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s_wrenn
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Posted - 11/21/2006 :  04:51:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
...Is going ahead without Peter Jackson
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6167972.stm

I'm not a huge Rings fan, but i can understand that this will piss a lot of people off.




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Homers_pet_monkey
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Posted - 11/21/2006 :  05:45:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't care who does it, so long as they do as good a job as Jackson did with the trilogy.

It's funny because I was just saying on Sunday night whilst watching the Return of The King, that I wish they would make The Hobbit. It was always on the cards.




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Cult_Of_Frank
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Posted - 11/21/2006 :  07:11:58  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Big mistake. They should just pay him what's fair. Bloody studios.


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Carl
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Posted - 11/21/2006 :  07:22:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
But don't MGM still hold the rights?! Apparently, they wanted to do it as two movies, which PJ thought would be a good idea, since the book of The Hobbit doesn't have quite the epic scale of LOTRs, and he thought he could delve into the things that hint at developments in Rings a bit. I have to say, the idea of a non-Jackson Hobbit is horrendous, even if a good director and creative team are assigned to it. Jackson's and his team's artistic vision should be carried over to it, really. I would imagine any Rings actors who could be connected to it, such as Ian Holm, Ian McKellan and Andy Serkis, would get cold feet over this decision. I was just watched the documentarys on the Extended King Kong last night, and the passionate, painstaking work that went into it-like Rings-is absolutely mind-boggling.

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s_wrenn
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Posted - 11/21/2006 :  07:28:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Andy Serkis and Peter Jackson are meant to be very close friends. I really can't see him doing The Hobbit without Jackson. So if Serkis refuses, who'll play Gollum then?


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Carl
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Posted - 11/21/2006 :  07:45:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How about David Moyes?



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Homers_pet_monkey
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Posted - 11/21/2006 :  10:27:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a friend who has the voice off to a tee.


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Carl
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Posted - 11/21/2006 :  10:42:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You mean you know Andy Serkis?! ;)




New Line have apparently approached Sam Raimi...Jean-Pierre Jeunet had been rumoured!

Here's Ian McKellan's reaction:

http://www.mckellen.com/epost/lotr/061122.htm

The LOTR fans are already expressing a sense of betrayal. On my own account, I am very sad as I should have relished re-visiting Middle Earth with Peter again as team-leader. It's hard to imagine any other director matching his achievement in Tolkien country. We will have to await developments but being an optimist I am hoping that New Line, MGM and Wingnut can settle outstanding problems so that the long expected "Hobbit" is filmed sooner rather than later.




You can sign an online petition to stop a non-Jackson Hobbit here:

http://www.petitiononline.com/hobnow/petition.html

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Cult_Of_Frank
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Posted - 11/23/2006 :  13:31:49  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well apparently the people holding the rights to Tolkien's works as of next year will do the project only with Peter Jackson. Meaning that at worst there will be a New Line and Tolkien/Jackson version, and more likely, New Line will not be able to go ahead with this.

It is highly unlikely that most of the cast, who were very close to Jackson, would migrate to a commercial and unartistic venture anyway. New Line is trying to rush this out the door/get started before their license expires at the end of the year.


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Posted - 11/23/2006 :  14:40:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I imagine if Jackson doesn't direct the Hobbit, the finished product will be on par with the most recent version of the Chronicles of Narnia: boring and un-epic. I was hoping the recent Narnia would be as epic as Lord of the Rings, but it wasn't. So, hence my comparison... or prophecy?

I am highly dissapointed Jackson won't be doing it. Just doesn't seem right.
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Posted - 11/23/2006 :  15:49:39  Show Profile  Visit mantaraysallright's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by s_wrenn

Andy Serkis and Peter Jackson are meant to be very close friends. I really can't see him doing The Hobbit without Jackson. So if Serkis refuses, who'll play Gollum then?


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Posted - 11/24/2006 :  01:54:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I hope at least this time dwarves get treated as they deserve. Blame Jackson for what he did to Gimli.


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Carl
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Posted - 11/24/2006 :  09:38:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Elijah Wood is also disappointed:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=&xml=/arts/2006/11/24/nosplit/bfpan23.xml

One thing that's not fine with him is news that a new "Hobbit" film might be made without "Lord of the Rings" director Peter Jackson.

