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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =

Ireland
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Posted - 07/16/2007 :  03:30:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In the Aeroplane Over the Sea is amazing..
all agreed?
great!
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billgoodman
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Netherlands
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Posted - 07/16/2007 :  06:58:40  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
it's a great record indeed

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mr.biscuitdoughhead
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1729 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2007 :  08:07:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
nmh are pretty much all i've been listening to lately. i've worn out aeroplane, so i tried listening to on avery island a little more. i didn't like it at first, but it's actually really good.
gardenhead/leave me alone and naomi are my favorites.


"We do beleive it ends right here."
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Carolynanna
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Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2007 :  08:21:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah thanks to cheeseman I've worn out aeroplane too.
And thanks to whore I'm on my way to wearing out Avery island.

I like aeroplane so much it brings tears to my eyes.

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mr.biscuitdoughhead
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1729 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2007 :  08:24:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Carolynanna


I like aeroplane so much it brings tears to my eyes.



especially two headed boy pt. 2 (best song on aeroplane imo)


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Carolynanna
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Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2007 :  10:12:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I like Holland 1945.
It always gets me at
"The only girl I've ever loved,
was born with roses in her eyes,
until they buried her alive,
one day in 1945,
with just her sister by her side."

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mr.biscuitdoughhead
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1729 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2007 :  10:17:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
it's about anne frank, right?

or, wasn't the whole album about anne frank?


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Carolynanna
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Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2007 :  10:38:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I asked that same question.
Darwin said its loosely based on Anne Frank.
I get something new from the lyrics everytime I listen to it just about.


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mr.biscuitdoughhead
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1729 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2007 :  11:21:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
just looked it up on wiki it says:

quote:
"conceptually based on the beauty to be found in the horrific experience of Anne Frank, as well as similarly overwhelming tragedies. During a live performance, Mangum said that some of the album's songs were based on recurring dreams he had of a Jewish family during World War II"


i don't hear that in any of the lyrics but, whatever...


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Frog in the Sand
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France
2715 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2007 :  11:28:01  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mr.biscuitdoughhead

it's about anne frank, right?




Anne Frank wasn't buried alive, she died in a concentration camp.

an undisclosed number of visitors can't be wrong
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mr.biscuitdoughhead
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1729 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2007 :  11:32:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
so you're calling Jeff Mangum a liar?


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Carolynanna
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Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2007 :  11:43:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mr.biscuitdoughhead

just looked it up on wiki it says:

quote:
"conceptually based on the beauty to be found in the horrific experience of Anne Frank, as well as similarly overwhelming tragedies. During a live performance, Mangum said that some of the album's songs were based on recurring dreams he had of a Jewish family during World War II"


i don't hear that in any of the lyrics but, whatever...


"We do beleive it ends right here."



You don't hear any of that?
Really?

I'm not sure about Two headed boy.
But "all floating in glass" sounds like a hitler experiment to me.

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Carolynanna
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Canada
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Posted - 07/16/2007 :  11:44:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Frog in the Sand

quote:
Originally posted by mr.biscuitdoughhead

it's about anne frank, right?




Anne Frank wasn't buried alive, she died in a concentration camp.

an undisclosed number of visitors can't be wrong



loosely based, loosely.

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Frog in the Sand
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France
2715 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2007 :  11:53:09  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
By the way, she died in '44, not in '45...

an undisclosed number of visitors can't be wrong
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Carolynanna
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Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2007 :  12:06:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
But four doesn't rhyme with alive and such.

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Edited by - Carolynanna on 07/16/2007 12:21:38
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mr.biscuitdoughhead
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1729 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2007 :  14:20:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Carolynanna

quote:
Originally posted by mr.biscuitdoughhead

just looked it up on wiki it says:

quote:
"conceptually based on the beauty to be found in the horrific experience of Anne Frank, as well as similarly overwhelming tragedies. During a live performance, Mangum said that some of the album's songs were based on recurring dreams he had of a Jewish family during World War II"


i don't hear that in any of the lyrics but, whatever...


"We do beleive it ends right here."



You don't hear any of that?
Really?

I'm not sure about Two headed boy.
But "all floating in glass" sounds like a hitler experiment to me.

