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ProverbialCereal
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 Posted - 08/30/2006 : 18:52:40
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Does anyone find some of the background vocals on Frank's latest a bit lacking?
There are some good BGVs: Johnny Barleycorn, It's Just Not Your Moment. But sometimes it sounds slightly off pitch, or like they hired a bum with a "Will sing BGVs for food" sign to sing a line in one take.
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"My Terrible Ways" chorus (at 1:15)
"Golden Shore" (at 2:20 / sounds off key)
"I'm Not Dead (I'm in Pittsburgh) (3:06 / kind of sloppy)
I don't mean to insult anyone. It's my opinion, that I don't think some of the background vox mesh with Frank's voice or match the rest of the production style. Seems like some could be a little more polished since Frank is back to multitracking. Or why not Frank do some of the BGV?
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Broken Face
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USA
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Posted - 08/30/2006 : 19:02:00
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I think "Golden Shore" sounds great - i don't mind a little sloppy. As for "I'm Not Dead..." i sort of hear the influence of the co-writer, Reid Paley, on the BGVs - not that he was present, but i hear that style of vocals - once again, i don't think that they take away. I agree that "It's Just Not Your Moment" has some great harmonies (courtesy Violet). The 'gang' BGVs on "Johnny Barelycorn" remidns me of a video i saw once of the Band and Van Morrison singing the chorus to "Comfortably Numb" during a Roger Waters recreation of "The Wall" record in Berlin after the Berlin Wall fell. Grizzled and raw BGVs. I didn't really dig it on "Comfortably Numb," but i dig it for "Barelycorn."
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ProverbialCereal
- FB TabMaster -
USA
2953 Posts |
Posted - 08/30/2006 : 19:11:48
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I see what you are saying. And certainly sloppy has it's place in music. But I don't think the songs sound "raw enough" in other aspects to have those kind of background vocals.
And you can still sound rough/"bad" as a singer and sing in key (Tom Waits). Some of the BGV singers sound sharp or flat sometimes. Or maybe I'm imagining this... |
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-
USA
5155 Posts |
Posted - 08/30/2006 : 19:16:29
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Good points, sir. However, i think that we are thinking about music in a certain style - indie rock, or college rock, or alternative rock, or whatever you choose to call it - in the folk-y world, BGVs are a totally different beast. Think of The Band (who i actually think FMRM most sounds like in parts) and their BGVs, or Dylan in the 60s/70s, and the BGVs are certainly not as polished as those other bands used.
-Brian - http://bvsrant.blogspot.com |
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ScottP
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 08/30/2006 : 20:12:52
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Yeah, I think the backups in this latest matl is more of an implied effect. It's definately more human sounding, and that's what I think they were going for here. You listen to this kind of stuff and say, "Those are people making music".
Actually, I think IJNYM is probably the closest FMRM comes to a perfect backup. And, doesn't Frank do some of his own backups somewhere, or maybe some doubles?
Somebody rub the magic Tiven lamp. |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 08/31/2006 : 04:30:18
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Originally posted by Broken Face
The 'gang' BGVs on "Johnny Barelycorn" remidns me of a video i saw once of the Band and Van Morrison singing the chorus to "Comfortably Numb" during a Roger Waters recreation of "The Wall" record in Berlin after the Berlin Wall fell. Grizzled and raw BGVs. I didn't really dig it on "Comfortably Numb," but i dig it for "Barelycorn."
That-or a rerecorded version?-appears in Martin Scorsese's The Departed. It can be heard in the trailer:
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/thedeparted/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407887/soundtrack
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mr.biscuitdoughhead
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1729 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2006 : 10:21:46
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The background vocals on Golden Shore remind me of that Ren and Stimpy song. The Canadian Lumberjack one (is that what it's called?). I used to know all the lyrics to that. 
[edit]Oh yeah, I forgot to say that the bg vocals sound alright. But I don't listen to intently to them. Better than some of the Catholics vocals. 
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Edited by - mr.biscuitdoughhead on 09/02/2006 12:27:29 |
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
5305 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2006 : 15:40:47
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| to me the back up vocals sound good.... I really don't have any pitch but nothing really jumped out at me. i do think it's really cool that violet was singing back up. |
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
2463 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2006 : 16:11:11
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| The LA song, production wise, sound more atmospheric and polished, I think. IJNYM sounds brilliant. |
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theonecontender
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
565 Posts |
Posted - 09/04/2006 : 08:57:39
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I think they sound killer.. and this completes my tour of posting on the forum. Yeah!
Yours forever, 1c |
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