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martha_promise
= Cult of Ray =
USA
398 Posts |
 Posted - 12/07/2006 : 21:07:37
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After watching and listening to this yet again, I'd like to retract my previous statement. I don't think it's good/cool.
I just think it's lovely.
Absolutely lovely and brilliant and amazing.
...elevation indeed. nicely done.
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Stevio10
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1118 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2006 : 21:15:04
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| For the first few moments I didn't think that was FB in the video, it wasnt until the side on view that I realised it was. It feels like going back in time 13 years in every sense. |
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FranknWeezer
= Cult of Ray =
USA
356 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2006 : 21:20:30
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That creepy shot of FB lying on his back and looking back and forth reminded me of something/somebody, but I couldn't quite place it, until now:
Scott Weiland
Anybody agree?
-FranknWeezer |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2006 : 21:25:37
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it's nice to hear Frank doing his own background vocals in a song again. just goes to show how much better he can make an already good song
at least that's what your mom said |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2006 : 21:36:07
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Yeah, this is indeed a really cool video. Feels very sad somehow.
 "Now you're officially my woman. Kudos. I can't say I don't envy you." |
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MylesMM
-= FB's Crew =-
USA
12 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2006 : 23:06:12
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such a great video!!! thanks c + v + j
Here is my story on how this song came about. its actually the only all studio song on the album. the rest of the album is in chronological order (more or less) but this one was recorded after the tour was over - during the tour with the whole band. Which I was not on. I was back at the studio scrambling to get the CD out to you all by Christmas. Even still, it seems like it sits nicely in its place on the reocord.
On October 3rd Frank was playing a show in NYC. After the show he rented a car and drove up to Hartford and got a hotel. On the 4th I had Black Stone Cherry in the studio all day but we really wanted to try and get this new song down that Charles had just written. During the BSC session everyone took a break for lunch and Charles walked over to the studio. Its only about a block a way.
He recorded the guitar tracks on his Martin and then sang the song a couple of times thru. Right when he had to leave we did one more pass and he decided to try it as a whisper... I reached over and twisted the preamp on the mic all the way to full about 2 seconds before he started to sing. Its the mic being so hot and him singing so quiet that gives it that eerie sound. The vocal track is totally dry. no effects at all. And he sang this in one take all the way thru!
Charles hopped back in the car and drove up to Boston for another show that night. The next day Erik James laid down the B3 organ part and Mark Mulcahly drove down from Springfield to record the background vocals. Not sure how we came up with those parts - it just happened. It was one of those magic moments where everything just comes together.
Myles
for all you tech heads here is the recording chain:
guitar - Martin into a countryman DI, into a Universal Audio 2-610 tube preamp.
vocals - a Neumann U87ai (with a Stedman metal pop filter) into a Groove Tubes Vipre Tube Preamp, into a DBX 160SL compressor, into a Digidesign 192 A/D converter, recorded into Protools at 96k / 24bit. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2006 : 23:10:14
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Cool story! Did you have any involvement with the video Myles? I know you were pushing for it, or at least that's the word on the street. In any case, thanks for your info, very appreciated as always.
"Now you're officially my woman. Kudos. I can't say I don't envy you." |
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MylesMM
-= FB's Crew =-
USA
12 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2006 : 23:30:24
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| no i was not involved with the video. it was all done in-house. the thompson house, that is. |
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-
France
2715 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2006 : 23:45:57
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quote:
Originally posted by MylesMM
guitar - Martin into a countryman DI, into a Universal Audio 2-610 tube preamp.
vocals - a Neumann U87ai (with a Stedman metal pop filter) into a Groove Tubes Vipre Tube Preamp, into a DBX 160SL compressor, into a Digidesign 192 A/D converter, recorded into Protools at 96k / 24bit.
That's what I suspected 
Many thanks Myles, your words are honey to our souls ;)
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BLACKOLERO le only Frank Black / Pixies site 100% in français |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7443 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2006 : 00:16:39
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Originally posted by Grunty Yodus
Man, this shit is unreal and mantaray, I thought the same thing when I watched it---Bowie---
... and I thought "Uncle Fester". Is that wrong?
