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speedy_m
= Frankofile =
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 Posted - 08/31/2006 : 14:32:22
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Originally posted by speedy_m
I don't know if there is a more appropriate thread to add my two cents on the general debate of the Frank "sound", but this seems as good as any of the multiple other threads relating to the issue. I think the S/T first album and TOTY reprsent a particular Franks sound or era, and in recreating that sound live, Frank felt that something was missing. Layers of overdubs and synths sound great on an album, but live I think that concerts from that era felt a bit flat (I know this only from the poor quality bootlegs I've heard, so I may be way off base). I love those songs dearly, and I enjoy the hell out of hearing them live (on his more recent tours), but I recall an interview with Frank where he described his dissatifaction with the "facisimile" of a live experience feel to his studio work, and thus this sort of "purification" or recoridng began with Cult of Ray. A stripped down, more immediate, more "real" sound. This eventually led to the live to 2-track era, and live shows essentially sounded just as good if not better than the albums.
Now Frank is doing the same thing, only with many more players and instruments per song (which really began with bringing EDF back for Dog in the Sand). So as for why Frank doesn't write quirky TOTY era song anymore; I think he does, they're just filtered differently. The seeds of what Frank plays today were sown long ago, from the folk of the Pixies (look at all the acoustic guitars on SR/COP) to the twang of TOTY (Speedy Marie, for example). It's all disco.
he's back jack smoking crack find him if you want to get found
Just a quick reply to say you have got to get your hands on FB and TMBG live at electric ladyland and also The FB boot "No big Deal".
These live shows are the furthest from flat sounding you can imagine. Beautifully played guitars, bass and drums with keyboards and sax for good measure. They were obviously some excellent shows with fine renditions of their respective albums.
Sam, if you feel you gotta hook a brother up, then brother, hook me up. Though I may have that FB and TMBG one, I'll check when I get home.
he's back jack smoking crack find him if you want to get found
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
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Posted - 08/31/2006 : 14:47:29
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I'm pretty sure I actually got that particular one from you - that's the one with One Step Beyond, etc...
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =
Canada
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Posted - 08/31/2006 : 14:49:54
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Oh ya, One Step Beyond. I gotta go listen to that again, because I certainly remember that being awesome. However, I also remember some of the stuff sounding really weak. I guess having no ablum version of One Step Beyong to comapare to helped. For example: Robert Pollard has been playing songs from is upcoming album on tour, and they sound delicious and I want to make babies with them. His new album just leaked on the recorded versions sound dull and lifeless in comparison. So.... there's that.
he's back jack smoking crack find him if you want to get found
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franksavedmysoul
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Posted - 09/06/2006 : 14:58:35
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| Ok to much Frank Black! Give me a break, this Man has made us so many albums over the years we should be washing his car or clipping his yard.He has made it posible to for us fans to lookward to something damn near every year as long as I can remember. Thank you Frank and dont listen to anyone who says there is to much. I look for ward to anything you do. Jim Once I Found A Golden Trumpet |
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Brank_Flack
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
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Posted - 09/06/2006 : 17:37:29
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| ^well said |
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franksavedmysoul
- FB Fan -
USA
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Posted - 09/07/2006 : 08:25:49
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| Thanks Brank Flack |
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/07/2006 : 10:09:34
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| Yeah, that's a good thought there. |
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HeroJuan
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Posted - 09/08/2006 : 13:34:51
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Originally posted by cellar_door
I love how people presume to know what the best plan for releasing music is.
Newsflash so called Frank Black fans:
This is Franks music. he writes it and performs it because HE loves
I agree 100% with cellar, and I advise everyone to check out http://henryrollins.ifc.com/episodes/shelter.jsp to see The Man perform Nadine and I can't remember what other song right now. Theres also an interview where FB comments on the direction his music has been taking as of late. But I must say that it took a few listens for FM/RM to grow on me and it really irks me that certain fans just dismiss it outright. sigh. When I first heard SMYT I wasn't quite sure what to think of it, and now it's my favorite album. |
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