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OLDMANOTY
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 02/16/2007 : 06:16:55
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What are the reactions of friends to Frank's music when you introduce it to them?
I have friends (no, really) who have bewildered me by their brutal dismisals upon hearing what I consider to be life-changing music. I remember once on a long car journey, we'd all brought cds to play on the way. After a couple of hours of listening to their choices (Wilco - pretty good, Elliot Smith - great, Stereophonics - aaarrrgghh)it was my turn and I slipped on DITS. At first there was no reaction at all, in fact my friends decided to have a conversation half way through 'Blast Off' (how dare they!) which continued until the opening bars of 'Stupid Me' upon which one of them laughed out loud and said "what is this shit?". Hurt but unperterbed and with a 'just wait till you hear this' expression on my face, I deployed TOTY. Four minutes later the words "can we have the Stereophonics back on" spewed forth and still haunt me to this day.
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 02/16/2007 : 06:28:27
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I've had some good friends openly mocking me when I played them Surf Epic, but I can understand such a reaction. Generally though my friends like Frank Black. Better said, those who dont' like him aren't likely to become friends of mine.
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 02/16/2007 : 06:38:35
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You started your friends with the wrong era, Oldman. I've never been able to turn anyone on to Frank without starting with Pixies songs. You've got to ease people into him.
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/16/2007 : 07:01:48
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Me and a friend sort of discovered the Pixies together so for both of us the progression to Frank Black came naturally after we'd already both bought everything by the Pixies. I think I'm more into FB than he is though.
Apart from that I don't even try introducing FB to friends. They already think I'm obsessed so they think that however good I say an album is it's an exaggeration.
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1718 Posts |
Posted - 02/16/2007 : 07:03:56
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I've only tried once -- sent someone a copy of Teenager of the Year, not imagining that his reaction could be anything less than enthusastic. But he replied with something along the lines of, "As for the Frank Black--I'm still feeling nauseous". I was quite shocked.
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
777 Posts |
Posted - 02/16/2007 : 07:58:27
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Like cigarettes, music acts more like a social link than a real interest fot itself.
For all the oddballs that really LIKE music: enjoy and dont worry, you got it right ! |
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houstonguthrie
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 02/16/2007 : 09:46:04
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what's that quote they run on the front page sometimes from Frank - "you're never going to like one of my records if you only listen to it once" - very accurate
some people - most people actually - don't want to hear anything new - they only want to hear what is already familiar to them
that's why you have Jimmy Buffet fans - (does anybody really need to hear "Cheeseburger in Paradise for the 500,000th time?) and people that only listen to classic rock radio (Stairway to Freebird) - or the local "BUZZ" alternative station that's still playing the same Green Day and Oasis songs they were playing 15 years ago.
musicians generally are not like that - they like to hear something new - they like to hear something for the first time. When I hear somebody playing something I've never heard before that I like - I'm intrigued. that's the biggest musical thrill for me - is discovering something new
Non-musicians can hear something that they sort of like the sound of - but they don't have the patience to get to know it - can't even make it to the end of the song a lot of times. They're listening to music for entertainment and there's nothing entertaining to them about discovering something new - they want to "rock out" to something they already know.
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SPEEDYMARIEGONZALES
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 02/16/2007 : 10:43:44
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| i turned 2 of my frends on to frank when toty first came out, both of my friends and i have played in a band together for almost 20 years, one friend(bass player) can sort of take frank and the pixies or leave it the other friend(guitarist singer) frank has become probably his favorite we have seen him together 4 times now. anyway thats my story. |
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 02/16/2007 : 12:04:30
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Originally posted by houstonguthrie
what's that quote they run on the front page sometimes from Frank - "you're never going to like one of my records if you only listen to it once" - very accurate
I often think of the alternative version of that quote, to the effect that one needs to listen to it three times. When you give some Frank to somebody you almost want to follow along and strap headphones onto their heads to make sure they do just that. My oldest and probably best friend, a guy whose musical opinion I respect above those of all others, just won't give Frank a chance and it makes me want to kick his ass.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 02/16/2007 : 13:03:43
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My wife has endured years of my fanaticism about Frank Black. I've played the CDs at home and once in awhile in the car (mostly I listen at work) so she's heard him and the Pixies, but she was never interested. She didn't think he was bad, but it didn't excite her. However, when I bought the Christmass album I took it out to the car one day and it ended staying in our CD player for about a month. She's hooked. She loves the lyrics. I don't think she'll particularly like the louder stuff, but Frank's later catalog (SMYT, DITS, and BLD) is what she's now ready for. While I was out of town, she dug out SMYT and gave it a listen.