"I haven't spoken to Peter," says Wood, who played head Hobbit Frodo in the acclaimed trilogy. "But I was very disappointed in the news. Peter Jackson is the man who worked over 10 years developing this world. Now, they might move forward on a new project with another director and it won't look or feel the same."

Especially since Wood wouldn't be involved either. He is, in fact, the keeper of "the ring" from Jackson's film trilogy.

"It's in a little pouch in a box tucked away. I don't display it," he says. "It's the ring. It's used to being undercover."




The rights will fall back to Saul Zaenth's company next year, which means New Line haven't got their way yet:

http://derhobbit-film.de/indexengl.shtml

11/17/2006
Producer Saul Zaentz said in an interview with the German movie magazine 'Cinema', The Hobbit surely will be made by Peter Jackson. MGM-boss Harry Sloan meanwhile gives 2008 or 2009 as date.

Translation from the magazine:
Q: What is with the long anticipated Hobbit-adaption?
A: It will definitely be shot by Peter Jackson. The question is only when. He wants to shoot another movie first. Next year the Hobbit-rights will fall back to my company. I suppose that Peter will wait because he knows that he will make the best deal with us. And he is fed up with the studios: to get his profit share on the rings trilogy he had to sue New Line. With us in contrast he knows that he will be paid fairly and artistically supported without reservation.




BBC report on events:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6173178.stm?ls




More from Elijah Wood:

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=20036

29 November 2006

Exclusive: Elijah Wood Talks The Hobbit
Frodo on the Rings prequels

When New Line announced several weeks ago that they planned to start work on The Hobbit, a good many Middle Earth enthusiasts were elated. Then New Line informed Jackson that, due to a legal dispute over Lord of the Rings earnings, his services would not be required for that project or a hitherto unknown 'second prequel'. Cue: one disappointed director, and the outrage of thousands of fans.

Keen to find out how those close to the Lord Of The Rings camp feel about the whole mess, Empire sat down with Frodo himself, Elijah Wood, to get his thoughts on the matter. "I feel exactly the same way Peter does."

"I think it's a total shame, primarily for Peter and his team – WETA, and the thousands of people that lent their artistic creativity for ten years to this world of Middle Earth -- to imagine that somebody else would be given that opportunity, and that it essentially wouldn't be made by the same team"

As someone who wouldn't be needed for at least the first of what is increasing looking like two precursor films, Wood has more room to comment than some of the LOTR cast, and spoke candidly. "I can't imagine any of the original actors would want to join it… how can you imagine a prequel that didn't look the same, and didn't have the same continuity after all that work?"

But, like many up to speed on the situation, he's not convinced that the fat Hobbit lady has sung. "At the moment it sounds so definitive, and Peter has said "That's the end of the journey" in a very dramatic way, as Peter is wont to do - but absolute power to him, because I would be equally disappointed if I were him. But I think it remains to be seen, and apparently New Line may lose the rights eventually. If that happens, it would eventually - I think - fall back into Peter's hands. It's just sad that it's ultimately a business decision, and not at all considering the fans."

http://www.mymovies.net/news/news_listing.asp?filmid=5975&sec=news

Elijah backs Jackson in "Hobbit" dispute
29 November 2006

Sir Ian McKellen has already voiced his dismay at New Line Cinema‘s decision to drop director Peter Jackson from their movie of "The Hobbit" and its apparent sequel as, according to Jackson, New Line have refused to consider him for the project as they are currently embroiled in a legal battle over DVD royalities. And this week Middle Earth hero Elijah Wood, Frodo Baggins in Jackson‘s "The Lord Of The Rings" trilogy, told us in London of his concern over the situation.

"If [Peter] ultimately doesn‘t come back because of what New Line has done I think it would be a great tragedy. I think it‘s ultimately quite foolish for New Line to move forward assuming they can create an equally wonderful film without Peter…and I think for that for fans that‘s tragic," Elijah told us, adding "For a long time I never kind of imagined that these movies would ever be made, so if they do get made I think they should be made by Peter."

