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rockmusic84
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USA
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Posted - 03/12/2007 :  14:53:48  Show Profile  Visit rockmusic84's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Frank mentioned years ago in a press release (for "Dog In The Sand", I believe) regarding the live to 2-track recording method, that on the s/t Catholics album there were 2 razor edits, and on "Pistolero" there was one.

Does anyone know where they are? It's something that I've been curious about ever since I read it. I'm thinking that the one razor edit on "Pistolero" might be the intro to "So. Bay" (reason being, I think the transition from the intro to the song is a bit too flawless to be live), but I could be wrong.

As for the Catholics' debut, I am completely stumped. I can't even guess where the edits could be. The whole album is so raw, you can't even imagine edits.

Anybody know? Maybe the man himself, perhaps...?

Chris.

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Grotesque
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France
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Posted - 03/12/2007 :  15:40:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Been thinking a bit about it, I think "So Hard To Make Things Out" has one cut at the big "sad punk" change. And I agree for "So Bay".
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rockmusic84
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USA
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Posted - 03/12/2007 :  15:44:55  Show Profile  Visit rockmusic84's Homepage  Reply with Quote
"The Sad Punk change"... I like that. ;)

That would require a VERY steady hand and a very sharp razorblade to do an edit like that!!!

Seriously though, lets keep this thread going, I'd love to find this out.

Doesn't Ben Mumphrey post here every once in awhile?

Chris.

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gapu
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Austria
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Posted - 03/13/2007 :  09:26:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i'd like to know more about this as well... but i really can't tell you anything about that. maybe frank could explain that?
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 03/13/2007 :  14:58:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I remember reading years and years back that the Pistolero edit was in I SWITCHED YOU. I could be wrong. I could be right. Maybe Frank will chime in and set us straight. Come on, Chuck! Where's the edit?

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rockmusic84
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USA
256 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2007 :  16:38:16  Show Profile  Visit rockmusic84's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Interesting to hear what everyone's thoughts on the edits are. I recently discovered that Ben Mumphrey has a myspace page. I was thinking about shooting him a message, asking about these edits. But I don't wanna seem like some annoying fan. I mean, this guys a professional. I wouldn't wanna piss him off.

Let's keep this going, I'm dying to know the answers!!!

Rock On,
Chris.

p.s., Ben has a lot of nice pics of himself w/ Frank, Kim and Kelley, etc. on his myspace. Really neat stuff if you haven't seen it. He also says he's an engineer on the upcoming Breeders album. The lucky dog, he gets all the cool jobs! ;)

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kfs
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Posted - 03/13/2007 :  17:22:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The first time I read that I thought you meant...pics of Ben, Frank, Kim, and Kelley all at the same time. I went to look then figured it out. duh!
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/14/2007 :  01:19:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good to hear things are progressing with the Breeders record.
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Teafer
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Posted - 03/14/2007 :  03:13:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
there's one edit on "I need peace", it's not i can hear it, but the man said so in some itw.

"One guitar should be enough for anybody."
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/14/2007 :  03:22:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can't find Ben's myspace, anyone got a link?
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Crispy Water
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Posted - 03/14/2007 :  09:42:19  Show Profile  Visit Crispy Water's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I also remember hearing somewhere that I Need Peace has an edit.

Nothing is ever something.
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rockmusic84
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256 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2007 :  12:20:47  Show Profile  Visit rockmusic84's Homepage  Reply with Quote
myspace.com/benmumphrey

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Ziggy
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Posted - 03/14/2007 :  16:35:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ah, thanks!

Seems he accompanied the band on most of the reunion tour, by the looks of things!
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rockmusic84
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USA
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Posted - 03/14/2007 :  20:03:12  Show Profile  Visit rockmusic84's Homepage  Reply with Quote
OK, so for the debut, we think one of the two edits is in "I Need Peace".

For Pistolero, however, we've heard several theories. I originally thought it was the intro to "So. Bay", then Grotesque thinks it was in "So Hard To Make Things Out", while Transmarine says that Frank has said the edit was in "I Switched You" (and listening to it last night, I think I could hear where it might be in that song).

Interesting that the album that supposedly only has one edit has more than one theory of where that edit is, but the album that has 2, has only one theory.

Let's keep 'em coming until we get the real answer.

Ya know, this would make an interesting topic for the podcast.

Rock On,
Chris.

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Crispy Water
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Posted - 03/14/2007 :  22:39:54  Show Profile  Visit Crispy Water's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm pretty sure I can hear it in I Switched You, but maybe that's just me trying to hear things.

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blckfrncs
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Posted - 03/15/2007 :  19:12:24  Show Profile  Visit blckfrncs's Homepage  Reply with Quote
western star

do you feel bad about it?

and i can't remember the 3rd.
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danjersey
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USA
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Posted - 03/15/2007 :  20:06:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
dog gone
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rockmusic84
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USA
256 Posts

Posted - 03/16/2007 :  05:31:11  Show Profile  Visit rockmusic84's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by blckfrncs

western star

do you feel bad about it?

and i can't remember the 3rd.



Awesome, Thank You Very Much!!!

In "Western Star"... would that be the part where Scott does that cymbal crash going into the "Dancing to the new bolero" part?

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Steak n Sabre
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Uzbekistan
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Posted - 03/16/2007 :  06:08:27  Show Profile  Visit Steak n Sabre's Homepage  Reply with Quote
And his figure blocks the light
And he takes away the night
And he's dancing to the new bolero

{Me thinks edit is here}

Yo soy un pistolero
I'm not shakin' in my boots

...Is 'I Can't Remember' a bonus track??, it's not on my CD =:P


What?... Me Worry???

Edited by - Steak n Sabre on 03/16/2007 06:13:20
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rockmusic84
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USA
256 Posts

Posted - 03/16/2007 :  08:53:01  Show Profile  Visit rockmusic84's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Steak n Sabre

...Is 'I Can't Remember' a bonus track??, it's not on my CD =:P


Good one...

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