My point: people have different tastes and you can't be sure what's going to hook them |
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
777 Posts |
Posted - 02/16/2007 : 13:06:16
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Originally posted by Erebus
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Originally posted by houstonguthrie
what's that quote they run on the front page sometimes from Frank - "you're never going to like one of my records if you only listen to it once" - very accurate
I often think of the alternative version of that quote, to the effect that one needs to listen to it three times. When you give some Frank to somebody you almost want to follow along and strap headphones onto their heads to make sure they do just that. My oldest and probably best friend, a guy whose musical opinion I respect above those of all others, just won't give Frank a chance and it makes me want to kick his ass.
I know it could sound pretentious, but there is a stong idea of free will in Frank Black music: "Here is the song, you might like it, but it's your choice."
You can't convert other people, they have to do it themselves.
It's exatly the difference between Hitchcock and Bunuel.
Hitchcock tells you everything with his camera and makes you feel quite smart (but actually he fools you). It's all kids cinema. It's all FM hits.
Bunuel makes his movie without caring too much about the audience because he thinks they're big boys now and they don't need so much attention. To respect them, ignore them. Beefheart of course did the same.
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Adam
= Cult of Ray =
USA
505 Posts |
Posted - 02/16/2007 : 13:35:59
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OLDMAN, that is the same reaction I always get. I've never turned anyone onto FB and they usually think Pixies is worse. It's the screaming they don't like.
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 02/16/2007 : 13:50:46
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Mrs. Coastline didn't like Frank Black before "Honeycomb." She called it noisy music. Nowadays, she likes when I play anything from "Show Me Your Tears" on -- mostly, I think, because she likes his voice when he's singing "nicely." Recently, I had some early or middle Catholics CD on, and she suddenly remembered her distaste for the earlier, louder stuff, which I hadn't played for a long time. There are songs of Frank's that I really love, like "All My Ghosts" and "Jet Black River," that I think she (and most people) will never care for. And I can see why. They're very unconventional songs, and just aren't going to click for a lot of people. Then again, my wife has always loved the Pixies, and they were pretty loud and pretty unconventional.
I guess the whole point is that it's hard to put a finger on which of Frank's songs anyone's going to like.
You know, the more we discuss these topics -- and there are a few old Frank/new Frank threads going around right now -- the more I realize what an amazing body of work this guy is building. I'm so curious what this "uptempo" music on "Bluefinger" is going to sound like. I wonder whether I'm going to be disappointed at first, and eventually warm up to it (like with BLD and DW), or if I'll fall for it immediately, like I did with most of the new songs he was singing last year. And I wonder whether it'll be commercially accepted. (Just kidding.)
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Jefrey
= Cult of Ray =
USA
918 Posts |
Posted - 02/17/2007 : 02:19:41
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Originally posted by coastline
You started your friends with the wrong era, Oldman. I've never been able to turn anyone on to Frank without starting with Pixies songs. You've got to ease people into him.
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.
I don't know if I agree or disagree, but I think to get into any artist something either has to hook you into it or someone has to keep jamming it down your throat till you get it (it took me some convincing to like GBV). The Pixies have some songs that are either instantly likable or recognizable for most people, so that makes it an easier starting point.
Sure, DITS is a great album, but I can't imagine anyone having a great reaction to it if that's the first FB you ever heard. Would you even get through "Blast Off" if it was the first FB or Pixies you ever heard? I don't think so.
I'd be curious to know how FB fans that were not Pixies fans first got into him.
I would think you'd have to start with 'headache' or 'los angeles' - something immediately catchy, and then if they like it, you give them a taste of some more.
My wife made a "Pixies Primer" for my brother-in-law, who saw how big fans we are, but didn't know the music or where to start. the Primer has a great sequence of stuff from all their albums and B-sides and had become one of his favorites. Of course it was tailor made to convert someone to be a fan. I think that's the way to go if you want to make a convert. It's much better than the "best of" album, which really isn't the best.
