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ruzom
= Cult of Ray =

France
267 Posts

Posted - 05/17/2010 :  15:02:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Squinky? Sorry, bad Monkey Island joke... (in the original context, it was good though).

Damn, Broken Face, I'm so sorry for you, it seemed a hell of a plan for a party, I wish I could do such a thing on the occasion of the series finale.

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Originally posted by s_wrenn


I've got theories!

But i'm holding off, cos they feel spoilerish if they turn out to be true,


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Well my theory was that Jacob and MiB would be twins, and hey, i was right!

Originally i thought that Jacob was going to be Charlie Jr (As in Desmond's son Charlie) And MiB would be David Shepard (Somehow torn through a parallel universe, becoming the smoke monster as a result)


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Actually one of my main theories was almost the same than yours except Jacob would have been Aaron travelling in time...

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s_wrenn
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1851 Posts

Posted - 05/19/2010 :  04:14:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Am i the only one who thinks 2 and a half hours isn't enough time for the finale?
It's just, i don't know, little things, that i'd like resolved. Like the black horse from season 2, or what happened to Vincent, Rose and Bernard after everyone else came from 1977 to 2007?


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ruzom
= Cult of Ray =

France
267 Posts

Posted - 05/19/2010 :  15:22:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I hope the show can still surprise me in a good way. So I'm waiting for the last episodes to have an opinion about it actually. I was quite frustrated by this season. Way too much idle and empty for me when there was so much to develop / explain. For a while now I had the feeling pretty much of the mysteries finally weren't so mysterious at all(take the Dharma Initiative, on Season 2 and with the Lost Experience we could have imagined it was something insanely huge and when you see the episodes from season 5 you're tempted to consider there were just a bunch of scientists all in all...). I hope those deceptions had a meaning and - as naive as it could sound, but I don't expect much from the show anymore except for it to end so I can use my time better! - I'm waiting for the reward for all of this on the occasion of the last couple of episodes.


I liked the latest episode though!
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Brank_Flack
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
1017 Posts

Posted - 05/20/2010 :  11:30:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by s_wrenn

Am i the only one who thinks 2 and a half hours isn't enough time for the finale?
It's just, i don't know, little things, that i'd like resolved. Like the black horse from season 2, or what happened to Vincent, Rose and Bernard after everyone else came from 1977 to 2007?


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I think the Horse, and most of the other things people saw on the island from their past is the smoke monster. I think Rose and Bernard stayed in 1977, it seems like only the candidates moved forward in time - just like they were the only ones who went back in time when Ajira was landing on the island.

Looking forward to the finale!

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s_wrenn
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1851 Posts

Posted - 05/20/2010 :  12:04:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hmm, i guess so. I have noticed over the years that some of the answers were exposed without really shoving it in your face (like the numbers) So i guess a rewatch of the entire series is needed for closure.


So, anyone want to throw out some theories for the finale?
I'm very intrigued by Jack's ex-wife/David's mother . . . I'm gonna take a wild guess and say it's Juliet


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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 05/20/2010 :  16:37:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Why couldn't Jacob kill the smoke monster? The smoke monster could kill him (and did). Right?
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 05/20/2010 :  18:47:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Where is Miles? What happened to the pilot? Who let out Desmond?
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Brank_Flack
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
1017 Posts

Posted - 05/20/2010 :  19:25:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"Why couldn't Jacob kill the smoke monster? The smoke monster could kill him (and did). Right? Where is Miles? What happened to the pilot? Who let out Desmond?"

Jacob and the smoke monster couldn't kill each other because they're mother (who was the previous jacob) made it so that they couldnt kill eac other. The smoke monster cant kill Jacob directly, he tries to get Richard to kill him in Ab Aterno, and gets Ben to kill him in The Incident. Miles is running through the jungle, the pilot got killed in the submarine, and Desmond was let out by Sayid.

I just went to a live HD telecast (at a movie theatre) of an interview with Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse (and as surprise guests Michael Emerson and Jorge Garcia) which was really cool. They showed some clips from the series and i'm actually uppset that I cant watch the whole thing on a theatre screen - I can't over-emphasize how amazing it looked on the big screen. It just felt right, and added layers of epicness.

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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 05/20/2010 :  20:32:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Brank_Flack
Desmond was let out by Sayid.



