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benji
> Teenager of the Year <
New Zealand
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 Posted - 10/23/2007 : 18:28:04
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i've thought about this a fair bit.
i'm interested in moments of musical brilliance...i don't mean entire songs or albums, i mean a few seconds during a song which just make you suddenly pay attention like you hadn't been previously, where you feel a shiver down your spine and goose bumps forming on your arms.....
if you don't know what i mean, i feel sorry for ya, but if you do, then come on, share....
no order here.....
1. on Mogwai Fear Satan by Mogwai at the 8:52 mark where the drums and bass die away, leaving just the high-pitched feedback from the guitars remaining...some flute comes in ever so quietly....it only lasts for about 8 seconds, but it is just beautiful.
2. at the 4:30 mark of Money by Pink Floyd - it's the bit where the bass kicks in loud and the guitar solo really gets going...just lovely...
3. on Never Tell by the Violent Femmes where there's a small bass solo lasting about 10 seconds, and right near the end you can hear someone in the studio saying "yeah" in a way that just tipifies great music for me....makes me fell like i am right there while they're recording it. now i don't know whether the bass solo is particularly tricky or whatever, or why the dude says "yeah" but it's just brilliant. and i love the song even more because of it.
4. BBF3 by Godspeed You! Black Emperor just when the crescendo at the end doesn't seem like it can get any bigger and faster and louder, and then whataya know, it does. sure, it took 13 minutes to get there, but that section makes the journey all the more worthwhile.
5. I Knew It Would Come To This by the Dirty Three. this is my funeral song, and it always moves me in ways that no other song ever has. but the section where the "chorus" starts over for the very last time (not a chorus cause it's an instrumental, but anyways) after just over 7 mins never fails to send a shiver down my spine. the pain and desperation contained within those 3 instruments at that time amazes me.
am i mad?
all i can say, thank god for polio! brian |
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2007 : 18:41:07
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king and queen of siam - now here's the hard part, the really hard part
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2007 : 20:11:48
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DEVO - Bob Mothersbaugh's guitar solo in "Smart Patrol/Mr. DNA". My fave guitar solo ever, hands down.
Frank Black - Teenager of the Year is fairly loaded with these moments but I especially love "Hostess with the Mostest," specifically the little solo (Lyle?) in the middle and then the break before the second verse.
The Chameleons cause more of these moments for me than any other band. How about the entire second half of "View from a Hill" or Mark's "Hee-eeey, everything was clearer than today..." on "In Childhood"? There are too many more to list.
The Clash - "Somebody Got Murdered"... I love how Mick's voice always sounds sad to me. "Stay Free" is probably the saddest of them all, but even "Gates of the West" sounds sad. How about the line in Murdered, "I've been very hungry but not enough to kill"?
Ruts DC - I generally like the post-Malcolm Owens Ruts better. They were the kings of slowly building up a song -- many had two verses before they'd let loose with the chorus. Animal Now is so underrated and unknown that it's a crime. There's a song called "Slow Down"... the chorus (i.e. "Can't you see what it's doing to you...") is fucking masterful and still sends chills up my spine.
I'm only getting started. Every glance of my record collection yields more of these moments. It's why I love music. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2007 : 20:41:38
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Throwing Muses - Vicky's Box: When the song kicks in after the "He won't ride anymore". I get the shivers and feel like I'm going to bust out in tears
Otis Redding - Tenderness (live in Monterey, the LP that I no longer have had Hendrix on the other side) - He sounds so sincere and pleading, and then funky. More shivers.