Now that he likes the Pixies, I can attempt the "Frank Black Primer" and see how it does.
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duplicatedman
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Posted - 02/17/2007 : 05:28:29
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I'd be curious to know how FB fans that were not Pixies fans first got into him.
I would think you'd have to start with 'headache' or 'los angeles' - something immediately catchy, and then if they like it, you give them a taste of some more.
My wife made a "Pixies Primer" for my brother-in-law, who saw how big fans we are, but didn't know the music or where to start. the Primer has a great sequence of stuff from all their albums and B-sides and had become one of his favorites. Of course it was tailor made to convert someone to be a fan. I think that's the way to go if you want to make a convert. It's much better than the "best of" album, which really isn't the best.
Now that he likes the Pixies, I can attempt the "Frank Black Primer" and see how it does.
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That would be me.
I liked the Pixies but wasn't an uber fan of theirs. I had heard Los Angeles of course but actually found it kind of annoying.
The guy who turned me onto FB and is largely responsible for me being an uber-fan made a "primer" called "The Incomplete Frank Black" for me around the time Cult of Ray came out.
The songs in order are....
"I Heard Ramona Sing"
"Hang on to Your Ego"
"Czar"
"Old Black Dawning"
"Ten Percenter"
"Two Spaces"
"Don't Ya Rile 'Em"
"Whatever Happened to Pong?
"Thalassocracy"
Calistan – 3:22
The Vanishing Spies – 3:37
Sir Rockaby
Freedom Rock
Fiddle Riddle
Fazer Eyes
The Hostess with the Mostest
Superabound
White Noise Maker
Bad, Wicked World
"Men In Black *"
"Jesus Was Right"
"Kicked In The Taco"
"The Adventure And The Resolution *"
"Dance War *"
"The Cult Of Ray"
I find it absolutely fascinating what songs he left off this mix and which ones he kept. He knew I wasn't a fan of "Los Angeles" and that I probably wouldn't be all that down with "Headache". I immediately responded well to Ten Percenter, Two Spaces, The Vanishing Spies, Sir Rockaby, White Noise Maker and Freedom Rock. Many of the other songs took a few listens to really get. I remember it taking me longer to warm up to "Hang on to Your Ego" than any other song on the mix.
If I had to make a mix for someone I would certainly include many of the songs he did as it worked on me. I would probably be more creative though in the song order and "ease" the listener in a bit with more accessible songs so as to not lose someone before "Ramona" ends. I would also have made the mix shorter than the one given to me but in my case my friend knew I was the perfect convert and had quite a good sense for my aattention span.
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tisasawath
= Cult of Ray =
Wallis and Futuna Islands
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Posted - 02/17/2007 : 09:41:00
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wow, the mix really is amazing - if I got it as a primer I'd definitely miss some songs from the first two records that with me made the click right away, like Places Named After Numbers, Brackish Boy, Speedy Marie, Pie In The Sky, Headache (that one from seeing the video, like with Hang On To Your Ego).
Some time ago I'd been thinking just that - a condensed primer to hook a person or three to fb. Then after a few lame attempts I let it go, thinking...well, you can't blame me for trying to help you, can you..
This list makes me wonder if we could even arrive at a homogenous poll result for an "easy/hooky/accesible fb song selection for the uninitiated", something that would make them come back for more... 'the first one's free' (incidentaly my first choice was Whispering Weeds).
It seems that trying to tailor such a list to someone wouldn't work quite as desired, but I still wonder if/how much such poll results would differ by gender, age group and such.
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IceCream
= Quote Accumulator =
USA
1850 Posts |
Posted - 02/17/2007 : 15:30:42
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OLDMANTOTY, I had an experience similar to that. I was trying to introduce my friend to Guided by Voices. Well, it did not work.
There's a quote from Kevin Fennell that's really assuring, though:
"There are lots of people who don't get it, and they'll never get it....I don't think you can make someone get it - you're either Guided by Voices or you aren't." |
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Jefrey
= Cult of Ray =
USA
918 Posts |
Posted - 02/17/2007 : 17:12:11
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Originally posted by IceCream
OLDMANTOTY, I had an experience similar to that. I was trying to introduce my friend to Guided by Voices. Well, it did not work.
