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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
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 Posted - 03/26/2007 : 09:56:04
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
777 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2007 : 11:43:23
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Originally posted by pixiestu
Does anybody else think this could be described as like a Pistolero version of 1826? Or is it just me?
"The arc of triumph"
mmm it's a very personal feeling you have there.
Personaly, i think the most remarkable thing about that song is that it makes you DANCE!!! Perhaps more than any FB song before. |
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/26/2007 : 12:15:12
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does anyone else hear the Pretty in Pink riff being done by the bass in this song?
Scratching the surface without a purpose won't accomplish anything new
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the_great_stupido
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 03/30/2007 : 12:56:46
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Originally posted by billgoodman
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Originally posted by dyperman
black on black a tasty snack....its amazing it works:
.....Black rubber, tight black rubber a tight black rubber and and a (Inaudible) man. She bit me so hard and I just filled her, another (inaudible) and another gilder...A MALL KILLER!!!
wish I could be as cool as Kim Deal
it's another guilder, I'm sure
the dutch valuta before the euro
not the one that gives you blue fingers though
I think it's 'another gig, another guilder'. Makes sense, too, given the context. |
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Steak n Sabre
* Dog in the Sand *
Uzbekistan
1013 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2007 : 23:04:59
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Take a Vicodin and knock it down with a 12- pak. Listen to 'Tight Black Rubber'. Now try to say it's not one of the best songs you've heard in the last 3 years...
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the man who is too loud
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Posted - 04/04/2007 : 17:53:25
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...a tight black rubber ain't no chimpey and man? /..a tight black rubber an egyptian man? 
I'm sure I'm hearing it wrong :)
It's definately guilder I think. He seems to have developped some emotional band with everything dutch lately. When he was talking dutch in the beginning of 'angels come to confort you' I was like huh, did I hear that right? rewind! |
Edited by - the man who is too loud on 04/04/2007 17:58:45 |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2007 : 18:54:53
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Tight black rubber, ain't no trip, be a man
 Please pardon me, for these my wrongs. |
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morgan
- FB Fan -
USA
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Posted - 04/04/2007 : 19:53:33
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Originally posted by Llamadance
does anyone else hear the Pretty in Pink riff being done by the bass in this song?
Yeah, I heard that, too. |
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the_great_stupido
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 04/05/2007 : 00:50:32
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Originally posted by the man who is too loud
...a tight black rubber ain't no chimpey and man? /..a tight black rubber an egyptian man?
I'm sure I'm hearing it wrong :)
It's definately guilder I think. He seems to have developped some emotional band with everything dutch lately. When he was talking dutch in the beginning of 'angels come to confort you' I was like huh, did I hear that right? rewind!
You obviously haven't cottoned onto the 'Herman Brood' links yet, then. Go and check out the 'Bluefinger (spoilers)' thread. You'll love it... |
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <
New Zealand
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Posted - 04/05/2007 : 02:11:36
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while listening to tbl tonight for the millionth time, i finally realised what song it reminded me of....
subbacultcha....
give them both a listen and it sticks out like a sore thumb....to me atleast....
and does anyone else think that the "it's amazing it works" line relates to the fact that there's some really simple rhyming lyrics used and he's alluding to the fact that they actually sound good, and not total rubbish....so simple, yet so good....type of thing...
all i can say, thank god for polio! brian |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2007 : 03:32:03
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Originally posted by benji
and does anyone else think that the "it's amazing it works" line relates to the fact that there's some really simple rhyming lyrics used and he's alluding to the fact that they actually sound good, and not total rubbish....so simple, yet so good....type of thing...
There's a video of Herman Brood on YouTube -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaS0VzvfxGY -- where he snorts some coke, gets a big grin on his face, and says, "Amazing, it works!" It seems safe to guess that's where FB got the line for the song. I think the song is about heroin, not coke, but I really think that's what he's talking about.
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kfs
= Cult of Ray =
USA
889 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2007 : 06:36:48
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Originally posted by coastline
Tight black rubber, ain't no trip, be a man
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.
DUDE! Thanks for getting that! It was driving my bonkers because I
couldn't figure it out. I kept hearing "ain't no trick being man..." |
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Stuart
- The Clopser -
China
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Posted - 04/05/2007 : 15:50:43
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I love this song... Frank back to his best if you ask me. When I first heard this song I thought of Lou Reed. Does anyone think Frank sounds a little Reedy in this song?
Today I look forward to the traffic jam on the way to work, justso that I can get more time to listen to this music. Haven't got any weed on me at the moment, and cannot afford to buy any either so I am gonna use my supply of nutmeg to get myself into a state and appreciate this album whilst fucked up. Apparently if you eat raw nutmeg it gives you a marijuana like high... never tried it before.