I'll think of some more. I know there's some on Pacer, but can't remember which songs. Do you ever lose those moments? Play the song too often? Or maybe become too aware that it's coming? |
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <
New Zealand
3426 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2007 : 20:55:45
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Originally posted by darwin
Throwing Muses - Vicky's Box: When the song kicks in after the "He won't ride anymore". I get the shivers and feel like I'm going to bust out in tears
excellent choice.
do you prefer the doghouse cassette version or the album version better?
i find myself enjoying the doghouse version more because it's so much rawer and damn right nastier than the album version....and kristin's scream......
also, those first few lines just hit you so hard in the guts....they just come out of the blue....or so it seems.
all i can say, thank god for polio! brian |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2007 : 21:04:13
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| You're right. She lulls you asleep with the "he won't ride anymore" and then hits you. She sounds like she's going insane. I only have the Untitled or self-titled 4AD album. Is that the album version? |
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Srisaket
= Cult of Ray =
Thailand
313 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2007 : 21:38:04
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‘Untitled 8’ from () by Sigur Ros builds and builds to a powerful crescendo over a lyrical motif and rocks out incredibly hard and this from a normally very restrained group.
‘The Gates of Delirium’ by Yes which after about a prolonged instrumental passage (17 minutes in I think) collapses under its own weight and is then ‘rescued’ by an astonishing piece of polymoog/synth playing by Patrick Moraz.
‘Can’t you hear me Knocking’ by the Rolling Stones where Mick Taylor and Keith Richards play the main riff over and against the second verse of the song and in addition the improvised ending is also very impressive.
You mention Pink Floyd; I would also add that the intro section of ‘Shine on You Crazy Diamond’ is especially good as well and the middle part of ‘One of These Days’ and those low, low notes at the start of ‘Time’.
Led Zeppelin’s ‘When the Levee Breaks’, the whole song is brilliant from start to finish, John Bonham’s drumming in particular, the best thing that they ever did in my opinion.
Liz Fraser’s vocals on the Cocteau Twin’s ‘Millimillenary’
There are many others, these are just a few I thought of now.
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2007 : 21:50:46
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Originally posted by Srisaket
Led Zeppelin’s ‘When the Levee Breaks’, the whole song is brilliant from start to finish, John Bonham’s drumming in particular, the best thing that they ever did in my opinion.
Agreed. Fantastic primal riff. |
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <
New Zealand
3426 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2007 : 21:57:25
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Originally posted by darwin
You're right. She lulls you asleep with the "he won't ride anymore" and then hits you. She sounds like she's going insane. I only have the Untitled or self-titled 4AD album. Is that the album version?
In A Doghouse is the version that's got the doghouse cassette version on it, which was their demo that got them signed to 4ad.
they re-released the 'album' with a 2nd disc containing said cassette and some even older tunes re-recorded...
it's damn good.
tracklisting for the doghouse cassette is:
01 Call Me
02 Sinkhole
03 Green
04 Hate My Way
05 Vicky's Box
06 America (She Can't Say No)
07 Fear
08 Raise the Roses
09 And a She-Wolf After the War
10 Fish
and while it's a bit naughty, i'm sure kristin won't mind, here's the doghouse version of vicky's box darwin:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/mcx3t6
all i can say, thank god for polio! brian |
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IceCream
= Quote Accumulator =
USA
1850 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2007 : 22:00:06
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the last 30 seconds of "Only Shallow" by My Bloody Valentine
the first 8 seconds of "Chances are the Comets in Our Future" by Royal Trux
the "i've been looking all over the place for a place for me, but it ain't anywhere" line in "Vegetable Man" by Pink Floyd
1:30 - 1:42 of Captain Beefheart's "Steal Softly Through Snow"
the "Dove nested towers, the hour will strike the street quicksilver moon" part of "Surf's Up" by the Beach Boys
the end of "isolde! geliebte! tristan! geliebter!" from Wagner's Tristan and Isolde
the last 2 minutes of Anton Bruckner's 4th symphony - from section V to the end of movement 4 (if you're looking at full score)
the first 30 seconds of Antonin Dvorak's 9th symphony
there are some really brilliant parts in Berlioz' Symphonie Fantastique, especially during the Dream of a Witches' Sabbath, but it's much harder to cite where moments of brilliance in classical music exist because there aren't definitive recordings. Of course, I could cite the record company and conductor, but a lot of my classical music is downloaded through p2p networking (hey, 70 years after artist's death, it's in public domain anyway) and I tend to lose sight of the specific details of a certain recording.
