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bflat
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United Kingdom
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 Posted - 08/22/2006 : 16:26:18
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After his death Courtney stopped refering to the Rome overdose as an
'accident', which Kurt had called it, and started to refer to it as a
'suicide attempt'. It was an attempted murder that's what it was.
The greenhouse was not 'barricaded', the lock was a simple twist and
pull affair that anyone could set to lock behind them on their way out.
There was an absence of fingerprints on the gun. Do you suppose after
he had blew his own brains out he wiped the gun clean?
The private investigator Courtney hired believes she did it:
We left the Carnation property and headed back to the Lake Washington
house. During the drive back Courtney told Kat and I that she was going to make a rubber hand from a cast she'd made of Kurt's hand. She said she was going to use it to slap people in the face and say, "There! That's from Kurt!"
I mentioned I'd worked with hand casts and told her fingerprints could
even be duplicated using a silicon material to fill the mold. Courtney
appeared somewhat discouraged, as if something just went wrong.'
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Courtney called the electrical contractors on Wednesday, April 6th, the day Kurt died, and instructed them to begin work on the lights and
motion detector on the greenhouse! Did she know Kurt was inside? Was
she trying to get the body discovered?
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THE KURT COBAIN MURDER INVESTIGATION
The events surrounding the death of Kurt Cobain are filled with lies, contradictions in logic, and countless inconsistencies.
Here's just some of... WHAT YOU WERE NEVER TOLD:
COURTNEY LOVE WAS FACING A DIVORCE
Kurt was in the process of leaving Seattle and his wife Courtney, when he was found dead. Courtney knew Kurt wanted out of the marriage. Just weeks prior to his death, she asked one of her attorneys to get the "meanest, most vicious divorce lawyer" she could find.
SOMEONE WAS USING KURT'S CREDIT CARD
One of Kurt's credit cards was missing when his body was discovered. Someone was attempting to use the missing credit card after Cobain died, but the attempts stopped when his body was discovered.
COBAIN WAS IN FEAR OF HIS LIFE
The shotgun found at the scene was purchased BEFORE Cobain left for rehab in Los Angeles, NOT AFTER he fled the rehab as reported by misinformed media sources.
The shotgun was fully loaded with three shells. It was purchased and loaded for protection, not suicide. The police claim there were no legible fingerprints on this shotgun! The truth is, the shotgun wasn't even checked for fingerprints until May 6th, nearly one month after Cobain's body was found.
THERE WAS NO "SUICIDE" NOTE!!
The note found at the scene by the police was immediately labeled as a "suicide note." The police report states it was "apparently written by Cobain to his wife and daughter, explaining why he had killed himself."
But this note was not addressed to Kurt's wife and daughter and it says nothing about "killing himself!" This note was clearly written to Cobain's fans telling them he was quitting the music business. There was only a short footnote to Courtney and Frances and the handwriting contained in those lines has been questioned by several handwriting experts.
COURTNEY HAD ANOTHER NOTE SHE KEPT IN SECRET!
Courtney was in possession of a second note after Kurt's body was found! SHE DIDN'T TELL ANYONE about this second note until several months later when information about it slipped out during an interview with Rolling Stone Magazine.
The second note, the one that Courtney kept in secret, clearly defines the first note which was found at the scene of Cobain's death. The "second note" from Kurt plainly states he was leaving Courtney and he was leaving Seattle. He was NOT leaving the planet!
KURT COBAIN WAS INJECTED WITH 3 TIMES A LETHAL DOSE OF HEROIN!!
Cobain's heroin, (morphine), blood level was 1.52 mgs per liter. This would require a minimum injection of 225 mgs of heroin, three times a lethal dose, even for a hardcore heroin addict! The drug Diazepam, was also found in Cobain's blood system.
THE OBVIOUS QUESTIONS:
1. If Cobain injected himself with a deliberate heroin overdose, why would he ALSO shoot himself in the head with a shotgun, leaving his baby daughter - the love of his life - with horrific visual images to remember him by? Why not just "go to sleep" on the overdose and never wake up?
2. IF Cobain injected three times a lethal dose of heroin, COULD he then pick up a shotgun and shoot himself? Wouldn't he have been immediately incapacitated?
Based on the heroin, (morphine), blood levels found in Cobain's body, preliminary research indicates Kurt Cobain would have been immediately incapacitated. He could not have picked
up that shotgun. He could not have pulled that trigger!
