, funny and silly - good TV but they should have just left it there.
Every single one of the film versions have been absolute shite though.
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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Posted - 02/17/2013 : 21:43:01
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And let's not talk about The League of Extraordianary Gentlemen *shudder*, which actually caused Sean Connery to retire.
Makes you wonder why he didn't to that after The Avengers...
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trobrianders
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Posted - 02/18/2013 : 11:52:24
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Originally posted by trobrianders
Good superhero movies. Only one I can think of, Watchmen.
Looks great and it's entertaining, but not a patch on Alan Moore's original. It almost slavishly follows the comic (apart from one major change), but that's actually the problem, it feels very stiff in places, and Zack Snyder is not so hot with dramatic stuff. I'm interested to see what he does with Superman, though. Oh yeah, and speaking of Alan Moore, must mention From Hell, which is watchable but a totally cleaned-up Hollywood version of the book, which is fucking brilliant. And let's not talk about The League of Extraordianary Gentlemen *shudder*, which actually caused Sean Connery to retire.
And speaking of Batman, The Dark Knight Rises was very disappointing... it looks fantastic and there's a lot of clever stuff, plus Anna Hathaway is fabulous and I liked Tom Hardy as Bane... but it just lacked the heart of the previous films (and Heath Ledger, for that matter). It felt a bit forced. And no amount of Alfred's blubbing can give it any 'depth'.
The thing about Watchmen for me is I'm not the fanbase for that kind of movie AT ALL. But the storytelling was so good it kept me involved from those opening slo mo strands to Dylan all the way though to the trippy existential ending. Batman 3 was a bore but that's only because Nolan is a bore. His movies are becoming more and more like him. Great trimmings tho.
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The Maharal
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Posted - 02/19/2013 : 13:00:58
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The Grey. Liam Neeson and a few others survive a plane crash but find themselves stranded in wolf territory. Pretty good, better than I was expecting anyway.
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teenager94
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Posted - 02/22/2013 : 02:36:24
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I know this maybe stating the obvious, but anyway......... If you havn't seen 'touching the void' by Kevin McDonald take a look. It's based on a true story concerning 2 mountaneers in the Peruvian Andes. Amazing film. Also,'Rabbit Proof fence' by Phillip Noyce is worth a look, set in the Australian outback. Both are great 'survival' films. Saw the 'impossible' a few weeks ago, both of the above were way better.quote:
Originally posted by The Maharal
The Grey. Liam Neeson and a few others survive a plane crash but find themselves stranded in wolf territory. Pretty good, better than I was expecting anyway.
I really like survival films - Rescue Dawn is another I enjoyed a lot.
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floop
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Posted - 02/22/2013 : 04:10:43
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I know this maybe stating the obvious, but anyway......... If you havn't seen 'touching the void' by Kevin McDonald take a look. It's based on a true story concerning 2 mountaneers in the Peruvian Andes. Amazing film. Also,'Rabbit Proof fence' by Phillip Noyce is worth a look, set in the Australian outback. Both are great 'survival' films. Saw the 'impossible' a few weeks ago, both of the above were way better.quote:
Originally posted by The Maharal
The Grey. Liam Neeson and a few others survive a plane crash but find themselves stranded in wolf territory. Pretty good, better than I was expecting anyway.
I really like survival films - Rescue Dawn is another I enjoyed a lot.
those are both good ones (as well as Rescue Dawn). all based on true stories too. i recommend Touching The Void all the time. such a great film.
you ever watch Survivor Man? good show. don't know if it's on any more. that's like one of the only things i watch on tv
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teenager94
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Posted - 02/22/2013 : 05:38:06
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Never watched 'Survivor man'. Although, now you guys gave both suggested 'Rescue Dawn' I must give it a go...... quote:
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Originally posted by teenager94
I know this maybe stating the obvious, but anyway......... If you havn't seen 'touching the void' by Kevin McDonald take a look. It's based on a true story concerning 2 mountaneers in the Peruvian Andes. Amazing film. Also,'Rabbit Proof fence' by Phillip Noyce is worth a look, set in the Australian outback. Both are great 'survival' films. Saw the 'impossible' a few weeks ago, both of the above were way better.quote:
Originally posted by The Maharal
The Grey. Liam Neeson and a few others survive a plane crash but find themselves stranded in wolf territory. Pretty good, better than I was expecting anyway.