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HeywoodJablome
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1485 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2007 : 23:33:59
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To second BLT's Clash references, the part of Complete Control when Joe yells "Very Controlled" amongst Mick's "C-O-N, controlled" and pretty much the rest of the song. And then maybe Death or Glory's mellow part mid song leading back to the chorus. "We're gonna raise Hellllllll". Lot's of good shits like that in that band.
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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1594 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2007 : 23:53:37
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London Calling has that scream, that's great.
And that line "I got my motorcycle jacket,
but I'm walking out all the time" from This Is England.
Dee Snider had a great scream. |
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1834 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2007 : 00:58:03
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Originally posted by Srisaket
‘Can’t you hear me Knocking’ by the Rolling Stones where Mick Taylor and Keith Richards play the main riff over and against the second verse of the song and in addition the improvised ending is also very impressive.
"Can't You Hear Me Knocking" has long been my fave Stones track, for Taylor's "ghost guitar".
Interesting question benji, though most of my responses are pre-alternative: I’ve always been enamored, even paralyzed if up for it, by transitions, for example that of the Allman Brothers Band on their first album from the first track, “Don’t Want You No More” to the second, “It’s Not My Cross to Bear”, and Santana on “Abraxas” from “Black Magic Woman/Gypsy Queen” unto “Oye Como Va” - even had the girlfriend look evil onto me for how grimly I responded when the crowd noise masked that particular transition in concert - and in the late middle of the fifth track, “Tank”, on ELP’s first, eponymous album, within the sycopated drums (that one’s almost orgasmic, if it’s loud enough: don’t recommend it, or do). And then there’s that recurrent guitar/bass surge on the second track, “We’re Having Much More Fun”, of X’s “More Fun in the New World", which I now have on repeat play, thank you very much. That one track is stronger than anything on Top 40 since Prince’s “Little Red Corvette”.
Now that I think about it, isn’t there that moment about midway on Pistolero’s “I Want Rock’N’Roll”? And just how many moments are there in “My Favorite Kiss”?
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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
488 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2007 : 02:35:05
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Originally posted by benji
quote:
Originally posted by darwin
You're right. She lulls you asleep with the "he won't ride anymore" and then hits you. She sounds like she's going insane. I only have the Untitled or self-titled 4AD album. Is that the album version?
In A Doghouse is the version that's got the doghouse cassette version on it, which was their demo that got them signed to 4ad.
they re-released the 'album' with a 2nd disc containing said cassette and some even older tunes re-recorded...
it's damn good.
tracklisting for the doghouse cassette is:
01 Call Me
02 Sinkhole
03 Green
04 Hate My Way
05 Vicky's Box
06 America (She Can't Say No)
07 Fear
08 Raise the Roses
09 And a She-Wolf After the War
10 Fish
and while it's a bit naughty, i'm sure kristin won't mind, here's the doghouse version of vicky's box darwin:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/mcx3t6
all i can say, thank god for polio! brian
yes, that album is brilliant (that's what ill listen to this morn cheers).
Anyways, my moment is "favorite thing" by the replacement....
when it goes a bit nuts towards the end. it just builds to nearly falling apart and is bloody amazing.....
never gets tired....
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2543 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2007 : 03:18:16
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FB - related ones:
"turn your prayer wheel" in Lolita
the guitar at the start of Letter to Memphis makes the hair on my neck stand up
Non-FB:
the start of A Fond Farewell is just amazing
Kristin Hersh - Spain "It's not an awful secret, you know
It's just a secret"
argh, there must be loads of others, but those are the ones that spring to mind
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2564 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2007 : 05:40:16
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All My Ghosts - 2:15 The start of my favourite guitar solo ever in my favourite song ever. On my favourite album. Ever.
King & Queen of Siam - The part that Steve mentioned.
There are so many just on FB&TC's alone for me. I listen to it near enough every day and still get goose bumps hearing the intro to All My Ghosts and remain excited by it until the end of The Man Who Was Too Loud.