Because your candle burned too bright, that I almost forgot it was twilight |
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langdonboom
= Cult of Ray =
USA
260 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2007 : 17:21:07
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Originally posted by Stuart
I love this song... Frank back to his best if you ask me. When I first heard this song I thought of Lou Reed. Does anyone think Frank sounds a little Reedy in this song?
I definitely do!
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Originally posted by langdonboom
okay, about three listens later, and I'm hooked. Its really strange to me how this happens to me on almost EVERY FB album, but I hear it at first and go 'oh well, his earlier stuff is great at least... can't be greedy' and then a few closer listens and it just emerges. THe ending of Angels Come to Comfort You DEFINITELY sounds like it could fit on TOTY, as does Discotheque 36. And he does sing a bit more than I was griping about on Tight Black Rubber, though he is channeling his inner Lou Reed in a good way. The shouts definitly fit into a pixies-ish vibe. And might I add the muscle-y end riff on Lolita is another great blast of Frank-noise, fittting right into his amazing ability to slice pieces of seemingly 'different songs' together (I'd put the end of Angels in that too).
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 04/06/2007 : 00:31:55
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Originally posted by coastline
Tight black rubber, ain't no trip, be a man
Thanks! I heard "Tight black rubber in Vietnam", which made little sense.
Denis
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ObfuscateByWill
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 04/06/2007 : 01:18:54
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Originally posted by Stuart
I love this song... Frank back to his best if you ask me. When I first heard this song I thought of Lou Reed. Does anyone think Frank sounds a little Reedy in this song?
I hear that, too. Might be inclined to compare TBR to one of John Cale's bassy, churning tunes (Gun, Pablo Picasso, Chickenshit).
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frankblackphx
= Cult of Ray =
USA
287 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2007 : 12:41:10
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I heard Subbacultcha as well.
Still my least like song on Bluefinger by far. I just don't think it is melodic enough. Particular the Verse Melody. Every other song has really grown on me but this is the lone one. Hopefully it will eventually click.
Here I am for your judgement
When the paint grows darker still
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Kirk
= Cult of Ray =
USA
633 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2007 : 09:58:53
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
777 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2007 : 11:21:25
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How strange ! It's my favorite bluefinger song, and I especially like the spoken voice. There ARE melodies in those verses. Like when you hear a Rapper. Many times in the past Frank made a "kinda Subbacultcha" song (the marsist, so bay...) and it was allright but not THAT twisted, THAT out-of-tune-but-super-sexy-rock'n'roll. I guess "Ole Mullholland" was his best attempt up to now. Jumping Beans was also great but a bit more folky.
But Tight Black Rubber is even cooler and sexier than Subbacultcha ! |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 04/19/2007 : 17:56:13
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Definitely my favourite of the five I've heard so far (Youtube), though I'm hearing a skewed version of it still sounds great. Live will kill. Hope they play with all the swagger and sex they can muster. I dig The Fall. Very Fall sounding Steve Hanley bass. The opening is pure Fall. Subbacultcha was another Fall inspired sex beast of a song. Grotesque you know The Fall? Can't think of too many bands that led so heavy with bass, Morphine maybe. Still can't decide on the chorus; Ain't no trip/trick being man/be a man. Thank you coastline for the 'It's Amazing, it works' Youtube. Good find. Yes OMOTY the switch from 1st chorus to 2nd verse is fucking sublime. I'm there on holiday right now.
'Make me go right back to the end'
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Edited by - trobrianders on 04/20/2007 16:56:20 |
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OLDMANOTY
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
469 Posts |
Posted - 04/20/2007 : 00:36:04
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I love the way the bass lurches into the second verse, then just for a split second it sounds like they've messed the timing up. Brilliant, this song could be what the phrase 'cool as fuck' was invented for.
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Edited by - OLDMANOTY on 04/21/2007 02:26:18 |
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OLDMANOTY
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 04/21/2007 : 02:36:56
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Re sounding like The Fall: Absolutely agree, wonder if he's into them? But it also reminds me of Lou Reed (as already mentioned) and even The Beastie Boys. Oh, and Ten Percenter - has that same, crunchy, dirty sound. My favourite Bluefinger song at the moment, really gives me an adrenaline charge.
Just realised it's Threshold that reminds me of The Beastie Boys, not TBR. I've got a hangover.
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 04/21/2007 : 03:22:11
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I've heard him mention them 3 or 4 times. There's a concert recording (Brixton Academy 1990 I think) where he intros Subbacultcha as Fall-sounding. Plus the talking-at-you-rap style that Grotesque refers to is Mark E Smith's style. I'm certain The Fall are huge to FB. They have that full-on-sideways-at-you thing that inspires FB I think, and one of the most impressive back catalogues in history.