IN ADDITION...
Cobain was not barricaded inside the room as reported by misinformed media sources.
The stool which was supposedly wedged" against the door was actually just sitting in front of the two unlocked doors that only led out to a balcony.
Cobain did not leave his Driver’s License out for identification as reported by the media.
The first police officer on the scene found Cobain's closed wallet, opened it to remove Kurt's driver's license, and displayed it in order to take a photograph.
THE FACT IS...
The police and the Medical Examiner have no forensic evidence that proves Cobain's death was a suicide. On the other hand, there's a substantial amount of evidence for murder.
The official verdict of "suicide" was simply a rush to judgement which eventually painted the authorities into a corner as reports of so-called "copy-cat" suicides began making the news.
As you examine this case carefully, you're going to discover there's much more to the events surrounding Cobain's death than what you've been told.
For additional information, please refer to:
www.cobaincase.com
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Posted - 08/22/2006 : 17:00:10
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despite the fact that I rather had Kurt Kobain on this planet to make some more music
his death was sad. If he was murdered or not, he clearly wasn't happy. His life wasn't that good to him.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 08/22/2006 : 17:22:05
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I thought you'd seen some new news on this.
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 08/22/2006 : 23:01:58
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all i know is i listen to more "asking for it" and the foo fighters' first album than i do the entire nirvana catalog. die young stay pretty.
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bflat
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 08/23/2006 : 15:34:37
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Originally posted by billgoodman
he clearly wasn't happy. His life wasn't that good to him.
That's what I heard too, fact is it was really Courtney Love and only Courtney Love who popularised the myth that he was 'suicidal' by feeding the press with quotes that Kurt was depressed, suicidal, unhappy etc. Think about it, when all you can find out about the case is an article in a magazine then you tend to read the article like the gospel, so if it says 'Kurt was suicidal' and his ex wife says that then you tend to believe it. Fact is, people who saw him at the time said he looked 'Fuckin' Great!'. Courtney wants people to think he was suicidal and the result is, after a few 'exclusive' interviews, the WHOLE WORLD accepts he was suicidal as if it was passed down on stone tablets, TRY IT, ASK ANYBODY!, but he wasn't depressed at all! |
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =
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3581 Posts |
Posted - 08/23/2006 : 15:42:28
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I think she also killed Paul McCartney in the 60s.
he's back jack smoking crack find him if you want to get found
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 08/23/2006 : 15:51:40
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Murdered or not, anyone who goes out with a car wreck like her is asking for whatever he gets.
BLT's Heroes Series #2
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-
France
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Posted - 08/23/2006 : 15:54:09
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quote:
Originally posted by speedy_m
I think she also killed Paul McCartney in the 60s.
And JFK just before.
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 08/23/2006 : 16:15:30
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and the mastermind behind the 9/11 conspiracy? you guessed it
FAST_MAN RAIDER_MAN - June 19th |
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ScottP
= Cult of Ray =
USA
618 Posts |
Posted - 08/23/2006 : 16:51:02
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| We were all pretty bummed out when we heard. I was writing with a guy named Tony Bortko from the Seattle bands TKO and The Life when the news hit. Tony was a heroin user too. He knew Kurt before Nirvana hit and said that, even then, Kurt was pretty bad into heroin. He also wasn't surprised at all when he heard that Kurt had killed himself. Tony was convinced that Kurt was clinically depressed already and, coupled with a heroin habit, didn't seem too surprised by the news. Dark days. |
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El Loco
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Posted - 08/24/2006 : 09:03:37
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 08/24/2006 : 10:32:18
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Originally posted by BLT
Murdered or not, anyone who goes out with a car wreck like her is asking for whatever he gets.
She is a piece of work but you gotta admit that if you were her guy, she'd definitely be on board. And make that "train wreck".
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HeywoodJablome
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 08/24/2006 : 10:33:08
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Originally posted by BLT
Murdered or not, anyone who goes out with a car wreck like her is asking for whatever he gets.
True that.
When I watched the last season of Six Feet Under they depicted the day Cobain offed himself with the eldest brother smoking herb in his room and crying while "All Apologies" played on the stereo. I liked that show a lot until that moment, it wasn't that big of a deal as I remember. Or maybe I just missed a great excuse to do more sulking and bong tokin when it actually happened, DAMN IT.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 08/24/2006 : 10:35:56
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HeywoodJablome
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 08/24/2006 : 10:59:47
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Originally posted by darwin
What does Courtney Love gain by killing her cash cow?