However the star doesn‘t think we‘ve heard the last of this, saying "I don‘t think it‘s ultimately over though, I think the arguments still up in the air. There‘s talk that New Line will ultimately lose the rights to ["The Hobbit"] and that the rights will fall to the Saul Zaentz company, which is what Saul Zaentz is now saying, so who knows? I think it remains to be seen ultimately what will happen, but it makes me nervous."




The NY Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/29/movies/29hobbit.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Edited by - Carl on 11/29/2006 10:31:22
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Cult_Of_Frank
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Posted - 11/29/2006 :  11:46:38  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
See, I scooped Elijah. :)


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Carl
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Posted - 11/29/2006 :  19:31:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://movies.msn.com/movies/hitlist/11-28-06_2?GT1=7701

WHAT 'THE HOBBIT' IS GOING ON HERE?

You'd think over $1 billion in U.S. box office and three Oscars would add up to something right? Not if you're Peter Jackson. The mastermind behind the "The Lord of the Rings" phenomenon is currently in the middle of a bizarre turf war over who controls J.R.R. Tolkien's prequel to the series, "The Hobbit."

Not surprisingly, fans have been salivating at the idea of Jackson returning to helm an adaptation of the beloved novel. It didn't seem to be a real possibility until MGM announced a few months ago it was going to team up with New Line to make the movie. Complicating matters was that MGM has long owned the rights to release any feature adaptation of "The Hobbit," but New Line is currently the only entity who can produce it. Confused? Unfortunately, it gets more complicated.

According to Variety, Jackson sued New Line over its accounting practices for the "Rings" trilogy, claiming he had been denied profits from the mega-moneymaking films. It also seems New Line only controls the production of "The Hobbit" because of a "limited time option" from producer Saul Zaentz. Those rights are close enough to expiring that the studio informed Jackson he would not be directing the project unless he settled his lawsuit against them. Jackson responded by announcing to his kingdom, er, sending a detailed letter of the whole affair to a prominent "Rings" fan site. As you can imagine, that horde wasn't thrilled. Meanwhile, MGM was furious that New Line would set an ultimatum to Jackson without consulting them. An MGM spokesman was quoted as saying, "The matter of Peter Jackson directing 'The Hobbit' films is far from closed."

Needless to say, everyone involved has a lot to lose here. New Line is suffering through a horrible string of box office bombs and probably needs the inevitable "Hobbit" bounty more than anyone else. MGM is trying to rebuild its brand and is counting on a Jackson/"Hobbit" formula to be a part of that. Jackson is sitting pretty with the millions he's made off the original series and "King Kong," but it's clear he isn't thrilled with the idea of another filmmaker playing in his universe. Rumors floated over the holiday weekend that "Spider-Man"'s Sam Raimi had been offered "The Hobbit," but that idea seems as ludicrous as other fan favorites such as Steven Spielberg or Quentin Tarantino directing the flick. There is too much money to be made for it to not work out in the end, but the question is whether Jackson will give on his lawsuit or make New Line (and MGM) sweat it out. The whole drama may just turn into one of the biggest industry stories of ... 2007.
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Posted - 11/29/2006 :  21:41:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd really like to see Sean Connery play Thorin Oakenshield, since John Rhys-Davies already established that dwarves are Scottish, but I doubt he'd ever do it. Shame. I can picture it so vividly.

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Carl
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Posted - 01/12/2007 :  18:36:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
New Line boss Bob Shaye never wants to work with Jackson again:

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=39462

12:00 AM, 10-JANUARY-07

Shaye: New Line Blacklists Jackson

In the latest comment in the controversy surrounding a proposed movie based on J.R.R. Tolkien's The Hobbit, New Line head Robert Shaye told SCI FI Wire in no uncertain terms that the studio won't work with Lord of the Rings director Peter Jackson on that film or any other film. Ever. At least not as long as Shaye is in charge.

Shaye's comments marked the first time a New Line executive has commented publicly on the fracas since Jackson announced that he has pulled out of the project and also appears to harden New Line's position against Jackson.