Plus I think calling the album Bluefinger is in part a nod to the Fall's I Am Kurious Oranj, another case of a songwriter making an album so heavily inspired by some other branch of the arts.
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Edited by - trobrianders on 04/21/2007 03:31:42 |
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OLDMANOTY
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
469 Posts |
Posted - 04/21/2007 : 03:32:09
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I was crazy about The Fall years ago and just recently re-discovered them. Have about ten albums to catch up on I think. Just got 'The Unutterable' and can't stop listening to 'Dr Buck's Letter'. Sorry, going off-topic!
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 04/21/2007 : 03:44:03
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You're entirely on-topic. Please more.
We've got to be talking more about The Fall if we want to talk about Bluefinger. That's clear from the sound.
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Edited by - trobrianders on 04/21/2007 03:46:35 |
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OLDMANOTY
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/21/2007 : 03:56:44
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I think it's really only TBR on Bluefinger that's particularly Fall-like. Can you elaborate?
I keep hearing things that remind me of so many other artists too, for instance the chorus of Angels Come To Comfort You is very Elvis Costello I think.
Godspeed |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 04/21/2007 : 04:37:14
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You're right. I've been ODing on TBR.
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OLDMANOTY
= Cult of Ray =
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
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3111 Posts |
Posted - 04/21/2007 : 06:20:17
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Originally posted by OLDMANOTY
The Fall - Two Librans. Crap quality but good example of TBR sound.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=AULD36vLOr0
Godspeed
The lead guitar near the beginning sounds very much like Joey Santiago's playing.
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs. |
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
777 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2007 : 09:22:40
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Originally posted by coastline
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Originally posted by OLDMANOTY
The Fall - Two Librans. Crap quality but good example of TBR sound.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=AULD36vLOr0
Godspeed
The lead guitar near the beginning sounds very much like Joey Santiago's playing.
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.
Well... it's not! And you know what? When I watched the Pixies dvds I realized a lot of great guitar parts were actualy Frank's work, especially when he's not singing the part at the same time (just like the intro you're talking about).
One single example among others: the brief guitar part in Gigantic before the final blast (everything breaks and you just hear Frank playing 2 note chords with just two strings, a bit like Santiago in Where is my mind).
He is also the pixies guitarist ! Being with guitar heroes all that time after the pixies, his guitar work was a bit shadowed. Bluefinger came to put the clocks at the right time(french expression). |
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
777 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2007 : 09:25:08
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Originally posted by trobrianders
You're entirely on-topic. Please more.
We've got to be talking more about The Fall if we want to talk about Bluefinger. That's clear from the sound.
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Yeah, because The Fall's discography is so hard to get in !
So many albums... what are the ones to beging with ? |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 04/22/2007 : 09:55:17
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The ones you can get cheap second-hand or borrow from friends.
I started late with Extricate in 1990 then worked backwards. I Am Kurious Oranj is a good one to start with as it has at least something in common with Bluefinger. And don't worry, let the albums infuriate you. That's Mark E Smith's modus operandi.
And you're right about Charles' underrated guitar pickings. Joey's been the only one to properly compliment them. Don't get me wrong I love Lyle and Scott but...now I'm happy that the clocks are put right.
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langdonboom
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 04/22/2007 : 10:28:03
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Originally posted by trobrianders
The ones you can get cheap second-hand or borrow from friends.
I started late with Extricate in 1990 then worked backwards. I Am Kurious Oranj is a good one to start with as it has at least something in common with Bluefinger. And don't worry, let the albums infuriate you. That's Mark E Smith's modus operandi.
And you're right about Charles' underrated guitar pickings. Joey's been the only one to properly compliment them. Don't get me wrong I love Lyle and Scott but...now I'm happy that the clocks are put right.
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I've always been pretty intimidated with the Fall catalog. I got 458489 A Sides though it didn't seem to grab me. I know MES has phases like our FB has his phases, and I appreciate the pointers.... |
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OLDMANOTY
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
469 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2007 : 11:48:10
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Although I love The Fall most of their albums (that I have at least, around half of them) contain at least one unlistenable track or one ridiculously overlong dirge. Most accessible imo: The Wonderfull And Frightening World of..., This Nations Saving Grace, Bend Sinister, Extricate, Shiftwork, Code:Selfish, The Unnuterable. Right, that's completely hijacked this thread.
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
777 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2007 : 12:47:13
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A long time ago I was stunned by a Fall song (dont remember wich one) but I couldnt understand anything to their discography so I became a Wire fan instead.
Easier. And you could play the old wise guy exatly the same way, getting rid of the sonic youth fans.
It's true that Frank really sounds like Mark E Smith on this one. I didnt notice it though it's obvious. |
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