I really like survival films - Rescue Dawn is another I enjoyed a lot.
those are both good ones (as well as Rescue Dawn). all based on true stories too. i recommend Touching The Void all the time. such a great film.
you ever watch Survivor Man? good show. don't know if it's on any more. that's like one of the only things i watch on tv
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tisasawath
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Posted - 02/22/2013 : 21:41:08
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i wouldn't say Nordwand in the same breath as Touching the Void, but it's the same element and also a true and impressive story and a well made film.
not so fun trivia about Touching, told by a climber friend: after the incident poor Yates was in the climbing circles reffered to as Mr. Knife. |
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Jose Jones
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Posted - 02/23/2013 : 11:06:07
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ok, just watched Touching the Void. streaming on Netflix.
christ almighty.
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trobrianders
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Posted - 02/23/2013 : 17:18:29
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Talking of the The Impossible, two Nic Roeg survival movies that influenced it; Walkabout and Castaway are very good. Also I like Peter Weir and am thinking of looking up another survival movie, The Way Back.
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teenager94
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Posted - 02/24/2013 : 02:52:49
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yep, that's a pretty much describes the impact that it has........quote:
Originally posted by Jose Jones
ok, just watched Touching the Void. streaming on Netflix.
christ almighty.
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teenager94
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Posted - 02/24/2013 : 03:01:46
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Yeah, I enjoyed Castaway, Oliver Reed in fine form. Also, Walkabout brings back real memories as I remember the book from 2nd year English class.The books regarded as a bit of a classic.quote:
Originally posted by trobrianders
Talking of the The Impossible, two Nic Roeg survival movies that influenced it; Walkabout and Castaway are very good. Also I like Peter Weir and am thinking of looking up another survival movie, The Way Back.
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Jose Jones
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Posted - 02/24/2013 : 04:02:16
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not so fun trivia about Touching, told by a climber friend: after the incident poor Yates was in the climbing circles reffered to as Mr. Knife.
ludicrous, seeing how Simpson said he'd have done the same thing, and it turns out they both would have died if he hadn't.
at any point during excursions like the one depicted, do the climbers think to themselves "i don't have to be here right now. i could be sitting on my couch. why did i choose to be on the side of a wall of ice 20,000 feet above the ground in the middle of nowhere for 4 days straight."
i can't wrap my head around anyone wanting to do this, let alone succeeding.
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tisasawath
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Posted - 02/24/2013 : 08:43:44
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i think besides the challenge of beating or overpowering nature in its most monumental form there's the allure of no other feeling of being alive that is more intense or euphoric than after a survival experience, beating death or something close to resembling it. a couch could be interesting when dodging its fall from a few stories above.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 02/26/2013 : 20:19:30
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i finished batman3 (pot) last night. i enjoyed it, as i did batman1 and batman2 and all other Christopher Nolan films. pot.
I never got into Batman ever, maybe because I'm not really that into gay bdsm sex costumes but otherwise I'm sure they are all worth watching.
I decided to watch Looper again tonight, the second half. I love that film to bits, a find new meaning in it every time I watch it. Not that much, but I'm still trying to figure it all out. I'm not sure if it's possible to do that. Anyway you see you things in it each time, which is a very high accolade to attribute to a film. Few films make me want to go back for more but this one has firmly grabbed me by the nuts. I can't work out if there really is that much more depth to it or it's just the director is a genius. Every scene in it is epic, the kind of shit you watch and while you are watching it you imagine what people might b saying about it in 20 years time on a nostalgia show. If i can be critical i think it needs time to breath a bit more in between scenes, otherwise the scenes are epic, even if there is no absolute sense to made of it. It's a scifi cum art movie, lends itself to many before and done so well. The film world is missing directors like this to just make a film and stay away from fancy special effects and concentrate on creating an imaginary fantasy world. I think he has done remarkably well to create this future dystopian reality, some of the scenes in it are so lucid I can almost believe it really is the future.