"I do not want to make a movie with somebody who is suing me," Shaye—New Line's chief executive officer—said in an interview on Jan. 5 while promoting The Last Mimzy, a New Line family fantasy that marks his first time in a director's chair since 1990's Book of Love. "It will never happen during my watch."

Jackson had told TheOneRing.net in November that he and partner Fran Walsh were bowing out after New Line, which produced the Rings films and has production rights to The Hobbit, told them the studio was moving ahead with The Hobbit without them. Jackson has said he won't discuss The Hobbit until a lawsuit against New Line over Rings accounting practices is settled.

As far as Shaye is concerned, Jackson is no longer welcome. "There's a kind of arrogance," Shaye said. "Not that I don't think Peter is a good filmmaker and that he hasn't contributed significantly to filmography and made three very good movies. And I don't even expect him to say 'thank you' for having me make it happen and having New Line make it happen. But to think that I, as a functionary in [a] company that has been around for a long time, but is now owned by a very big conglomerate, would care one bit about trying to cheat the guy, ... he's either had very poor counsel or is completely misinformed and myopic to think that I care whether I give him [anything]."

Shaye, who was also an executive producer on the Rings films, added: "He got a quarter of a billion dollars paid to him so far, justifiably, according to contract, completely right, and this guy, who already has received a quarter of a billion dollars, turns around without wanting to have a discussion with us and sues us and refuses to discuss it unless we just give in to his plan. I don't want to work with that guy anymore. Why would I? So the answer is he will never make any movie with New Line Cinema again while I'm still working for the company."

Shaye said that many of the Rings trilogy actors "suddenly, because, I'm guessing, of Peter's complaint," have declined to participate in celebrating New Line's 40th anniversary. "I'm incredibly offended," he said. "I don't care about Peter Jackson anymore. He wants to have another $100 million or $50 million, whatever he's suing us for. He doesn't want to sit down and talk about it. He thinks that we owe him something after we've paid him over a quarter of a billion dollars. ... Cheers, Peter."

New Line's hardened position against Jackson isn't the end of the story, of course. MGM, which owns the distribution rights to The Hobbit, on Nov. 20 told Variety through a spokesman that "the matter of Peter Jackson directing the Hobbit films is far from closed."

In his own online statement, Jackson said that New Line executive Mark Ordesky, who shepherded the Rings trilogy, argued that New Line is dumping Jackson because the studio has a "limited time option" on the film rights, obtained from Saul Zaentz.




Jackson responds:

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117957128.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

On Wednesday, Jackson issued a statement in response to Shaye's outburst, saying, "It is regrettable that Bob has chosen to make (the argument) personal. I have always had the highest respect and affection for Bob and other senior management at New Line and continue to do so."

Jackson addressed the suit by saying: "Contrary to recent comments made by Bob Shaye, we attempted to discuss the issues raised by the 'Fellowship' audit with New Line for over a year, but the studio was and continues to be completely uncooperative. This has compelled us to file a lawsuit to pursue our contractual rights under the law. Nobody likes legal action, but the studio left us with no alternative."

As for the anniversary video, Jackson said, "In light of these circumstances, I didn't think it was appropriate for me to be involved in (the video). I have never discussed this video with any of the cast of the 'LOTR.' The issues that Bob Shaye has with the cast pre-date this lawsuit by many years."

A source close to Jackson called Shaye's remarks "a strategy to try and create favor (for New Line) by saying how much money Peter made. The issue isn't what Peter made, it's why Bob and Mike (Lynne, co-chairman of New Line) don't want to talk about what they made. What is it that they don't want us to see?"




Official response from Jackson and Wingnut Films:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31211

"Our issue with New Line Cinema has only ever been about their refusal to account for financial anomalies that surfaced from a partial audit of The Fellowship of the Ring. Contrary to recent comments made by Bob Shaye, we attempted to discuss the issues raised by the Fellowship audit with New Line for over a year but the studio was and continues to be completely uncooperative. This has compelled us to file a lawsuit to pursue our contractual rights under the law. Nobody likes taking legal action, but the studio left us with no alternative.

For over two years, New Line has denied us the ability to audit The Two Towers and The Return of the King, despite repeated requests. Film auditing is a common and straightforward practice within the industry and we don't understand why New Line Cinema has taken this position.