"Aw, I better not."
"The arc of triumph" |
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hickster9
- FB Fan -
USA
98 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2007 : 06:25:02
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The part in Fleetwood Mac's "The Chain" where all sound stops and then McVie's bass does a couple of wonderful lines, followed by Fleetwood's drums, and finally crescendoing into Buckingham's guitar. Chills every time for me.
I like cows, they go moo when they eat |
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-
USA
5155 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2007 : 09:50:28
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The Clash - Brand New Cadilac ("JESUS CHRIST where'd you get that Cadilac?")
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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *
Austria
1036 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2007 : 11:30:35
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great thread!
okay, i've been thinking about this lately. and one thing comes always to my mind: a certain part of the song "crumble" from the latest dinosaur jr. album. i always considered j.mascis as a true musical genious - not so much as songwriter, but more like a classical composer. he doesn't need a whole orchestra, but only drums and guitar (no bass!). his chord sequences aren't very spectacular, he is more into melodies and something i would like to call drawing with sounds of specific instruments and rhytms. not drawing of musical landscapes, more drawing of pictures and films. yes, he shows us short, intensive and distinct films with guitars and drums.
so, the moment in question on "crumble" is between 1:50 and 2:20. the song itself is simple and repetitive, which produces a certain tension. at 1:50 the guitar stops and only the bass (or a deep rhythm guitar) and drums continue the song. the tension of the song is gettting slowly dissolved by a light lead guitar part, and this feeling culminates with a short drum part on differently tuned drums (i'm not a musician - i don't know how to describe exactly). and then the song continues like before.
to me, it is a very visual. the whole song is not dark, but grey. this short part described above opens a window into a differnt, promising world - but quickly, the window is closed again. but we could see the other side and it is burned forever into our memory.
I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band |
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <
New Zealand
3426 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2007 : 12:59:50
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Originally posted by pixiestu
All My Ghosts - 2:15 The start of my favourite guitar solo ever in my favourite song ever. On my favourite album. Ever.
King & Queen of Siam - The part that Steve mentioned.
There are so many just on FB&TC's alone for me. I listen to it near enough every day and still get goose bumps hearing the intro to All My Ghosts and remain excited by it until the end of The Man Who Was Too Loud.
"Aw, I better not."
"The arc of triumph"
man, you a member of dime?
just cause i uploaded a 1994 show last week that has a very nice early pre-catholics version of the man who was too loud......
seeing as you're such a fan of that album, thought it might interest you....
all i can say, thank god for polio! brian |
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2564 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2007 : 13:31:47
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Yeah I've got that, it's the Wetlands, New York one, right? I think I might be overdue a listen of that actually.
I have got a dime account, but I mainly use it for DVD torrents, mp3's are fine for me and they save me a lot of space.
"The arc of triumph" |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 10/24/2007 : 13:42:09
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Great thread. There's one thing that gives me goosebumps every time, about half a second at the beginning of the first chorus of the Rolling Stones' "Life In Vain". When the mandoline (or whatever it is) starts and Jagger's voice almost breaks while singing "All my love's in vain"... Awesome.
That's all I can think of right now.
Denis
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breakmybody
- FB Fan -
Greenland
136 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2007 : 14:28:21
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I love when Joe Strummer sings on Spanish bombs "Oh my corazon" it really touches me.
David Bowie on Ziggy Stardust, "So we bitched about his fans and should we crush his sweet hands?"...
I don't know why, but I know I can't stay
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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Posted - 10/24/2007 : 14:35:12
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The way Joe Strummer wrote and sang the Mescaleros' "Long Shadow." Since a good friend died I can't quite listen to it but I do think about the song often.
By the way, are we talking about artistic brilliance or personal resonance -- what is brilliant about the artist or what moves us subjectively? For me it's the latter. I can recognize brilliance yet not relate to it or enjoy it.
