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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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 Posted - 08/26/2006 : 03:49:04
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Anybody else heard this?
I listened to it two times now and I like it. It's pretty dark and the sound is very reminiscent of that of 'Love and Theft' although there isn't that much melody on it. Working Man Blues #2 is great, it's a simple melody but it works. The lyrics on the record are great too, heard something among the lines of 'Looking for Alicia Keys...' which I think is very funny. Bob has done it, once again
any thoughts?
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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 08/26/2006 : 04:03:55
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Hey, thanks Jop, I didn't even know it was out. I'll most certainly buy it soon.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2006 : 12:25:57
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They were playing a Dylan song I didn't recognise in HMV the other day, I wondered if it was a new song off this. It was review in yesterday's Guardian:
http://arts.guardian.co.uk/filmandmusic/story/0,,1857199,00.html
Bob Dylan, Modern Times
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Alexis Petridis
Friday August 25, 2006
The Guardian
With just hours to go until release, the competition to see who can slather Bob Dylan's 32nd studio album with the most deranged praise known to man is hotting up. The Americans have started strongly. US magazine Blender has ranked Modern Times alongside the work not merely of jazz giant Sonny Rollins, but of Matisse and Yeats, and has deployed the classic Dylan obsessive's strategy of lavishing superlatives on what appears to be an unremarkable lyric. "Wonderful lines galore," it enthused. "Try, 'I got the pork chops, she got the pie.'" Thus is Dylan's place among the deities of modern letters further assured.
Meanwhile, Britain's best hope for a medal may lie with Professor Christopher Ricks, who famously compared the Dylan lyric "All the tired horses in the sun/ How am I supposed to get any riding done?" to Keats, Tennyson, Marlowe, Shakespeare and Browning. Or perhaps with the Sunday Times arts writer who once informed us that in any list of the greatest albums ever Dylan's entire oeuvre would occupy the top 42 places. Evidently, pipsqueaks such as the Beatles or Marvin Gaye struggled in vain to match the musical heights attained by Down in the Groove or Dylan and the Dead.
What is it about him that makes otherwise intelligent men abandon all sense of rationality, and write stuff like the last Guardian review of Dylan live, which started with the critic announcing he was there to "touch the hem", then got progressively less objective? None of Dylan's peers, their influence on music every bit as tumultuous and far-reaching, can provoke that kind of effect: eyes are narrowed when Paul McCartney releases an album or the Stones tour, and guffaws are barely stifled when Lou Reed brings his t'ai chi master on stage. Dylan is held to be "still doing it for the music", but what are the rest of them doing it for? The money? A desperate attempt to bolster their meagre level of fame?
Certainly, Dylan has enjoyed an artistic renaissance, in that he published a fantastic autobiography and stopped releasing records that made you want to rip your own head off with embarrassment - but that alone isn't enough to explain the mania that greets his every action. Perhaps it is linked to his 1997 brush with pericarditis and intimations of mortality; praise him unequivocally now, while he can still read it.
Either way, it's hard to hear Modern Times' music over the inevitable standing ovation and the thuds of middle-aged critics swooning in awe. When you do, you find something not unlike its predecessor, Love and Theft. It again eschews the straightforward rock approach and sonic embellishments that producer Daniel Lanois brought to 1997's Time Out of Mind in favour of muted rockabilly shuffles and polite, country-inflected pre-rock'n'roll pop. Here are the kind of jazzy songs that would count as mild-mannered crooning if they were performed by Bing Crosby, but which invariably take on a slightly unsettling air when subjected to Dylan's catarrhal death rattle.
Some of these are great. You don't need to believe that Dylan's artistic renaissance is the most important event in western culture since the actual Renaissance to be beguiled by the descending riff of Spirit on the Water, or Nettie Moore's insistent pulse. Like The Friday Night Project's studio audience, Dylan dingbats tend to bust a gut over things that leave everyone else stony-faced: Love and Theft apparently caused uncontrollable mirth by featuring not only the line "Freddie or not, here I come", but also - and if you don't want to die laughing, look away now - "I'm no pig without a wig". Here, though, Thunder on the Mountains is genuinely funny. "I was thinking about Alicia Keys," he sings huskily, "I couldn't help from crying" - a sentiment with which anyone who has experienced the R&B singer's sanctimonious interviews and rotten poetry ("Hello morning/ Now I see you/ 'Cause I am awake") can heartily concur.
There are two lengthy epics. Workingman's Blues 2 has an elegiac, dying-of-the-light quality, bolstered by the singers' colloidal croak, and vaguely political lyrics: "The buying power of the proletariat's gone down." The closing Ain't Talkin' is a chilling low growl, full of muttered imprecations and intimations of doom. Equally, there are longueurs, songs that outstay their welcome or sound like filler, moments where you find your attention drifting elsewhere - frequently to the question of where all that crap about Matisse and Yeats fits with this largely pleasant and unassuming record.