In light of these circumstances, I didn't think it was appropriate for me to be involved in New Line Cinema's 40th Anniversary video. I have never discussed this video with any of the cast of The Lord of the Rings. The issues that Bob Shaye has with the cast pre-date this law suit by many years.

Fundamentally, our legal action is about holding New Line to it's contractual obligations and promises. It is regrettable that Bob has chosen to make it personal. I have always had the highest respect and affection for Bob and other senior management at New Line and continue to do so."

Edited by - Carl on 01/12/2007 18:37:15
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But are the ever going to make a movie version of "The Silmarillion"? And more importantly, could they possibly make one that anyone could stay awake throughout?



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Hi VoVat, Happy New Year. Yeah, I mean The Silmarillion is a load of mini-stories that are connected by the common thread of the stealing of the Silmaril jewels from the creators of the world, and the continuing battles to recover them, etc. It's not a proper story like Rings, and was of course edited together by J.R.R.'s son Christopher from years of notes (dating back to early 1900). It was after the success of The Hobbit that publishers Unwin requested a sequel-Tolkien was disappointed that people didn't want to hear his more epic, mythological stuff, so ended up combining this stuff with the world of The Hobbit. The forthcoming Children Of Hurin contains parts of the writings published in The Silmarillion.

You could probably make another film out of the Appendices at the end of Rings, although you'd need Charles Gray doing his "It's just a step to the left" Rocky Horror schtick with the pointer, except he'd be saying "It's just phonetically pronouced..." ;)




http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/movies/la-fi-raimi27jan27,0,7640410.story

Sam Raimi considering 'The Hobbit'

In the wake of Peter Jackson's rift with the studio, the "Spidey" director may be next in line to take over fhe franchise.


By Rachel Abramowitz, Times Staff Writer
January 26, 2007

Good-bye Spidey! Hello Bilbo?

In a move that would have ramifications for several major multi-nationals, and millions of fans, "Spider-Man" maestro Sam Raimi has been telling associates, as well as his corporate masters at Sony, that he is thinking of directing "The Hobbit," the prequel to J.R.R. Tolkien's masterwork, "The Lord of the Rings." At least two top-level insiders – who declined to be named -- have heard the words out of the director's mouth.

A year ago, such a swap of franchises would have been unthinkable, given that Peter Jackson co-wrote and directed the Oscar-winning "Rings" trilogy, but that was before the slugfest erupted between the once-rotund director and New Line honcho Bob Shaye.

Jackson is suing the studio over money he says is owed to him from the the "Rings" films, which grossed more than $3 billion at the box office and another $1 billion on DVD. In the last few weeks, Shaye has declared Jackson persona-non-grata at New Line, stating publicly that, "He will never make any movie with New Line Cinema again while I'm still working at the company."

According to a New Line source, the studio isn't just contemplating one "Hobbit" movie, but two. The prequel tells the story of hobbit Bilbo Baggins and how he first discovers the magical but sinister ring, the very object that drives the action in "Lord of the Rings."

Still, while Raimi might be an irresistable replacement for Jackson, his ascension to the directing chair is far from a sure thing. New Line says it doesn't have a deal with the director, and Raimi hasn't met with Shaye or production president Toby Emmerich. More potentially problematic is the fact that MGM owns the distribution rights to the film. An MGM spokeman insists that MGM remains firmly in the Jackson camp: "We support Peter Jackson, and when the dust settles, we believe he is the one who will be making this movie."

A call to Raimi's office was directed to his agent, Richard Lovett, at CAA. The agency did not comment.

For Sony, losing Raimi – who gave "Spider-Man" its distinctive visual theatrics – would be a blow. Studio chief Amy Pascal has said she wants to make six installments of the "Spider-Man" tale. Just this week, the studio announced it was rehiring David Koepp, who wrote the first film, to write "Spider-Man 4."



So long, Spidey?