__________
Fuck off I got work to do.



i hear it in holland, just not in the other songs.


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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1615 Posts

Posted - 07/17/2007 :  12:01:35  Show Profile  Click to see Thomas's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
If memory serves me right. This is one of the few CD’s I’ve picked up with recommendations from this Board. Needless to say these songs didn’t stay long on my MP3 player. Some songs, like ‘Holland 45’, ‘Ghost’ and ‘Untitled’ might have survived but I just deleted them all. That’s not to say all recommendations are bad. One of my favorite purchases in the last few years was recommended from this board. The Unicorns’ ‘Who Will Cut Our Hair When We're Gone?’ The biggest reason I mention it along with Neutral Milk Hotel's is while the songs are on shuffle on my player I kept getting one band confused with the other. I realized the happy fun songs where the Unicorns and the sad boring songs where Neutral Milk Hotels.



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Madame
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62 Posts

Posted - 07/17/2007 :  15:23:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Frog in the Sand

quote:
Originally posted by mr.biscuitdoughhead

it's about anne frank, right?




Anne Frank wasn't buried alive, she died in a concentration camp.

an undisclosed number of visitors can't be wrong



a grave in the clouds:

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Madame
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Posted - 07/17/2007 :  15:25:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
by the way, am i the only person who thinks that after good ten minutes, the album becomes lousy, with just a couple of bright moments (like that untitled song)?

mangum is the worst singer i've ever heard.
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mr.biscuitdoughhead
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1729 Posts

Posted - 07/17/2007 :  15:31:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
all of you are crazy except billgoodman, Carolynanna, and lonely persuader.


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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 07/17/2007 :  16:27:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i still don't understand the cult fascination with aeroplanes. it's not bad but, i agree with thomas, a bit boring.

"Idiot" is just her sig.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5448 Posts

Posted - 07/17/2007 :  17:25:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
At work my itunes calls up the music files of other people on the wireless network (mostly undergraduate students). I enjoy browsing their files and what has stood out the most for me is how many people have NMH songs. Even people with predominantly crappy rap and pop seem to have NMH and often boots. Other "winner" is Tenacious D.

That being said, I still think it's a great album.
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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1222 Posts

Posted - 07/18/2007 :  11:14:17  Show Profile  Visit misleadtheworld's Homepage  Reply with Quote
"Anna's ghost all around" - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea (Song)



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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6042 Posts

Posted - 07/18/2007 :  15:37:06  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I believe Anna's Sister wasn't at her side too, when she died
although she wasn't far away.

Loosely based of course.

That record is amazing, one of the big ones. But it doesn't come to you, right away.
In true lo-fi fashion, you really need to dig through it.

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ObfuscateByWill
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1884 Posts

Posted - 07/18/2007 :  15:58:22  Show Profile  Visit ObfuscateByWill's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Carolynanna


You don't hear any of that?
Really?

I'm not sure about Two headed boy.
But "all floating in glass" sounds like a hitler experiment to me.



I've always thought it ref'd stillborn, deformed children preserved in large glass jars. "Pickled Punks"

Remarkably depressing pair of songs.

*Take a bite of the chocolate coffin.
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 07/18/2007 :  18:34:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman

I believe Anna's Sister wasn't at her side too, when she died
although she wasn't far away.

Loosely based of course.

That record is amazing, one of the big ones. But it doesn't come to you, right away.
In true lo-fi fashion, you really need to dig through it.

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I'm sure she didn't turn into a little boy in Spain either...

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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3111 Posts

Posted - 07/18/2007 :  18:44:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
After reading this thread, I thought I'd better find out what all the excitement is about. I went to iTunes and sampled some tunes. Am I the only one who thinks the singer sounds unbelievably whiny? Should I give them another shot? At what point do they suddenly sound worth the hype? Cuz on first glance, I just don't see it.


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mr.biscuitdoughhead
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1729 Posts

Posted - 07/18/2007 :  19:04:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Carolynanna

quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman

I believe Anna's Sister wasn't at her side too, when she died
although she wasn't far away.

Loosely based of course.