There's a quote from Kevin Fennell that's really assuring, though:
"There are lots of people who don't get it, and they'll never get it....I don't think you can make someone get it - you're either Guided by Voices or you aren't."
I think you can be made to get it. It took someone I really respect as an artist and musician to keep telling me I was wrong, so I kept trying and finally it clicked.
But there's so many styles of GBV songs that you could easily trick someone into liking them. I did the same thing with the Beatles to someone who professed to ahte the Beatles. I made a mix of obscure, but good Beatles songs and played it on a road trip and wouldn't tell him what band it was until about the 8th song. He didn't beleive me at first, but then had to admit he liked it.
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
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Posted - 02/18/2007 : 16:55:10
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But would you really like it if it was an easy conversion?
And all the friends that you think have lame tastes in music were singing his praises?
And all of a sudden Frank was a staple on the radio and winning grammys?
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For Chrissakes have a cup of tea. |
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
777 Posts |
Posted - 02/19/2007 : 08:55:10
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Let's admit it: we are snobs!
(I'm not sure if the word snob exists in english) |
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Jefrey
= Cult of Ray =
USA
918 Posts |
Posted - 02/19/2007 : 22:34:28
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Originally posted by Carolynanna
But would you really like it if it was an easy conversion?
And all the friends that you think have lame tastes in music were singing his praises?
And all of a sudden Frank was a staple on the radio and winning grammys?
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For Chrissakes have a cup of tea.
That happened to my wife in college. She would play Nirvana and other new stuff and all the sorority twits would give her the "what the hell is this crap?" look. A few months later they were all playing it at parties....bleh.
But she also wore a concert T that said "Did you miss Ned's Atomic Dustbin? Then YOU FUCKED UP!" on the back in pink neon, so that made up for it.
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mikaelp75
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Posted - 02/20/2007 : 04:20:20
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The guy who did sound for a band we toured with through Europe kept playing Hang On To Your Ego and Papa's Got A Brand New Bag to get the levels, and when I realized that was the same guy who did Los Angeles, which I'd heard at a party and loved, I got that album. Just when we got home from the tour, the guitarist in the band (who already liked early Frank & Pixies) got Devil's Workshop & Black Letter Days to review for a Swedish metal mag and asked for my input, so I listened to them, raved about them and didn't give them back.
I put The Black Rider & His Kingly Cave on a mixed tape for my potential new girlfriend & she loved them straight away. Never heard of the guy, she said. Later, looking through her mom's cd collection I found a copy of Surfer Rosa that she'd bought as a teenager and forgotten about. Doolittle is now her favourite cd of all time but as a whole she prefers Frank solo. If Your Poison Gets You is her favourite track. I'm happily living with her in the UK and she has made TWO Frank tapes of her own for the car. Yeah, it was meant to be. |
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misterwoe
= Cult of Ray =
Greece
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Posted - 02/20/2007 : 10:25:29
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Over the years I've managed to turn about 4 friends onto FB. Incidentally, I was familiar with FB before I knew about the Pixies, and the first album I heard was TOTY. So that's usually the first one I play for people. But I think I'll make a mix next time.
In high school, I loaned TOTY to a girl I had a crush, and she thought it was my idea of a practical joke. I couldn't understand why she would think that. Things were never the same between us again.
It's true that it would be strange if FB started getting crazy amounts of attention and constant radio play. I don't think it would diminish my enjoyment of his music. I'd be more like: "I told you so!"
The best way to turn someone onto FB: TAKE THEM TO A SHOW.