Happy hearts fall from my shaking hands
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/24/2007 : 14:44:05
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the moment right after fB sings "...but does she have IQ for the moon?", when they revert back to the intro chords [/shudder]
The Knock, a track on UNKLE's "Psyence Fiction", when Mike D raps "I'ma...break...it....down...in the...UN....KLE....style" then DJ Shadow tears it apart with about 15 seconds worth of scratchin'.
and Dead. Start to finish. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2007 : 14:56:27
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We are talking about "a few seconds during a song which just make you suddenly pay attention like you hadn't been previously, where you feel a shiver down your spine and goose bumps forming on your arms". So, it's about songs that get this reaction out of us. Songs that in your words resonate within us.
More from me:
Ella Fitzgerald - Mr. Paganini (in a Berlin concert). Again another song that starts slow and then just swings more and more until it feels like it's going to explode.
X - Poor Girl [a perfect 3 minutes] ("Take what she gives you, don't cry when you Kiss her, Poor Little Girl, ran away for good ..... she holds the deck of cards, she wants to be alone, she drinks in the dark...") |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2007 : 15:05:51
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Thanks for the clarification. Your second example is perfect. I can't speak for the first, but I'll take your word for it.
Happy hearts fall from my shaking hands
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
Canada
4307 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2007 : 18:46:28
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the first 10 seconds of bird dream
the first 20 seconds or so of she sells sanctuary
virginia reel - recently discussed.
breathless by nick cave (my wife and i danced to this at our wedding) beautiful song, i heard it for the first time from the link here.
The waxworks were an immensely eloquent dissertation on the wonderful ordinariness of mankind. |
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
Canada
4307 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2007 : 18:56:42
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the scream at the end of "i've had enough" from the who's quadrophenia. where they kind of mix the "love" with sound of applause/car(scooter)crash. awesome!
The waxworks were an immensely eloquent dissertation on the wonderful ordinariness of mankind. |
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2007 : 19:09:01
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sigur ros - staralfur - the pause half way through, and then when the music comes back with the heartbeat-sounding drums
radiohead - exit music (for a film) 2:17 - the backing choral cuts out and background noise comes in.
I like to complain |
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
Canada
4307 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2007 : 19:15:03
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i like the sigur ros sounds that were in "life aquatic" when they first see the leopard shark. that gives me duck-flesh!
The waxworks were an immensely eloquent dissertation on the wonderful ordinariness of mankind. |
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2007 : 19:18:38
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that's staralfur
I like to complain |
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <
New Zealand
3426 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2007 : 19:48:14
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another one:
on early live versions of Dauðalagið (death song) by Sigur Ros right near the end where the instruments slowly fade away but you still have jonsi singin in hopelandic...very very nice. unfortunately this effect was lost on the album version and subsequent live versions cause they slowed the song down alot.....
but on some recordings, especially roskilde 2000 it's beautiful.
all i can say, thank god for polio! brian |
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
Canada
4307 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2007 : 21:03:48
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there was a song by the dirty three on benji's compilation in the first rade that i always thought sounded lke a "beautiful trainwreck" about half-way through the 11 minute or so song it reached this awesome crescendo, what song was that one benji?
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <
New Zealand
3426 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2007 : 22:53:31
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i've included 3 dirty three songs on my comps...
sue's last ride, i knew it would come to this, and three wheels.
i'd say from your description that it was sue's last ride....
that one also sends shivers down my spine, but i already had a d3 song on my list and didn't wanna get greedy.
all i can say, thank god for polio! brian |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 10/27/2007 : 21:03:34
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| Benji - thanks for that Vicky's Box download. I've only listened to it once, but my initial impression is that I prefer the album version (but that's also what I'm use to). I heard three big differences: 1) the drumming during the big moment has more fills but I think I could grow to like that, 2) her singing which to me sounds more aggressive than the cracking, losing control that I'm use to on the album, 3) and finally the keyboard, which I really don't like. Do they even have keyboards on later albums? Maybe Red Heaven or Hunkapapa. Thanks it was fun to hear. |
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Moments of Musical Brilliance