That record is amazing, one of the big ones. But it doesn't come to you, right away.
In true lo-fi fashion, you really need to dig through it.

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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken?



I'm sure she didn't turn into a little boy in Spain either...

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Fuck off I got work to do.


damn, i was just gonna say that.


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mr.biscuitdoughhead
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1729 Posts

Posted - 07/18/2007 :  19:06:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by coastline

After reading this thread, I thought I'd better find out what all the excitement is about. I went to iTunes and sampled some tunes. Am I the only one who thinks the singer sounds unbelievably whiny? Should I give them another shot? At what point do they suddenly sound worth the hype? Cuz on first glance, I just don't see it.


Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.


i didn't like his voice at first, either. i thought "this is a good album, but not that good." and now i see why people think it's so great. i think listening to the whole album in one sitting was what did it for me.


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billgoodman
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Netherlands
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Posted - 07/19/2007 :  00:59:39  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
his singing is pretty odd. But Frank can get whiny too. I have no problem listening to whiny voices as long as there is some relief vocally or musically too. And there is plenty

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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2007 :  01:11:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you were Canadian then you'd be familiar with the band Rush.
Geddy Lee's voice makes this guy sound like freaking Tony Bennett...

Seriously though,
I like how his voice sounds especially at its most whiny like in Oh Comely when he's singing Know all your enemies or even Let your skin begin to blend itself with mine.

I didn't know there was such a 'hype'. I don't know one person who knows NMH at all (except you guys.)

There are so many mouth, tongue, teeth references.
Any interpretations?




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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =

Ireland
488 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2007 :  03:47:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
how can people call his voice weird... its simple, raw and full of emotion...
it is one of the best album ever...
it flows excellently, u don't want to skip any track...

I also agree that the last track "two headed boy part 2" is currently my favourite....

How can you complain with lines like
"Soft silly music is meaningful magical
The movements were beautiful
All in your ovaries
All of them milking with green fleshy flowers
While powerful pistons were sugary sweet machines"

.... brilliant...

isnt it about a boy (i.e. two headed, i dunno what two headed refers to, could be lewd) being in love with anne frank, although he is from a different time, i.e. 50 years later... interesting concept, that your true love has actually died and you will never meet her.. and the limitations (or lack of) time itself....


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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3111 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2007 :  04:17:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Carolynanna

If you were Canadian then you'd be familiar with the band Rush.
Geddy Lee's voice makes this guy sound like freaking Tony Bennett...

Seriously though,
I like how his voice sounds especially at its most whiny like in Oh Comely when he's singing Know all your enemies or even Let your skin begin to blend itself with mine.

I didn't know there was such a 'hype'. I don't know one person who knows NMH at all (except you guys.)

There are so many mouth, tongue, teeth references.
Any interpretations?




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Fuck off I got work to do.

But I am Canadian, Carolynanna. And my last name is even the same as that of the drummer from Rush. (But I don't think we're related, especially because he pronounces our name incorrectly.) As for the "hype," I'm only referring to this thread.

Ok, so I have 17 downloads left with eMusic this month. I'm going to download one of their albums. Should I start with the older one ("On Avery Island") or the newer one ("Aeroplane")? What's weird is that those albums are both about a decade old. Reading this thread, I figured this was some new band. And listening to clips of them, I thought they were some sort of copiers of the Bright Eyes sound.


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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =

Ireland
488 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2007 :  04:28:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Avery has some good tracks (A baby for Pree and Naomi) but Aeroplane is in a different class (and quiet accessible).
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ObfuscateByWill
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1884 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2007 :  04:43:32  Show Profile  Visit ObfuscateByWill's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Go with Aeroplane, coastline.

*Take a bite of the chocolate coffin.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2007 :  06:15:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Carolynanna

quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman

I believe Anna's Sister wasn't at her side too, when she died
although she wasn't far away.

Loosely based of course.

That record is amazing, one of the big ones. But it doesn't come to you, right away.
In true lo-fi fashion, you really need to dig through it.

---------------------------
BF: Mag ik Engels spreken?



I'm sure she didn't turn into a little boy in Spain either...

__________
Fuck off I got work to do.



But she does play piano filled with flames.


I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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