Modern Times is not one of those infrequent, unequivocally fantastic Dylan albums that allow a non-believer to grasp what the fuss is about, or at least what the fuss was originally rooted in. But that scarcely seems to matter: said fuss seems set to continue until Modern Times and, indeed, modern times are merely a distant memory.
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 08/26/2006 : 13:58:38
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I've only just started my Dylan collection. I bought B on B earlier this year and Highway 61 last week. Pretty good stuff.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6289 Posts |
Posted - 08/28/2006 : 02:32:12
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those records are his best
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HeywoodJablome
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 08/28/2006 : 07:16:15
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I got a lot of his stuff but for some reason never got Hwy 61 till a few weeks back. It's worth every bit of the hype in my opinion. Amazing songs. B on B though I can't really see it, it's got it's moments but it loses me somewhere along the way, his harp gets a little obnoxious on some of the tunes. I picked up Shot of Love recently from his "I found the lord" days and it's actually pretty damn solid. I haven't heard any of his shit beyond like '85 so I still got some discovering to do.
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The Marsist
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
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Posted - 08/28/2006 : 10:52:18
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got the new one yesterday.its really fuckin good.picks up exactly where love and theft left of. its got the whole 40's swingtime jazz thing goin on. thunder on the mountain is truly awesome although the alcia keyes name drops a bit puzzeling but then again it wouldnt be dylan with out the puzzelment.
good stuff all together
Art is the child of Nature; yes, her darling child, in whom we trace the features of the mother's face, her aspect and her attitude.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6289 Posts |
Posted - 08/28/2006 : 13:29:56
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I was thinkin' 'bout Alicia Keys, couldn't keep from crying
When she was born in Hell's Kitchen, I was living down the line
I'm wondering where in the world Alicia Keys could be
I been looking for her even clear through Tennessee
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The Marsist
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
730 Posts |
Posted - 08/29/2006 : 11:26:32
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my favourite line from the whole album has to be
"Gonna raise me an army some tough son's of bitchs."
delivered like the truly great dylan of old
Art is the child of Nature; yes, her darling child, in whom we trace the features of the mother's face, her aspect and her attitude.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6289 Posts |
Posted - 08/29/2006 : 15:16:34
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''Well, the world of research has gone berserk. Too much paperwork''
that's my one of my fave
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 08/30/2006 : 20:04:50
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I've got the new Dylan on right now, and I just stumbled across this thread. This album's great -- after just a half-dozen listens, I know I'll always love it. Dylan was my first love, before Frank, and his stuff always clicks with me much more quickly. His last three albums have been wonderful. There were so many years where it was hard to like anything he did, and then he got old and made these old-Bob albums that just melt your heart. His voice has such an amazing quality now. Even my wife, who always hated his voice, likes it now.
"They say whiskey'll kill ya, but I don't think it will." -- that's from my fave song on Modern Times, called Nettie Moore.
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MissMaceo
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 09/03/2006 : 03:55:31
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GREAT album, a nice fun listen, funny and sharp and wordy........
good stuff
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HeywoodJablome
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 09/03/2006 : 07:17:05
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I just saw the "No Direction Home" docu thing last night which was pretty darn good. Nice to see Dylan opening up a little in his twilight years. Some of those questions he was subjected to at the press conferences were hilarious, it's no wonder he was so cagey.
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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 09/03/2006 : 07:57:38
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Nice album. At least as good as his two previous ones, imo.
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jorgemac
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Posted - 09/03/2006 : 15:13:03
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Saw the Dylan Commercial for the first time on Friday and thought it was great. Ordered the album online that night and worked out the commercial riff on one of my electrics. Has anyone tabbed any of the songs yet?
I can tell I'll want to play as many of his new poems as I can figure out. Any help would be appreciated.
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moksha23x
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Posted - 09/03/2006 : 16:27:58
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"Bob Dylan is quite a songwriter, and a great singer and musician. I won't bother with comparing myself to him, but I will say that I heard his records at a very young age and I still listen to all his records."
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mikaelp75
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Posted - 09/03/2006 : 16:50:24
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quote:
Originally posted by jorgemac
Saw the Dylan Commercial for the first time on Friday and thought it was great. Ordered the album online that night and worked out the commercial riff on one of my electrics. Has anyone tabbed any of the songs yet?
I can tell I'll want to play as many of his new poems as I can figure out. Any help would be appreciated.