Director Sam Raimi on the set of "Spider-Man 2."
(Melissa Moseley / Columbia PIctures)




http://www.premiere.com/features/3522/peter-jackson-vs-new-line.html

Peter Jackson vs. New Line
The king of The Lord of the Rings is snarled in a Kong-sized lawsuit with Rings's studio. The Hobbit hangs in the balance. In this excerpt from March 2007's Notes From the Dream Factory, Tom Roston investigates.

by Tom Roston

New Line's option to make The Hobbit expires in 2009; maybe they don't think Peter Jackson can get the movie made in time. The company is also already turning its attention to another mega-budgeted fantasy franchise, the His Dark Materials trilogy. But the studio's motivations became more clear in January, when New Line co-CEO Robert Shaye couldn't refrain from a retort.

"I do not want to make a movie with somebody who is suing me. It will never happen during my watch," he said, and then referred to Jackson as "misinformed" and "myopic."

Whoa. Such a personal outburst (reminiscent of Viacom CEO Sumner Redstone's public berating of Tom Cruise is surprising, because when hundreds of millions of dollars of potential profit are left on the table over a tiff, you need to weigh the impact on your shareholders (New Line is owned by publicly traded Time Warner). And to think it began with the simple request for an audit.

"Bizarre." That's how director James Cameron refers to New Line's reluctance to submit to the audit (Cameron will be shooting his Avatar at Jackson's elaborate filmmaking facility, which Jackson paid for with his Rings money, in Wellington, New Zealand, this summer). Cameron adds that Fox, the company with which he's had a 20-year history, "has always been very transparent financially. It's almost automatic that you do an audit." Admitting that he's speaking out of turn, Cameron intimates that the easiest explanation for New Line's behavior is that it has something to hide. But when you factor in how much money could be made on The Hobbit and another prequel (there's a span of about 60 years between the book and Rings, which I'd imagine Jackson would have a field day fleshing out), we're talking about hundreds of millions of potential profit, if the previous films are any indication.


Peter "Lord of the Rings" Jackson wanted to make The Hobbit, until his tiff with New Line got in the way.

To read the complete article about Peter Jackson's war over the Hobbits, pick up the March issue of Premiere magazine, on sale now.








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Los Angeles Times - A midlife crisis at New Line.

Eager to move ahead with "The Hobbit," New Line has quietly been trying to mend fences with "Rings" filmmaker Peter Jackson, who has sued the company over his share of profits from the first "Rings" films. When asked if it was true that company insiders had been in talks with Jackson's reps, Shaye replied, "Yes, that's a fair statement. Notwithstanding our personal quarrels, I really respect and admire Peter and would love for him to be creatively involved in some way in 'The Hobbit.' "

Moving ahead with "The Hobbit" would tie in to another pivotal New Line issue: In an era when Hollywood is deluged with equity money, will Shaye and Lynne make a run at buying back New Line from Time Warner? Shaye's response was worthy of a U.N. diplomat: "We have not expressed that point of view publicly. And if we ever do, [Time Warner chiefs] Dick Parsons and Jeff Bewkes would be the first to know about it."

A lot is riding on whether New Line can reinvigorate itself. It's often the company on the skids that is most willing to take the kind of daring risk that can turn everything around. Staking the company's future on "Lord of the Rings" was one of the great long-shot gambles in Hollywood history. The real question about New Line is: Can lightning strike twice?




http://www.stuff.co.nz/4160162a1860.htmlStuff.co.nz - Hobbit studio sweet-talks Jackson.

British actor Sir Ian McKellen, who played the wizard Gandalf in the trilogy, is in Wellington to perform with the Royal Shakespeare Company.

At a news conference on Thursday, he said there was no doubt that a rumoured reprisal of his Gandalf role in a film version of The Hobbit would be discussed with Jackson and Walsh.

Jackson's spokesman said last night: "Peter and Fran have always wanted to do The Hobbit but whether that happens is yet to be decided."

Edited by - Carl on 08/10/2007 17:19:14
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Posted - 08/11/2007 :  12:20:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Funny to see Raimi there, considering both filmmakers' previous works.

It would be great if he does the movie, I'm tired to see him wasting his talent on those crappy spiderman films.


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Posted - 08/11/2007 :  12:45:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well now he is wasting it on a Halloween remake, begging the question, 'does he really have that much talent to waste?'


