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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *
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 Posted - 09/07/2006 : 09:18:42
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What is the fantastic and fascinating story behind the cover of one of the least favorite Franck Black albums of all time?
In the latest reedition of the album (around 2002) why does one of the faces look in the direction of the main big face. Why have they added a full-point in the "o" of the of? Why is RAY written bigger? Why have they changed the color, removing the violet shades around the rays? Overall why is the cover much better than the original one?
Why do we care about such thing?
Who has the right to change the cover of an album and what is the official justification for that?
A cover, why?
WHY
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2006 : 09:20:01
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| George Lucas wanted to give it a little more zing. |
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Suicide_Samurai
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
431 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2006 : 09:42:34
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| Don't forget the post-2002 hidden track. |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2006 : 10:03:12
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Originally posted by darwin
George Lucas wanted to give it a little more zing.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2006 : 10:30:35
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| Plus Lyle Workman now clearly plays first. |
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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *
1079 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2006 : 10:37:41
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which hidden track is it?
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2006 : 11:00:44
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Originally posted by Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
which hidden track is it?
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2006 : 16:34:59
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quote:
Originally posted by Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
one of the least favorite Franck Black albums of all time?
Joey, I worry about you.
I’m the only one who can say that this light is mine
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Levitated
= Cult of Ray =
Chile
652 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2006 : 17:48:29
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| hehe COR is my fav album! was the song cult of ray ever performed live? |
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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1462 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2006 : 18:38:59
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excellent questions joey! here's some pic's to help with the discussion. i believe jean did the artwork for the original.
 "I joined the Cult of Frank/ cause I'm a real go-getter!" |
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =
Canada
3581 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2006 : 19:00:48
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Weird... I've never seen that second one before.
he's back jack smoking crack find him if you want to get found
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
5305 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2006 : 19:14:58
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| sometimes the more colors you have, the less cost. but maybe it's just to separate the originals from the newer ones. |
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ruzom
= Cult of Ray =
France
267 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2006 : 19:24:13
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Originally posted by Levitated
hehe COR is my fav album! was the song cult of ray ever performed live?
I think it was, but can't tell you exactly when. |
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danjersey
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
2792 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2006 : 21:16:40
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the first looked like album art
the second it looked like wallpaper
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2006 : 21:20:32
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Originally posted by ruzom
quote:
Originally posted by Levitated
hehe COR is my fav album! was the song cult of ray ever performed live?
I think it was, but can't tell you exactly when.
it was played at McCabes guitar shop, solo, in 1996 |
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ruzom
= Cult of Ray =
France
267 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2006 : 23:48:31
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| That's right! Thanks Floop, I knew that I had already heard it... |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1594 Posts |
Posted - 09/08/2006 : 01:56:04
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Now it seems so obvious, but when I had to buy a new copy I couldn't quite put my finger on it, I didn't have the original anymore.
I like everything about the original better, the stars, the extra colours, the darker blue, the non-Star-Trek-font, but the eye is a nice touch. |
Edited by - hammerhands on 09/08/2006 01:57:20 |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 09/08/2006 : 05:00:51
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What's strange is, I think I may have seen the second cover before, but I never registered with me-I actually wasn't aware there was a different version!
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =
Canada
3581 Posts |
Posted - 09/08/2006 : 06:18:02
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Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
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Originally posted by speedy_m
Weird... I've never seen that second one before.
he's back jack smoking crack find him if you want to get found
<sniff>
http://www.frankblack.net/songs/Default.asp?menu=album&mode=release-details&releaseID=700
 "Now you're officially my woman. Kudos. I can't say I don't envy you."
Hey! There's a discopedia now?!?
he's back jack smoking crack find him if you want to get found
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 09/08/2006 : 06:23:55
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I believe we had this discussion years ago
my idea is that the first and the second are different
because the rec. companies are different. The second is cleary less polished
so I think that's Jean's original artwork which was polished at cost of American Recordings.
So when the record was licensed to another record componay (spinart/cooking vinyl I believe) they didn't want to pay American Recordings for the polishing so they went with the original of Jean (which was done with PaintBrush or CorrelDraw or something)
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
777 Posts |
Posted - 09/08/2006 : 08:48:20
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Or maybe Rick Rubin sold the computers to pay the bill.
That Jean's original draft is much funnier in a cheap kind of way, especially with that absurd eye.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 09/08/2006 : 09:56:26
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Originally posted by Grotesque
That Jean's original draft is much funnier in a cheap kind of way, especially with that absurd eye.
That's the rehash, though, isn't it?!
Aren't those faces supposed to be charicatures of Ray Bradbury?!
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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1594 Posts |
Posted - 09/08/2006 : 12:31:17
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2564 Posts |
Posted - 09/08/2006 : 14:07:33
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Is the second the only one available now then? It's the one that I've got since I only got it last year, maybe even this year.
I think I like it better than the first since it's got the dodgy eye and that.
"The arc of triumph" |
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lumpy
- FB Fan -
127 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2006 : 23:14:10
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quote:
Originally posted by fumanbru
excellent questions joey! here's some pic's to help with the discussion. i believe jean did the artwork for the original.
"I joined the Cult of Frank/ cause I'm a real go-getter!"
i'm also just a bit confused. is the new one the top or bottom? |
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cassandra is
> Teenager of the Year <
France
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
2463 Posts |
Posted - 09/12/2006 : 02:42:07
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danny ray
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/12/2006 : 07:42:29
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am i the only one that hadn't noticed a difference?! Actually, while we're on the subject, who or what IS the cult of ray? Someone mentioned ray bradbury, is that right?
Oh, and hi, i'm new. |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 09/12/2006 : 07:50:34
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Yep, Frank coined the name Cult Of Ray for Bradbury's following! And I don't recall noticing the difference either, and yet I believe I have seen the redux cover before, and just didn't cop it for some reason. And hi danny!
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danny ray
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
2 Posts |
Posted - 09/12/2006 : 08:13:47
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oh i seeeeee! its bugged me for years, i just never been here til recently. And what a lovely place it be.  |
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Chris Fabulous
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Posted - 09/26/2006 : 21:08:30
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Interesting, the different versions. Still, I think they both look crummy.
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The CULT OF RAY cover mystery