Jorgemac - gotta hit the beachs
I guitared and ukuleled along to the record the other day and it's obvious that most of it's written on the piano rather than guitar since it's all Bb, Eb etc. I think I first read in Shelton's No Direction Home bio that the young Dylan only played the black piano keys for years! At the time I thought he stopped doing that before leaving Minnesota but his first piano recording (Black Crow Blues) is like that, and later most of New Morning. Glad to hear not all things have changed. |
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-
USA
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Posted - 09/05/2006 : 07:29:54
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I just got it in my mailbox this morning. I'm on "Nettie Moore" and i can see this will share space with Neko Case as my "morning at work with coffee" record. Previous records include Liz Janes & Create(!)'s self-titled record, as well as Feist's Let It Die and Calexico/Iron & Wine's In The Reins.
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moksha23x
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 09/05/2006 : 12:09:13
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Originally posted by Broken Face
I'm on "Nettie Moore"
*****You're post is Literally ON "Nettie Moore"*****
Nettie Moore
by Bob Dylan
Lost John's sittin' on a railroad track
Something's out of whack
Blues this morning falling down like hail
Gonna leave a greasy trail
Gonna travel the world is what I'm gonna do
Then come back and see you.
All I ever do is struggle and strive.
If I don't do anybody any harm, I might make it back home alive.
I'm the oldest son of a crazy man,
I'm in a cowboy band
Got a pile of sins to pay for and I ain't got time to hide
I'd walk through a blazing fire, baby, if I knew you was on the other side
Oh, I miss you, Nettie Moore
And my happiness is o'r
Winter's gone, the river's on the rise
I loved you then, and ever shall
But there's no one left here to tell
The world has gone black before my eyes
Well, the world of research has gone berserk
Too much paperwork
Albert's in the graveyard, Frankie's raising hell
I'm beginning to believe what the scriptures tell
I've gone where the Southern crosses The Yellow Dog
Get away from all these demagogues
And these bad luck women stick like glue
It's either one or the other or neither of the two
She says, "Look out, daddy, don't want you to tear your pants
You could get wrecked in this dance."
They say whisky'll kill you, but I don't think it will
I'm ridin' with you to the top of the hill
Oh, I miss you, Nettie Moore
And my happiness is o'r
Winter's gone, the river's on the rise
I loved you then, and ever shall
But there's no one left here to tell
The world has gone black before my eyes
Don't know why my baby never looked so good before
Don't have to wonder no more
She been cooking all day, it gonna take me all night
I can't eat all that stuff in a single bite
The judge's coming in, everybody rise
Lift up your eyes
You can do what you please, you don't need my advice
'Fore you call me any dirty names, you better think twice
Getting light outside, the temperature dropped
I think the rain has stopped
I'm gonna make you come to grips with fate
When I'm through with you, you'll learn to keep your business straight
Oh, I miss you, Nettie Moore
And my happiness is o'r
Winter's gone, the river's on the rise
I loved you then, and ever shall
But there's no one left here to tell
The world has gone black before my eyes
The bright spark of the steady lights
Has dimmed my sights
When you're around me all my grief gives 'way
A life time with you is like some heavenly day
Everything I've ever known to be right has been proven wrong
I'll be drifting along
The woman I'm loving she rules my heart
No knife could ever cut our love apart.
Today I'll stand in faith and raise
The voice of praise
The sun is strong, I'm standing in the light
I wish to God that it were night
Oh, I miss you, Nettie Moore
And my happiness is o'r
Winter's gone, the river's on the rise
I loved you then, and ever shall
But there's no one here left to tell
The world has gone black before my eyes
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2006 : 17:28:13
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Best song on this album. I love the way he says "Moore." It rhymes with brewer. And I love his voice so much on this album. He's sung himself nearly to death, and his voice has a fascinating quality. I wonder what Frank will sound like when he sings for years and year.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6289 Posts |
Posted - 09/06/2006 : 12:43:15
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I agree, by far the greatest song on 'Modern Times'
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Broken Face
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USA
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Posted - 09/06/2006 : 13:48:00
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After 3 listens, my favorite tracks are "Spirit on the Water" and "Beyond the Horizon" - for "Horizon" i love that little riff that leads in the song, and for "Spirit," i am enamored with the vocal melody. A great record, dare i say.
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ScottP
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 09/06/2006 : 17:20:49
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6289 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2006 : 06:35:14
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man!
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-
USA
5157 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2006 : 06:39:32
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On a similar topic, has anyone heard Dylan's XM Radio show? I downloaded some episodes and i was thoroughly impressed. Who'd think he owns LL Cool J and Blur records?
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 09/08/2006 : 14:16:50
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Do you have to have XM Radio to listen to his show? Or is there some sort of Internet download?
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 09/10/2006 : 09:16:47
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Watching Dylan in Pat Garrett And Billy The Kid the other night, it was amazing to think what he had achieved even back then, and that he's actually No.1 now!
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