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coastline
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 Posted - 08/09/2006 : 09:55:02
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Another good interview with the man, this one from the Riverfront Times in St. Louis. Damn, I'm getting excited about seeing him later this month. These concert preview stories really get me going.
http://www.riverfronttimes.com/Issues/2006-08-09/music/music.html
Death to the Pixies (Again!?)
Epiphanies, Power Wheels and the Pixies -- all in a tour's work for Frank Black.
By Rob Trucks
As the past and present leader of the Pixies, the most influential band in your alt-rock lifetime (insert Nirvana and 157 other band names here), Charles Michael Kittridge Thompson IV (a.k.a. Black Francis, a.k.a. Frank Black) is the undisputed master of melodic post-punk primacy. As an interview subject he is rumored to be affable, yet reserved; amiable, yet remote. But his reputation as a bandmate (at least during the Pixies' first run) is a little pricklier. After all, Thompson is the man who, according to legend, sent a fax to management in 1993 that effectively called the whole Pixies thing off.
Knowing such, I tread lightly.
We talk about songwriting and the decision to bring his whole family along on a string of solo acoustic dates in August, because it's more than laborious to imagine this poster child for onstage catharsis leading a load-out of Big Wheels and booster seats. I offer possible (but unlikely) parallels: the Partridge Family, the Von Trapp Family Singers. Perhaps the Simpsons, who, upon entering the witness-protection program in an effort to escape arch-nemesis Sideshow Bob, actually adopt the Thompson moniker.
"Maybe the Osbournes," Thompson says with a laugh. "We're just going to give it a shot, you know, to see if we're a showbiz family. I don't know how to do anything else."
So far, so good. Life is a cordial sundae topped with a sweet (if reticent) cherry.
But when I ask Thompson whether he harbors hopes of actually writing songs while sharing a tour bus with his wife, four children, a nanny, a tour manager and a driver, he instead proceeds to expound on the possibility of a new Pixies record.
And I, for lack of a better term, am fucking astounded.
"There's some gentle talk among the Pixies," Thompson says, "and when I say 'gentle' I mean it's like even via other people and stuff — it's kind of crazy — but, you know, about getting together to jam.
"And when I say 'jam,' we're not like Phish or whatever. We don't jam in that sense. What you do is you almost meditate on the material. You play it over and over again. You practice, you know, and that's what we need to do as a band if we're ever going to record again."
That a four-member group must depend upon the "gentle talk" of go-betweens to schedule a rehearsal is odd. That the same quartet — despite sharing a stage for well over a hundred shows in the last two years alone — has not yet transitioned into a complete band is odder still. Until you remember that you're talking about the Pixies. Towering tales of personality conflicts, professional disagreements and general animosity from the group's final days resonate like a hangover. So for many, news of a Pixies reunion was on par with the loaves and the fishes, the water turning into wine.
Following his infamous fax, Charles Thompson reversed his Pixies nom de plume (Black Francis became Frank Black), embarked on a solo career and released an annual album, more or less, for the next dozen years. Much excellent work was overlooked because it wasn't the Pixies; some not-so-excellent work was passed over for the same reason.
And yet on the eve of the Pixies' most unlikely convergence — with his profile as elevated as it had been in a decade — Charles Thompson made the first of two sojourns to Nashville. Marathon recording stints there with Southern studio vets such as Steve Cropper, Spooner Oldham and David Hood produced over two hours of material: Black's initial Americana foray, 2005's Honeycomb, as well as this year's double-disc Fast Man Raider Man. The sessions, Thompson says, were "a longstanding whim."
"I had over the years become a very huge fan of [Bob Dylan's] Blonde on Blonde," he says. "I started talking about this with [producer] John Tiven like ten years ago when he was in New York. And he would very gently call me every six months or so — and sometimes he would bring it up, and sometimes he wouldn't, but he occasionally would say, 'Hey Charles, so you ready to make Black on Blonde?'
"I guess you could say both records represent the sort of Black on Blonde scenario, where the artiste heads to Nashville and works with musicians that got a lot of mojo. I mean, I wasn't necessarily trying to sound like Blonde on Blonde or anything like that, it was just to kind of go through that experience. 'Hey, I want to go to Nashville. I want to play with those guys.'"