I can agree with the rest that you said, but in the sub Sayid told Jack that Desmond was in the well.

Miles and Ben both have walkie talkies. I'm betting Ben is going to screw Locke.
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s_wrenn
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1851 Posts

Posted - 05/20/2010 :  23:33:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I feel that the writers had Miles run off on his own for a specific reason. Think about it, Miles can talk to the dead, the smoke monsters dead body or Mother is somewhere on the island (or possibly even Jacob at some stage in the episode) I get the feeling Miles will uncover a huge revelation through a deceased islander.

And i doubt Richard is dead.


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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2010 :  04:38:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by s_wrenn

I feel that the writers had Miles run off on his own for a specific reason. Think about it, Miles can talk to the dead, the smoke monsters dead body or Mother is somewhere on the island (or possibly even Jacob at some stage in the episode) I get the feeling Miles will uncover a huge revelation through a deceased islander.

And i doubt Richard is dead.



Widmore

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s_wrenn
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1851 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2010 :  06:54:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Or Frogurt maybe!

I found out to that RTÉ will be showing the finale Monday instead of Thursday, so thankfully i won't be watching crappy online footage or waiting 4 days in suspense. Also Sky1 is doing a simultaneous broadcast with ABC for the finale. This means Sky is showing it from 5am-7.30am Monday morning if anyone wants to stay up for that






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gyaneshwar
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194 Posts

Posted - 05/23/2010 :  19:11:05  Show Profile  Visit gyaneshwar's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by s_wrenn

Am i the only one who thinks 2 and a half hours isn't enough time for the finale?
It's just, i don't know, little things, that i'd like resolved. Like the black horse from season 2, or what happened to Vincent, Rose and Bernard after everyone else came from 1977 to 2007?


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OK, so black horse wasn't answered, but you did get to see the other three. So NOW are all of your questions answered?

My brain just got fucked. I have to think on this one for a day or so.
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gyaneshwar
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Posted - 05/23/2010 :  19:12:36  Show Profile  Visit gyaneshwar's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by s_wrenn

Hmm, i guess so. I have noticed over the years that some of the answers were exposed without really shoving it in your face (like the numbers) So i guess a rewatch of the entire series is needed for closure.


So, anyone want to throw out some theories for the finale?
I'm very intrigued by Jack's ex-wife/David's mother . . . I'm gonna take a wild guess and say it's Juliet


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You motherfuckin' prophet! Own up to it - you write for the show.
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s_wrenn
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1851 Posts

Posted - 05/24/2010 :  00:23:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hahah, i just spent too much time thinking about it.
After all, it was one of the most intriguing and involving shows i have ever seen. I would go online after certain episodes looking up literary references, clues through characters names, scientific realities versus the shows plot, etc.

Not every question was answered (The story behind the hieroglyphics and the origins of "mother" for example) but i feel this was done for a reason, so that fans would debate over their favourite show for years to come.

As a finale, it had an air of finales from previous seasons, aerial shots, that theme that i can't remember the name of (it was in the first season finale), epic fisticuffs, two groups on separate quests. Everything that made Lost finales great. The dying moments of the show in the bamboo field were fitting. The scene was the same, but the man of science was now the man of faith.



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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 05/24/2010 :  04:59:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Alright, so the alt world was some kind of purgatory where everyone got something they wanted (Jack good father, Locke learned to ask for help, Ben got to be in charge and be a good "dad", Hurley was lucky, Sawyer was a "good guy" cop, Juliet got to deliver babies that lived, Sun and Jin got to spend time together), but what did Kate and Charlie get?

Why didn't Ben go into the church?

Where did the plane with Sawyer and others go after it took off? I guess they just had a "normal" life somewhere.

In the end, there was just good on the island? What happened to the theme of good/evil?

What the hell did Widmore want?

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Broken Face
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USA
5155 Posts

Posted - 05/24/2010 :  06:31:56  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by darwin

Alright, so the alt world was some kind of purgatory where everyone got something they wanted (Jack good father, Locke learned to ask for help, Ben got to be in charge and be a good "dad", Hurley was lucky, Sawyer was a "good guy" cop, Juliet got to deliver babies that lived, Sun and Jin got to spend time together), but what did Kate and Charlie get?

Why didn't Ben go into the church?