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moksha23x
- FB Fan -
USA
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Posted - 02/20/2007 : 14:54:22
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One day an old friend surprised me with a phonecall , saying she flew into SF and was driving north on the 101 to Humboldt(her home) and she was going to be passing by my home (sonoma County). She said told me she didn't have much time but "let's meet for lunch.......and oh! I have no music(rental car), make me some CD's." I hurried to make some mixes on the fly.......I made a few mixes each of a band, I can't remember all I gave her.....Sparklehorse, Arcade Fire, Joanna Newsom, Ray Davies, new Bob Dylan (Modern Times)..? and of course I thought it a great time to turn someone onto Frank Black. I made the mix pretty quickly just pickin out songs I thought she might be able to resonate with ........I look at it now and I guess its strange, I have blocks of certain new albums and "Fare Thee Well" at the beginning of the mix. Regardless, two days later I received a call and even though I gave her like five other CD's of different bands she said, THanks for the music! I really love the Frank Black one. She told me her daughter, named Utopia (we call her Topie, she's 7)....loved Llanno Del Rio, she loves singing it. I was stoked that she loved it. I offered to buy her and her husband tix for the SF Fillmore show...she couldn't make it though. Anyway here's the mix:
Atom In My Heart
Bullet
California Bound
Coastline
Cold Heart Of Stone
Dark End Of The Street
Fare Thee Well
Fast Man
Fitzgerald
Go Find Your Saint
Holland Town
Horrible Day
I Burn Today
I Will Run After You
If Your Poison Gets You
Jaina Blues
Llano Del Rio
Preacher's Daughter
Six-Sixty-Six
Southbend Bevy
Sunny Sunday Mill Valley Groove day
True Blue
Whispering Weeds
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7443 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2007 : 00:01:43
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That's a very nice tracklist, moksha. Did you leave it on alphabetical order?
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
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Posted - 02/21/2007 : 04:32:42
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Yeah, great set. For the most part, it's pretty mellow, which is indeed what you have to do when you're trying to turn people on to Frank Black. The loud stuff just doesn't work at first, in my experience.
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moksha23x
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Posted - 02/21/2007 : 08:34:38
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Originally posted by vilainde
That's a very nice tracklist, moksha. Did you leave it on alphabetical order?
I have the mix saved as a playlist in iTunes.......so I don't know if its the original order??? I'm positive that 'Atom In My Heart' was first on the mix...Like I said I made this mix really quickly...... If I really made a mix in alphabetical order on the fly, that's pretty weird???? |
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
777 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2007 : 11:49:29
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No, it's one of the problems of itunes. It changes the order when you click up the list or when you open it again.
One of the orders it gives is alphabetical order (when you click the "name" column I think) |
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jackelope
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Posted - 03/04/2007 : 00:14:46
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I've never been able to get anyone interested in Frank's music. My wife likes SMYT a bit, because it was brand-new when we were starting to date and I played it for her a few times back then, but she's not by any stretch a "fan."
He really is tough to get to know. With every single one of his albums, I go through the same process: I hear it, I don't like it. I hear it a few more times, and finally one song sort of catches my interest, and gradually I come around and "get" the album, and then it knocks something off my Desert Island List.
Even after I noticed this pattern, it still kept happening; the first time I heard Fast Man Raider Man, I said to myself, "OK, you're not going to like it the first time..." and it didn't help. I could barely finish listening to it. I gave it a few more listens, and it still never clicked, and then one day in class (I'm in law school) I found myself mentally singing "In the Time of My Ruin." Suddenly it all clicked for me, and I'm hooked.
With Devil's Workshop, the first song that clicked was "Fields of Marigold." With SMYT, it was "This Old Heartache." With Black Letter Days, it was "Chip Away Boy." It always takes a while for me to figure out a new Frank Black album; I can't imagine trying to get someone else to dial in with it. |
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Jefrey
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 03/04/2007 : 02:02:12
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Originally posted by jackelope
I've never been able to get anyone interested in Frank's music. My wife likes SMYT a bit, because it was brand-new when we were starting to date and I played it for her a few times back then, but she's not by any stretch a "fan."
He really is tough to get to know. With every single one of his albums, I go through the same process: I hear it, I don't like it. I hear it a few more times, and finally one song sort of catches my interest, and gradually I come around and "get" the album, and then it knocks something off my Desert Island List.
Even after I noticed this pattern, it still kept happening; the first time I heard Fast Man Raider Man, I said to myself, "OK, you're not going to like it the first time..." and it didn't help. I could barely finish listening to it. I gave it a few more listens, and it still never clicked, and then one day in class (I'm in law school) I found myself mentally singing "In the Time of My Ruin." Suddenly it all clicked for me, and I'm hooked.