Fair enough. But both Honeycomb and Fast Man Raider Man have once again been overshadowed by the specter of a band unsure of its next move. So what exactly do Frank Black fans want?
"They want Surfer Rosa or Doolittle," Thompson says. "Those are the records which I have gold discs for. Those are the most popular records — and so just the sheer numbers of that audience, the audience that likes those records, it's like sort of dealing with, like, China or something.
"What do people want? Well, what people? Which people, you know? Even among my most ardent fans I can kind of suss that there's a variety of opinions there, but for me, people are the Chinese. They're this other vast audience, which bought a bunch of copies of Doolittle and a bunch of copies of Surfer Rosa, so they're like the army of people, and yeah, what they want is they want some more of that."
And so maybe, finally, once more, for the first time ever, Thompson is ready to give it to them. But will it be as a solo artist? Or as a member of a group?
"I remember performing recently [with the Pixies] in Zagreb, Croatia," Thompson says. "We were playing at a little outdoor sports arena and it was full. There were four-and-a-half-thousand people, so that's pretty good for a band that, you know, is in Croatia and hasn't put out a record for twelve years.
"And I was standing on the stage and I had this little inspired epiphany, enjoying myself there in the summer evening, in the big massive Pixies sing-along there with the Croatians. I said, 'You know, if I can't get the Pixies to record another record, screw it. Maybe I won't be able to come back to Croatia and deliver the Pixies, but maybe I can come up with something that will, you know, be an approximation of that.'"
In August Charles Thompson and family will take in the bounty of America's vistas among acoustic tour stops. But come September, somewhere within the nation's great expanse, the Pixies will get together to jam (but not like Phish).
Or they may not.
"If the Pixies are suspicious of me — or if they think that they don't want to be in a band with me or if I don't have their vote of confidence — then it's kind of over and I can't get there," Thompson says. "I can't get to that same space. I've never really felt the need to do it, but talking about Zagreb, Croatia, the other night, I mean, I'm thinking, 'Well, you know, maybe that's what people want, even if I can't do it with the original band.'"
Who / What:
Frank Black
Music Date:
Friday, August 11
Music Genre:
Rock & Pop
Details:
9 p.m. $15. 314-727-4444.
Where:
Blueberry Hill's Duck Room (6504 Delmar Boulevard, University City)
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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Posted - 08/09/2006 : 10:23:36
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Originally posted by coastline
"I remember performing recently [with the Pixies] in Zagreb, Croatia," Thompson says. "We were playing at a little outdoor sports arena and it was full. There were four-and-a-half-thousand people, so that's pretty good for a band that, you know, is in Croatia and hasn't put out a record for twelve years.
"And I was standing on the stage and I had this little inspired epiphany, enjoying myself there in the summer evening, in the big massive Pixies sing-along there with the Croatians. I said, 'You know, if I can't get the Pixies to record another record, screw it. Maybe I won't be able to come back to Croatia and deliver the Pixies, but maybe I can come up with something that will, you know, be an approximation of that.'"
In August Charles Thompson and family will take in the bounty of America's vistas among acoustic tour stops. But come September, somewhere within the nation's great expanse, the Pixies will get together to jam (but not like Phish).
Or they may not.
"If the Pixies are suspicious of me — or if they think that they don't want to be in a band with me or if I don't have their vote of confidence — then it's kind of over and I can't get there," Thompson says. "I can't get to that same space. I've never really felt the need to do it, but talking about Zagreb, Croatia, the other night, I mean, I'm thinking, 'Well, you know, maybe that's what people want, even if I can't do it with the original band.'"
Uh... either Frank is being very mysterious, or my english is very shitty, but I don't get what he says. He wants to make a solo album that sounds like Surfer Rosa? Sounds good to me.
Denis
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Frog in the Sand
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Posted - 08/09/2006 : 12:51:53
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Not a solo album... a Schwarma album. Isn't it obvious?