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Posted - 08/11/2007 :  13:20:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Eh?! That's Rob Zombie, Homers!!

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Posted - 08/11/2007 :  13:36:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry getting confused. I meant the crappy looking vampire film that you also linked to with the Halloween one.


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Posted - 08/12/2007 :  23:10:17  Show Profile  Visit Jefrey's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm flabbergasted that this Shaye guy is still working for New Line. As soon as he said he'd never work with Peter Jackson again while he's in charge, the board should have fired him.

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Posted - 08/13/2007 :  12:22:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ha, "flabbergasted".


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Posted - 08/13/2007 :  13:46:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
IESB.net.

Raimi and Jackson on The Hobbit!

Written by Stephanie Sanchez

Friday, 10 August 2007

We’ve got a follow up to our story “Sam Raimi Possibly Directing
Clash of the Titans” and it’s a doozie!

All indications from our inside sources are saying that while Raimi was seriously considering the Titans offer, he has a much bigger fish to fry and has possibly chosen to go in the direction of Middle Earth instead.

While we are being told that negotiations are still underway for the prequel and final deals won’t be reached immediately, Raimi is leaning towards directing The Hobbit as his next big project.

Where does this leave the legendary Peter Jackson?

Although New Line’s Bob Shaye and Jackson had a much publicized dispute over “the green,” the LA Times recently spoke with Shaye and he had this to say,

Eager to move ahead with "The Hobbit," New Line has quietly been trying to mend fences with "Rings" filmmaker Peter Jackson, who has sued the company over his share of profits from the first "Rings" films. When asked if it was true that company insiders had been in talks with Jackson's reps, Shaye replied, "Yes, that's a fair statement. Notwithstanding our personal quarrels, I really respect and admire Peter and would love for him to be creatively involved in some way in 'The Hobbit.'"

All sources indicate that although Jackson won’t be back to direct, our source is telling us that Raimi is looking to helm The Hobbit with Peter Jackson attached to produce. Raimi has said in the past that he would not take on the project without Jackson’s blessing. Well, looks like he may have it!

Stay tuned to the IESB for further updates!
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Posted - 08/13/2007 :  14:00:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They're remaking Clash of the Titans? Now that could be good.


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Posted - 08/13/2007 :  15:26:00  Show Profile  Visit Jefrey's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

They're remaking Clash of the Titans? Now that could be good.


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Yah, that's the type of project Raimi should be doing.

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Posted - 08/13/2007 :  16:48:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Peter Jackson in Entourage.
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Posted - 08/13/2007 :  16:57:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Peter Jackson sucks, he's the only director to make me fall asleep through all of his films though, that's some kind of accomplishment.

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Posted - 08/13/2007 :  17:01:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There's the door, Rico! ;)

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Posted - 08/14/2007 :  04:54:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah boooo! Go see if you can stir things up in the 911 thread instead.

EDIT: Oh you already did and got it locked. Nice one Ric'ardon, nice one ; )


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Posted - 08/14/2007 :  16:20:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jefrey

quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

They're remaking Clash of the Titans? Now that could be good.


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Yah, that's the type of project Raimi should be doing.

"Release the Kraken!"

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They recently released a comic book sequel to clash of the titans, suspossedly with Ray Harryhausen's input, called Wrath of the Titans!

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Posted - 08/14/2007 :  16:22:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And I still think Sean Connery is the perfect choice to play Thorin Oakenshield, King Under the Mountain.

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Posted - 08/15/2007 :  12:55:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

Yeah boooo! Go see if you can stir things up in the 911 thread instead.

EDIT: Oh you already did and got it locked. Nice one Ric'ardon, nice one ; )


Hahaha!!

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Posted - 08/17/2007 :  10:27:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I too wish that New Line would just suck it up and pay Jackson what he says he deserves. It seems like they'd get their money back when they released an epic, Jackson-directed version of "the Hobbit" instead of turning it over to Sam Raimi. Although I commend Raimi's incredible drive in spending the past five years directing the Spider-Man movies almost back-to-back I don't know that he has what it takes to do the Hobbit justice.



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