Where did the plane with Sawyer and others go after it took off? I guess they just had a "normal" life somewhere.

In the end, there was just good on the island? What happened to the theme of good/evil?

What the hell did Widmore want?



I don't think it was about "getting what you want" so much as working out the shit in your life.

I think the Island is a place that brings out the extremes in personality - so you put Ben there, and he gets maniacal, you put Jack there, he becomes a hero.

Ben didn't go into the Church because he didn't work out all his issues yet. Much like why Michael, Eko, etc presumably (besides contractual reasons) weren't in there either.

- Brian
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 05/24/2010 :  06:33:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Broken Face

I don't think it was about "getting what you want" so much as working out the shit in your life.




Agreed, so what did Kate work out?
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s_wrenn
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1851 Posts

Posted - 05/24/2010 :  07:45:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by darwin
Agreed, so what did Kate work out?



(That she looks hot in a black dress)
I'm guessing it was her love for Jack?


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Broken Face
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USA
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Posted - 05/24/2010 :  09:36:40  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by darwin

quote:
Originally posted by Broken Face

I don't think it was about "getting what you want" so much as working out the shit in your life.




Agreed, so what did Kate work out?



I would guess that she came to terms with her role as a surrogate mother to Aaron - it was during her delivering Aaron that she "got it."

My least favorite part is the Sayid/Shannon reunion. She was clearly his second choice to Nadia. Cheap way to bring back a pretty face.

- Brian
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 05/24/2010 :  10:31:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Charlie also didn't seem to work anything out.

So, was the Desmond as the "fail safe" just Jacob being wrong? Or is it really necessary to have a time traveler for people to remember their lives after their dead?
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s_wrenn
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1851 Posts

Posted - 05/24/2010 :  11:16:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It has to be love, because it makes sense for Sawyer and Juliet too


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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
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Posted - 05/24/2010 :  11:37:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by s_wrenn

It has to be love, because it makes sense for Sawyer and Juliet too



They already loved each other. Sawyer had the not being a bad boy thing, but he was still seeking revenge.

Charlie was worse in the alt than he was before he died.
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s_wrenn
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1851 Posts

Posted - 05/24/2010 :  11:39:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm rewatching the finale now, and i'm guessing by Ben's face that he would rather not go in to the church because he can be with Alex and Danielle.


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Brank_Flack
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
1017 Posts

Posted - 05/24/2010 :  19:10:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree with Brian, Ben didn't feel like he was ready to move on - he had to make things right with Alex and Rousseau first (it helped that he made things right with Locke).

But hot damn, what a beautiful ending.

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s_wrenn
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1851 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2010 :  01:00:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is a 12 minute epilogue on the dvd that apparently answers quiet a lot of questions.
Here's the article and unboxing:

http://www.tvovermind.com/abc/lost/review-lost-epilogue-the-new-man-in-charge/27806/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXoa2kS_bYE


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ccuadros
* Dog in the Sand *

Chile
1315 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2010 :  03:50:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by s_wrenn

There is a 12 minute epilogue on the dvd that apparently answers quiet a lot of questions.
Here's the article and unboxing:

http://www.tvovermind.com/abc/lost/review-lost-epilogue-the-new-man-in-charge/27806/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXoa2kS_bYE


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I just watched, it´s a good ending although leave the door open for a movie. The epilogue gives you a good explanation of polar bears in the island and Walt appears again!....

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s_wrenn
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1851 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2010 :  04:49:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i'm actually going to wait for the complete boxset before i watch the epilogue. I'm sure it's floating around online now but i just feel like i can wait


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pot
> Teenager of the Year <

Iceland
3910 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2010 :  06:52:42  Show Profile  Visit pot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I just watched the finale recently, kind of left me disappointed but also relieved to finally get through the somewhat cumbersome season 6.

Did anyone ever work out who the two guys in the boat out by the antarctic playing chess were, remember right at the end of Season 1 (maybe 2)? They were playing chess and then there was a distress signal or something...

Was this part of a plot they decided to drop? It just seems to have had absolutely nothing to do with anything.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2010 :  13:56:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Weren't they working for Penny or am I confusing them for the guys in the Arctic?
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s_wrenn
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1851 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2010 :  16:57:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
they we're working for Penny, trying to locate the island


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