And 2044 ... 2074?
Why not 2012 and 2072?
I think I know, because it's 30 year intervals from 1984... 2014 ... 2044... 2074. A 4-fold 90 year timeline. Is that why he chose those years? it certainly bears thinking about.
Lots of hidden things in it. I love films like that. Kubrick films are a good exmaple of that, every time you watch them you find something new. That's what cinema is about and I'm so glad there are directors around today who can stand out from the rest of the film world.
Fuck the Oscars man, in a way I'm glad this didn't take anything.
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The Maharal
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Posted - 02/27/2013 : 03:54:36
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Thanks for the survival film suggestions folks. Will try a few of those in the coming weeks. Over the last few days I've watched these:
Being Flynn - Robert De Niro actually doing a serious role and doing it well! Thought it was a pretty well-done drama that didn't resort to schmaltzy sentimentality. Incentive to watch: The return of Robert De Niro the actor.
I Went Down - Irish crime caper. It's decent without ever being great. Incentive to watch: Brendan Gleeson playing a low-level criminal.
The Debt - thriller about Mossad agents hunting down an ex-Nazi. Apparently some folk thought it was slow, which I find a bit strange; it's good entertainment. Incentive to watch: Jessica Chastain.
Kontroll - comedy-drama about a group of hapless ticket inspectors in Budapest. Loved this - it's poignant/hilarious/sad/gripping in equal measure. Incentive to watch: the previous sentence.
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trobrianders
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Posted - 02/27/2013 : 09:03:46
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The Grey. Liam Neeson and a few others survive a plane crash but find themselves stranded in wolf territory. Pretty good, better than I was expecting anyway.
I really like survival films - Rescue Dawn is another I enjoyed a lot.
I didn't really like The Grey. Seemed it wasn't well informed about surviving that situation at all. It kept going off into poetic interludes to hide its lack of brain.
I'm really into seeing Rescue Dawn. King Herzog I could survive anything I'm sure. Anyone here like Ray Mears?
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The Maharal
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Posted - 02/27/2013 : 11:42:47
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Don't be expecting the usual Herzog weirdness (not a criticism) - Rescue Dawn must be his most accessible film. He actually did a documentary (Little Dieter Learns To Fly) on the same person it's based on. Worth checking out too.
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Posted - 02/27/2013 : 11:44:00
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Originally posted by tisasawath
not so fun trivia about Touching, told by a climber friend: after the incident poor Yates was in the climbing circles reffered to as Mr. Knife.
ludicrous, seeing how Simpson said he'd have done the same thing, and it turns out they both would have died if he hadn't.
at any point during excursions like the one depicted, do the climbers think to themselves "i don't have to be here right now. i could be sitting on my couch. why did i choose to be on the side of a wall of ice 20,000 feet above the ground in the middle of nowhere for 4 days straight."
i can't wrap my head around anyone wanting to do this, let alone succeeding.
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the first time I saw the film I was by myself in a theatre. was literally on the edge of my seat. thought I was going to have a heart attack
watching that film made me realize I never need to go mountain climbing. subtract that one from the bucket list
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trobrianders
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Posted - 02/27/2013 : 22:47:07
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Adding two eco survival movies to the list; Safe and Take Shelter. They may be more about psychological survival but they're both brilliant on the elements too.
Yeah Little Dieter was great. The BBC is good about showing Herzog docs.
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The Maharal
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Posted - 02/28/2013 : 03:21:53
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| Take Shelter is fantastic. It was destined to please me before I even watched it with both Jessica Chastain and Michael Shannon starring. The latter is just superb at playing those sort of roles, his face is so intense. |
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