Denis
"Pablo Picasso was never called an asshole. Not like you." |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7443 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2006 : 00:18:59
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quote:
Originally posted by MylesMM
Charles hopped back in the car and drove up to Boston for another show that night. The next day Erik James laid down the B3 organ part and Mark Mulcahly drove down from Springfield to record the background vocals.
Wow, I really thought Frank did all the background vocals.
Thanks a bunch Myles, you're our new hero. Just don't ever try to make us buy Ellis Hooks CDs...
Denis
"Pablo Picasso was never called an asshole. Not like you." |
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1965
= Cult of Ray =
Australia
799 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2006 : 01:50:11
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Great tune & very good video too. Nice montage of images. Simple ideas/production are often the best.
(( I'm a Snake... )) |
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Jefrey
= Cult of Ray =
USA
918 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2006 : 04:59:42
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Video is totally vintage Bowie. Yet new. So great.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2006 : 05:19:48
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Originally posted by vilainde
quote:
Originally posted by MylesMM
Charles hopped back in the car and drove up to Boston for another show that night. The next day Erik James laid down the B3 organ part and Mark Mulcahly drove down from Springfield to record the background vocals.
Just don't ever try to make us buy Ellis Hooks CDs...
Denis
"Pablo Picasso was never called an asshole. Not like you."
Hahaha, I laughed out loud at this and then chuckled in the shower some more.
"Now you're officially my woman. Kudos. I can't say I don't envy you." |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7443 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2006 : 05:23:40
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well it's always a pleasure to know you think about me in the shower...
Denis
"Pablo Picasso was never called an asshole. Not like you." |
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remig
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1734 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2006 : 06:03:51
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frankoholic
- FB Fan -
Belgium
38 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2006 : 07:02:00
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| best production since surfer rosa. Now i know that a new pixies album would be superb. dgmw and gyaneshwar are kind of neo pixie style. I looove it. |
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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *
1079 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2006 : 07:13:19
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Pixies songs and Frank Black songs are actually Frank Black songs just as Frank Black and the Catholics songs are Frank Black songs... etc...
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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *
1079 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2006 : 07:17:08
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The video looks a bit like the Life on Mars video by Bowie and the raw arty feeling of ashes to ashes. He is moving his eyes in a very feminine way as well... Personnaly he reminds me a bit (and better) of Robert Smith.
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Levitated
= Cult of Ray =
Chile
652 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2006 : 07:20:02
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Originally posted by FranknWeezer
That creepy shot of FB lying on his back and looking back and forth reminded me of something/somebody, but I couldn't quite place it, until now:
Scott Weiland
Anybody agree?
-FranknWeezer
I thought the exact same thing, but then again Bowie > Frank / Bowie > Weiland. It looks like the video of Barbarella.
Awesome video really loved it! |
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
2463 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2006 : 07:28:04
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| Yeah, the Bowie comparison that really strikes me is the video for 'Be My Wife'; a slightly madeup Bowie against a stark white background, playing a guitar. Brilliant. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2006 : 08:51:06
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Originally posted by MylesMM
such a great video!!! thanks c + v + j
Here is my story on how this song came about. its actually the only all studio song on the album. the rest of the album is in chronological order (more or less) but this one was recorded after the tour was over - during the tour with the whole band. Which I was not on. I was back at the studio scrambling to get the CD out to you all by Christmas. Even still, it seems like it sits nicely in its place on the reocord.
On October 3rd Frank was playing a show in NYC. After the show he rented a car and drove up to Hartford and got a hotel. On the 4th I had Black Stone Cherry in the studio all day but we really wanted to try and get this new song down that Charles had just written. During the BSC session everyone took a break for lunch and Charles walked over to the studio. Its only about a block a way.
He recorded the guitar tracks on his Martin and then sang the song a couple of times thru. Right when he had to leave we did one more pass and he decided to try it as a whisper... I reached over and twisted the preamp on the mic all the way to full about 2 seconds before he started to sing. Its the mic being so hot and him singing so quiet that gives it that eerie sound. The vocal track is totally dry. no effects at all. And he sang this in one take all the way thru!