With Devil's Workshop, the first song that clicked was "Fields of Marigold." With SMYT, it was "This Old Heartache." With Black Letter Days, it was "Chip Away Boy." It always takes a while for me to figure out a new Frank Black album; I can't imagine trying to get someone else to dial in with it.
I think with the best bands of all times it takes some effort just because the 'differentness' is what sets it apart from all the rest.
Ironically, the song that really made me appreciate the Rolling Stones was "Torn & Frayed" off "Exile On Main Street". It's a song that sounds more like the Grateful Dead than what you think of as the Stones. But it's quite like a lot of the later Frank Black stuff in a lot of ways.
It took quite a few listens of 'Exile On Main Street' to really get why it's one of the great albums. People are going to be talking about 'Exile" forever, but I'm pretty sure the Stereophonics won't be in the Rock 'n' Roll hall of fame.
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *
France
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Posted - 07/04/2007 : 01:21:16
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My latest uninteresting anecdote about "FB/Pixies fans and the generation gap" goes like this:
I was talking to a lovely young woman of 22 about the Frank Black concert I was going to attend the following day.
"So (says she), who is it you're going to see?
- Frank Black.
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- You know the Pixies ? He's the singer in the Pixies.
- I thought the girl was the singer in the Pixies."
Later, I showed her the 93-03 album I'd just bought:
"That's the guy.
- Oh, right. I know who the Pixies are - I saw them at [some festival or other], but I didn't really like it. I like the cover versions better."
I was puzzled by that last statement, but didn't press on, as I could foresee this turning into a righteous rant from yours truly about how nobody in their right mind could rate James Blunt or Placebo above Frank... couldn't see any point in inflicting that on that poor girl, bless her.
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 07/04/2007 : 02:35:39
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No use trying to turn somebody on to someone if there's even a hint that you're not gonna understand if they don't get it. That added pressure would turn anybody off before they've even listened. Good call jedi. The irony is she could so easily become FB's greatest fan if a song catches fire for her. There's just no telling. That's how it should be. Too many of us want a world created in our own image.
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Nova
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/04/2007 : 05:09:01
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My college tutor was very un-flattering about Mr Black when I showed him some tracks, being a musician himself this suprised me, but then again he was in a Robbie Williams tribute band so I guess there is no accounting for taste.
Apart from that Ive found that People are either instantly put off or are instantly amazed. My younger brother and my mom were early converts. And more recently after bombarding a good friend with Frank tracks he's decided he likes him that much that he's gonna come to London with me to see him on the 15th!
goodtimes.
http://thatjayblog.blogspot.com/ |
Edited by - Nova on 07/04/2007 15:19:13 |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 07/04/2007 : 09:22:06
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quote:
Originally posted by Nova
My college tutor was very un-flattering about Mr Black when I showed him some tracks, being a musician himself this suprised me, but then again he was in a Robbie Williams tribute band so I guess their is no accounting for taste.
Yeah, that definitely explains it. |
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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1594 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2007 : 13:18:47
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Does anyone recall a video with a young girl singing a Pixies or Frank Black song? I think that could be key to compiling a list of catchy FB music. Western Star must be a song a kid would like? And what song did Frank's son mention on the podcast?
I hooked two of my friends on Surfer Rosa, one by forcing him to listen to it in the car ("I hate it." "Just listen to it again" "OK, I like, no I love it.") and one just by playing it subtly in the background a few times, but a third friend, a very good musician, is actually fearful that he may like it if he were more exposed and has asked me to never play FB or Pixies for him again (that guy who writes those weird songs).
BLD and DW, Fields of Marigold was the first song that caught my ear as well, I was quickly obsessed with it. I really disliked BLD when they were released and I had never considered it a great album until just these last few weeks, it's all that I want to hear.
This thread has affirmed for me that most people are put off by enthusiasm. Play the same music st your next few parties.
(This is one ugly monosyllabic post, sorry). |
Edited by - hammerhands on 07/04/2007 13:50:49 |
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mr.biscuitdoughhead
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 07/04/2007 : 13:38:59
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quote:
Originally posted by hammerhands
And what song did Frank's son mention on the podcast?
Headache, I think.
Hey, that's my line |
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Perplexing reactions of the uninitiated
