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jtjcp88
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Posted - 08/21/2006 :  15:30:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was learning Purple Haze today and came across this great chord, that kinda forms the main riff of the song...

----0-------
----8-------
----7-------
----6-------
----7-------
----0-------

And I was wondering how the fuck he thought of using that chord. Basically what I mean is, is there a sort of formula or pattern in finding chords, does it perhaps depend on the key of the song, or isit all trial and error?

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Carl
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Posted - 08/21/2006 :  16:24:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's pretty famous. I find it hard to pick up a guitar and not play that if I'm jammin' around. It's kind of jokingly know as the 'Jimi Chord', but I mean, I think I can confindently say he didn't invent it!! The notes of the A, D and G strings form a basic jazzy-sounding triad, enhanced by the eight-fret note on the B, and the open strummed E strings give in an extra blast of power!

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jtjcp88
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Posted - 08/21/2006 :  16:34:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
But how did he know to use that specific chord? Isit just from experience and years of playing or is there an actual chord formula if you like.

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Carl
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Posted - 08/21/2006 :  16:55:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm sure he just picked that chord up, among many others, from playing and learning from other musicians, etc.

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hammerhands
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Posted - 08/22/2006 :  02:18:52  Show Profile  Visit hammerhands's Homepage  Reply with Quote
That's a pretty wicked chord, a variation of a very traditional E7#9. What are the chords before and after?

Edited by - hammerhands on 08/22/2006 02:45:55
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jtjcp88
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Posted - 08/22/2006 :  11:09:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hammerhands

That's a pretty wicked chord, a variation of a very traditional E7#9. What are the chords before and after?



-0------0-----0------
-8------3-----5------
-7------4-----6------
-6------5-----7------
-7------0-----0------
-0------3-----5------

But its more fun to play this way

-0---------------------------
-8---------------------------
-7--------4------------------
-6--------5------------------
-7---------------------------
-0--3--3--3--5--5--7--5--0---

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Edited by - jtjcp88 on 08/22/2006 11:10:12
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floop
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Posted - 08/22/2006 :  11:18:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jtjcp88

I was learning Purple Haze today and came across this great chord, that kinda forms the main riff of the song...

----0-------
----8-------
----7-------
----6-------
----7-------
----0-------




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PixieSteve
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Posted - 08/22/2006 :  12:30:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
wrong thread floop, he's saying it's unusual, not necessarily hard.


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hammerhands
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Posted - 08/22/2006 :  21:21:00  Show Profile  Visit hammerhands's Homepage  Reply with Quote
In answer to your questions, the more you know the less you have to do by trial and error, or hunting and pecking. The chords of many songs are built very close to a key.

See.

It would be close to impossible to know exactly what someone is thinking but some chords have interesting properties and some progressions of chords will dictate a direction. A chord can fill in a gap or finish an idea.

In this case I will guess that the chord was compelling enough that the whole of the music for the verse was based on that chord.

The traditional E7#9, the 7-6-7-8 on the A string, is pretty small, putting the E on the bass adds another octave. You could play the 8th fret on the high E as well, for more range. Maybe it is not played that way because the other chords would have to be smaller, or maybe just to keep that high E string ringing.

The rest of the progression keeps those rattling open strings. If you were to bar at that point you would almost surely have to fret the high E string.

E-E-G#-D-G-E
G-A-G-B-D-E
A-A-A-C#-E-E

The first two chords have lots of similar notes.

Edited by - hammerhands on 10/29/2006 04:09:46
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jtjcp88
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Posted - 08/23/2006 :  08:37:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cheers for that Hammerhands. That sites helped a lot.

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thierry512
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Posted - 10/21/2006 :  06:55:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
joey santiago plays this chord in the intro of "is she weird"
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marcus2
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Posted - 10/28/2006 :  21:40:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good call.

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dizzy g
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Posted - 11/14/2006 :  17:51:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
it's got a nice dissoncance to it because of the maj/min quality in the chord. in it has a min 3rd and a maj3rd with the dominant 7 in between. taxman, purple haze and yeah is she weird is the same chord but in f# i believe. it's a great chord to put on the V before returning to the I.

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