Charles hopped back in the car and drove up to Boston for another show that night. The next day Erik James laid down the B3 organ part and Mark Mulcahly drove down from Springfield to record the background vocals. Not sure how we came up with those parts - it just happened. It was one of those magic moments where everything just comes together.
Myles
for all you tech heads here is the recording chain:
guitar - Martin into a countryman DI, into a Universal Audio 2-610 tube preamp.
vocals - a Neumann U87ai (with a Stedman metal pop filter) into a Groove Tubes Vipre Tube Preamp, into a DBX 160SL compressor, into a Digidesign 192 A/D converter, recorded into Protools at 96k / 24bit.
I could use an album full of this material!
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MylesMM
-= FB's Crew =-
USA
12 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2006 : 09:20:12
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Wow, I really thought Frank did all the background vocals.
Their voices blend together so nicely. wait till you hear "Radio Lizards of Whoring". |
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-
France
2715 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2006 : 10:01:57
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Originally posted by MylesMM
wait till you hear "Radio Lizards of Whoring".
If it's only half as good as its title, it's certainly a monument.
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BLACKOLERO le only Frank Black / Pixies site 100% in français |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2006 : 10:08:31
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| i knew it wasn't him doing background vocals |
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Sam
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
514 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2006 : 10:15:37
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quote:
Originally posted by vilainde
quote:
Originally posted by MylesMM
Charles hopped back in the car and drove up to Boston for another show that night. The next day Erik James laid down the B3 organ part and Mark Mulcahly drove down from Springfield to record the background vocals.
Wow, I really thought Frank did all the background vocals.
Thanks a bunch Myles, you're our new hero. Just don't ever try to make us buy Ellis Hooks CDs...
Denis
"Pablo Picasso was never called an asshole. Not like you."
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2006 : 11:34:37
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Strange and quite cool, good to see an official Frank video!
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
4903 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2006 : 08:24:28
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I've just tried playing along but how many chord changes??
CEREAL?!! |
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FranknWeezer
= Cult of Ray =
USA
356 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2006 : 13:04:28
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I got as far as C Am Dm C, C Am F G, then it goes back and forth from C to Dm for a bit b/f he starts singing. Then the baby woke up and I quit.
Feel free to correct the above.
-FranknWeezer
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 12/14/2006 : 10:49:17
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I just read that Mark Mulchaly was the singer of Miracle Legion, yes, the band of Dave McCaffrey and Scott Boutier
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God save the Noisies |
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MylesMM
-= FB's Crew =-
USA
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Posted - 12/16/2006 : 09:50:46
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[quote]Originally posted by billgoodman
I just read that Mark Mulchaly was the singer of Miracle Legion, yes, the band of Dave McCaffrey and Scott Boutier
Yes that an interestig story. Scott and Dave quit Miracle Legion to join Frank Black as the Catholics. Mark then started his solo career. The 3 of them are also the band that you see at the begining of the Pete and Pete show on Nic. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 12/18/2006 : 02:34:52
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'' obviously, I have never seen the Pete and Pete show! ''
was the thing that went through my head when reading your last post.
So I googled 'pete and pete' and I was shocked to see that weird show
that was broadcasted briefly in the Netherlands. Funny how you can forget
about things you watched as a child. Memories, nostalgia....blabla. Thanks Myles!
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PaddyTB
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 01/04/2007 : 23:25:22
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Is it possible to download this video from somewhere instead of watching on youtube ?
Thanks |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 01/05/2007 : 05:59:53
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This site claims to have an effective YouTube video grabber, called iTube:
http://www.benjaminstrahs.com/itube.php
You could try that. I'd be curious how well it works out for you. It's for a PC, and the only PCs I use belong to my employer, and I can't install things like this on them.
 Is that a real poncho or is that a Sears poncho? |
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danjersey
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
2792 Posts |
Posted - 01/05/2007 : 23:06:26
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quote:
Originally posted by FranknWeezer
I got as far as C Am Dm C, C Am F G, then it goes back and forth from C to Dm for a bit b/f he starts singing. Then the baby woke up and I quit.
Feel free to correct the above.
-FranknWeezer
hey those chords sound right. thanks.
the video is pretty intimate
frank black rock
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