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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 08/09/2006 : 13:12:16
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| I'll tell you what I want, I want Frank to follow his muses, his instincts, they've been so good up to now. I don't want him to cater. This is art and no artist moves forward by recreating the past, but revisiting and stealing from the past is all good! |
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
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Posted - 08/13/2006 : 16:11:59
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| It's just a feeling of the moment he expresses in each interview. Beetween the album with EDF, the Shwarma thing and the new pixies thing, I'm a bit lost, but anyway It will be Frank Black music. All good for me! |
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 08/13/2006 : 21:00:02
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Originally posted by vilainde
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Originally posted by coastline
"I remember performing recently [with the Pixies] in Zagreb, Croatia," Thompson says. "We were playing at a little outdoor sports arena and it was full. There were four-and-a-half-thousand people, so that's pretty good for a band that, you know, is in Croatia and hasn't put out a record for twelve years.
"And I was standing on the stage and I had this little inspired epiphany, enjoying myself there in the summer evening, in the big massive Pixies sing-along there with the Croatians. I said, 'You know, if I can't get the Pixies to record another record, screw it. Maybe I won't be able to come back to Croatia and deliver the Pixies, but maybe I can come up with something that will, you know, be an approximation of that.'"
In August Charles Thompson and family will take in the bounty of America's vistas among acoustic tour stops. But come September, somewhere within the nation's great expanse, the Pixies will get together to jam (but not like Phish).
Or they may not.
"If the Pixies are suspicious of me — or if they think that they don't want to be in a band with me or if I don't have their vote of confidence — then it's kind of over and I can't get there," Thompson says. "I can't get to that same space. I've never really felt the need to do it, but talking about Zagreb, Croatia, the other night, I mean, I'm thinking, 'Well, you know, maybe that's what people want, even if I can't do it with the original band.'"
Uh... either Frank is being very mysterious, or my english is very shitty, but I don't get what he says. He wants to make a solo album that sounds like Surfer Rosa? Sounds good to me.
Denis
I have been speaking and reading English my entire life and I don't even know what Frank's talking about there.
Maybe the writer is leaving something out. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
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Posted - 08/13/2006 : 21:03:40
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I'm not sure what seems unclear there, but let me swing at it anyway...
I think what he's saying is that he's be quite willing to put up with a new band that has a different sound that people will like or respond to like they did to the Pixies. Maybe he can find new chemistries, that sort of thing. Forgive me if you're talking about something else or if I've completely misinterpreted.
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ScottP
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 08/13/2006 : 23:26:14
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| ...or possibly carrying on without Kim? |
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 08/14/2006 : 01:44:30
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| Like he said he's not a politician, so these talks might not be a declaration of intention but just a feeling he had during that show... |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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Posted - 08/14/2006 : 05:33:35
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like I said in another thread
sounds like Schwarma to me!
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Dallas
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 08/14/2006 : 10:05:43
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Wow, the mind races with possibilities. Yes Frank, we want the rawk!
I love FMRM, don't ge me wrong, but, we need the rock end of the spectrum as well. |
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 08/14/2006 : 11:32:15
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Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
I'm not sure what seems unclear there, but let me swing at it anyway...
I think what he's saying is that he's be quite willing to put up with a new band that has a different sound that people will like or respond to like they did to the Pixies. Maybe he can find new chemistries, that sort of thing. Forgive me if you're talking about something else or if I've completely misinterpreted.
"No man remains quite what he was when he recognizes himself."
That makes sense.
Those quotes read to me almost like Frank was saying he was thinking about making his solo albums more Pixies-like, which seemed like an out of character thing to say.
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-
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Posted - 08/14/2006 : 11:51:10
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Frank Black - vocals, guitar
+ Joey Santiago - guitar
+ EDF - bass, keys
+ David Lovering / Nick Vincent - drums
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
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Posted - 08/14/2006 : 11:58:38
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fingers crossed! |
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
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Posted - 08/15/2006 : 07:32:47
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So Schwarma is the orange album band?
I thought it was supposed to be a power trio.
But the "approximation" he was talking about could fit this guess... And I remember Frank said he would be ripped off if he did it without Kim Deal BUT he allready did the opposite of what he had said a million times, like for example to reunite the pixies.
Anyway, I'll vote yes for Nick, Eric and Joey, a big NO for Dave Grrrrrrroohl, this guy is a lodger (seems to be a nice guy but he really has a heavy touch).
...and about David Lovering, well I thought frank didn't really appreciated his druming... |
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