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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
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Posted - 11/28/2012 :  11:23:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Arm Arm Arm


If the Pixies are an otherworldy band, the Catholics are rooted here to the Earth, in ground and flame and the night's vastness between the F# and the C# minor chords.


Yes!


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If all you see is violins, then I make a plea in their defense.
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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 11/28/2012 :  18:01:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by coastline

quote:
Originally posted by Arm Arm Arm


If the Pixies are an otherworldy band, the Catholics are rooted here to the Earth, in ground and flame and the night's vastness between the F# and the C# minor chords.


Yes!


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If all you see is violins, then I make a plea in their defense.



that is well put

green star member since 2006. smb?
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <

Canada
4307 Posts

Posted - 11/28/2012 :  21:17:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Arm Arm Arm

I think they'll definitely be appreciated the more time goes on, more people discovering the music. Just off the top of my head, here's a random sampling of Catholics songs and they're all fantastic: Bullet, Robert Onion, Valentine & Garuda, How You Went So Far, Solid Gold, I forgot the title but the "your noose is going to break song" from the first album, Fields of Marigold, So. Bay, So Hard To Make Things Out, St. Francis, Massif Centale,...these are all great songs that will, I believe, be found by more and more listeners as time goes on.

While the Catholics have the feel of Great Bar Band, the songwriting is just amazing. Catchy, rocking, soulful and in some cases, with that peculiarity of needing a few listens to really understand what's going on and why it is so good.

If the Pixies are an otherworldy band, the Catholics are rooted here to the Earth, in ground and flame and the night's vastness between the F# and the C# minor chords.



i have trouble remembering song names sometimes too! that's dog gone though, i believe.

i believe the Pixies and the catholics are kinda equal in most regards, I think the Catholics benefited from a more mature Frank - especially the songwriting.

Teenager is still the best! What does that tell ya?




20th Anniversary Tour; Teenager Of The Year: Live and Complete - Coming Soon in 2014 to your favorite venue!
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <

Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts

Posted - 11/29/2012 :  01:47:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arm Arm Arm

I think they'll definitely be appreciated the more time goes on, more people discovering the music. Just off the top of my head, here's a random sampling of Catholics songs and they're all fantastic: Bullet, Robert Onion, Valentine & Garuda, How You Went So Far, Solid Gold, I forgot the title but the "your noose is going to break song" from the first album, Fields of Marigold, So. Bay, So Hard To Make Things Out, St. Francis, Massif Centale,...these are all great songs that will, I believe, be found by more and more listeners as time goes on.

While the Catholics have the feel of Great Bar Band, the songwriting is just amazing. Catchy, rocking, soulful and in some cases, with that peculiarity of needing a few listens to really understand what's going on and why it is so good.

If the Pixies are an otherworldy band, the Catholics are rooted here to the Earth, in ground and flame and the night's vastness between the F# and the C# minor chords.

Pretty but didn't you hear what I said. The Catholics era will not be reevaluated cos I said so. I know cos I am grumbly.

Grumbling is getting me nowhere!

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fbc
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/29/2012 :  03:01:02  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Haha are you ok, tro? Please don't take your ball with you when you go home for tea.
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <

Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts

Posted - 11/29/2012 :  11:18:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm good. The ball stays. The Catholics may experience some wider appreciation over time but even that won't make waves. No sense in grumbling.

We do better to keep passing the ball and stop worrying about nicking a cheap goal.

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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *

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Posted - 11/30/2012 :  04:02:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They're a cult band and there's nothing wrong with that.
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gotmeamovie
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158 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2012 :  18:27:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
love them but they dont have that long sustained listening that you mite have with franks solo albums or pixies. the cd doesnt stay in your car for 2 weeks. i think the lead work is the major let down with catholics, love the drumming though

"I could take a walk and really wonder, really wonder"
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Bohemoth
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USA
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Posted - 12/09/2012 :  09:52:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't know about the don't have the long sustained listening their has been catholics music in my truck for going on 2 decades. Is far as this thread is i never stoped evaluating the catholics. those where the days man! catholics where road warriors they used to tour like crazy! and drove themselves set up there own equipment.finally frank bought that big van that could hall their stuff after the trailer got stole. that last trip they did in the US spring of 03 they did hire a tour bus though. i must have seen them 50 times in those days between 98 and 03. they are long gone now but I still got all the bootlegs to listen too
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teenager94
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Ireland
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Posted - 12/19/2012 :  07:52:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Very nice reading a review of that amazing gig!! Takes me back... The thing about lack of general acclaim is so true. I remember for example when 'Pistolero' came out and barely a good word was said.... I listen to it now and think how underrated it was. There truely was lack of recognition, but the music still sounds so good.
quote:
Originally posted by fbc

some setlists can be found 'ere


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It is true that Frank Black and The Catholics have not yet generated a great deal of
commercial or critical acclaim, but it is also true that they know exactly how to make great
music, and, more to the point, they have at their helm one of the all-time greats of songwriting.

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A deafening chorus of cheers brings the band back for a four song encore, including the Pogues-esque
When Will Happiness Find Me Again. Although a second encore is called for but not received, it is clear
that a unique brand of happiness has found us all again, for one night at least. Long may Frank Black
and his Catholics induce this kind of genuine excitement throughout the gigging world.



http://www.musicomh.com/music/gigs/frank-black.htm


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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <

Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts

Posted - 12/19/2012 :  08:29:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by teenager94

Very nice reading a review of that amazing gig!! Takes me back... The thing about lack of general acclaim is so true. I remember for example when 'Pistolero' came out and barely a good word was said.... I listen to it now and think how underrated it was. There truely was lack of recognition, but the music still sounds so good.

Are you trying to get me all grumbly? It won't work.

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lucmove
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Brazil
116 Posts

Posted - 12/28/2012 :  23:33:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Guilty as charged. I disliked the Catholics era for a long time, always craving more material like FB (Yellow) and TOTY.

But I dutifully repent nowadays. I reevaluate those records often and I think they were really great.

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Stevio10
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1073 Posts

Posted - 01/05/2013 :  00:50:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The thing that really amazes me about the Catholics (even more so now than at the time) is the evolution of the sound of the band. Brown album and Pistolero are great - id consider the band amazing if these 2 albums were their only output - but the evolution of the band from these 2 albums to Dog in the Sand is completely extraordinary. Although we had Oddballs and SSMVGD inbetween DITS took the band to another level.

In terms of them ever being re-evaluated, I guess it depends on a lot of things but the longer FB continues to make music and a presence in the music business then I guess there will always be some degree of interest in his past. There is always film - Trainspotting and Fight Club put Iggy Pop and the Pixies right up there so who knows.
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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
1592 Posts

Posted - 01/05/2013 :  01:37:17  Show Profile  Visit hammerhands's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Tarantino could make use of Western Star.
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Arm Arm Arm
* Dog in the Sand *

1034 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2013 :  10:31:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I didn't really care for most of their first album, then one day it clicked and I was surprised I didn't recognize the greatness in Solid Gold, amongst others. The same thing has happened with Show Me Your Tears; I thought it was too mellow, too country but all of a sudden I love it; another great album and if it is indeed the last Catholics records, a high point to go out on. The evolution of their sound, from rock to Frank's version of country rock, is pretty amazing.
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