ALL THE CASH!
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
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Posted - 08/24/2006 : 11:15:57
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quote:
Originally posted by Frog in the Sand
quote:
Originally posted by speedy_m
I think she also killed Paul McCartney in the 60s.
And JFK just before.
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blackolero le only Frank Black / Pixies site 100% in français
Yeah, she was the second gunman on the grassy knoll...
My son has become a huge Nirvana fan and he tells me that she murdered him about every other day...
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KingOfSiam
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USA
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Posted - 08/24/2006 : 11:34:46
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| Who cares, honestly...If OJ can get away with murder, then, I'm certain that anyone can! Knowing who killed him isn't going to give me another Nirvana record. |
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/24/2006 : 11:36:20
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Ooh, speculation.
Courtney Love was a friend of the coroner who pronounced the dead one dead, hmm, but the big one is...
Who killed El Duce? |
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 08/24/2006 : 12:42:09
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Originally posted by fbc
Ooh, speculation.
Courtney Love was a friend of the coroner who pronounced the dead one dead, hmm, but the big one is...
Who killed El Duce?
One look at that photo had me thinking he "needed killing", as they allegedly say in Texas, but then I went to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Duce , and as one who hasn't followed the Courtney killed Kurt thing, I am intrigued.
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 08/24/2006 : 13:02:31
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He was a staple of the LA music scene for a long time. I remember seeing him around the Cathay de Grande and Raji's (messing with the belly dancer) like it was yesterday, usually with drunken glazed eyes.
I didn't know much about the details of his death but the info about Drew Gallagher is fascinating. |
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
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Posted - 08/24/2006 : 13:28:19
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They have a clip of him with the Mentors in the Kurt/Courtney DvD. They were intense, would have scared the sh*t out of me.
http://www.sshep.com/kurtnew.htm
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fbc
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Posted - 08/24/2006 : 13:28:51
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Oops! I said the loud part quiet and quiet part loud
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HeywoodJablome
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 08/24/2006 : 13:46:58
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I heard El Duce was drinkin a 40 on the railroad tracks and didn't bother to move when the train came rollin through. I believe they ruled it a suicide. Oh, and the Mentors SUCKED! The only worse performer was probably GG Allin.
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ScottP
= Cult of Ray =
USA
618 Posts |
Posted - 08/24/2006 : 14:11:19
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| Yeah, I heard that when the train cut him in half, beer came pourin out. No blood. Just beer. |
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Chris Knight
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 08/24/2006 : 14:24:47
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| This is all so 1996. |
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fbc
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Posted - 08/24/2006 : 14:45:58
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bflat
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/04/2006 : 00:51:33
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Did you know the idea that Kurt was depressed was only really popularised by Courtney Love?
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tisasawath
= Cult of Ray =
Wallis and Futuna Islands
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Posted - 09/04/2006 : 05:44:29
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I was at their final (complete) concert. He was depressed.
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Tooth9
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Posted - 09/06/2006 : 13:15:20
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I don't know where you heard that, but it sounds like bullcrap.
Bam Wham, SLAM, BOOM!! |
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
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Posted - 09/06/2006 : 14:42:56
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 09/06/2006 : 14:53:14
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Courtney Love is always shooting her mouth off.
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ScottP
= Cult of Ray =
USA
618 Posts |
Posted - 09/06/2006 : 17:19:48
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| Kurt's wiener was rotting off from having soaked it in that skank. That's why he did it. |
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The Champ
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
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Posted - 09/09/2006 : 06:38:05
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| Are all of the above "facts" proven? |
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soundofataris
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rescuejohnson
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Posted - 09/17/2006 : 22:49:38
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| I think it's highly possible she did it, personally. Or at least influenced it. And you know...I tend to think when women are accused of ruining men or killing them that it's usually just a bunch of crappola since women have been accused of bringing down mankind since...well...Eve. But this is one of those rare occasions that I really think something is amiss and a very public widow might have been the manipulator putting the pieces in place at the very least. I would say at least investigate it more clearly, bring the case back into light again, and get real answers. That would at least quiet some minds on the subject. |
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soundofataris
= Cult of Ray =
USA
715 Posts |
Posted - 09/18/2006 : 06:33:25
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Courtney Love is really Kiaser Soze.
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So, Courtney Love had Kurt Killed then?
