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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 07/31/2006 :  09:55:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

I admit that you make a compelling argument for mood and using the characters and events to paint a scene rather than tell a story, I guess the scene painted didn't really engage me or seem like it had much to offer that hadn't been painted many times before. I did get the sense that style was the focal point of their energies rather than substance, from perpetual thunder to midnight approaches into Miami to the gritty reel used for most of the stuff in Latin America. But again, I think you can use all those stylistic devices to paint a picture and still have characters that are engaging and interesting and a story that is exciting or dramatic or at least not disjointed.

I never watched the series, perhaps that was part of my problem, but if this is true to form then I suppose good on them. My arguments against would be levelled equally on the series then as well.

Positive note: I enjoyed the flights.




"No man remains quite what he was when he recognizes himself."



COF, everything that bothered you about it was the kernel of the series...it was unlike anything at the time...revelling in style, violence, and unabashed and unrealistic cool. No redeeming qualities...80's excess. I was worried this film (see previous posts) would be devoid of that somehow, but it translated into the present seemlessly with an interesting twist; muted desensitivity. The show was just as cold and deep, but 20 years ago it was fresh, shocking, and engaging. This doppelganger lifted that cloudy morality out of the past and placed it now where it strangely can belong...where it still has artistic style, but is no longer alien.
However, it's still cold as all get out.

Hank the 8th was a duplicated man

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El Loco
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206 Posts

Posted - 07/31/2006 :  10:14:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by vilainde

Good news. I read some blurb on imdb this morning that said critics were disappointed because the movie had little in common with the series. Uh... did anyone really want to see some Starsky & Hutch type of crap poking fun at the 80s?
<<"The TV series was noted for pastel color schemes, Don Johnson's narcissistic slickness and Philip Michael Thomas' piercing-eyed charisma," writes Philip Wuntch in the Dallas Morning News.>> Are you fucking kidding me?


Denis





70's foolio 70's
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
2002 Posts

Posted - 07/31/2006 :  10:24:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by El Loco

quote:
Originally posted by vilainde

Good news. I read some blurb on imdb this morning that said critics were disappointed because the movie had little in common with the series. Uh... did anyone really want to see some Starsky & Hutch type of crap poking fun at the 80s?
<<"The TV series was noted for pastel color schemes, Don Johnson's narcissistic slickness and Philip Michael Thomas' piercing-eyed charisma," writes Philip Wuntch in the Dallas Morning News.>> Are you fucking kidding me?


Denis





70's foolio 70's



No Vilande was right. VICE was 80's...S&H was 70's...I think you interpreted him wrong El Loco.

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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
2002 Posts

Posted - 08/01/2006 :  08:14:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I went and saw this AGAIN last night! I plan to see it again this week...so very very cool!

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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 08/01/2006 :  10:53:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, I think I'll have to go see this.


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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
2002 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2006 :  09:20:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am going to go see this again tonight.

Hank the 8th was a duplicated man

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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2006 :  09:42:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I suppose you shouldn't listen to critics...I've seen this both hailed and blasted for it's 'gritty' look, etc. I might wait until it comes out on DVD.

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floop
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Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2006 :  20:25:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
you definitely have a knack for writing movie reviews Tranny. i'm still not fired up to see the film though.





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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2006 :  02:13:36  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TRANSMARINE

I am going to go see this again tonight.

Hank the 8th was a duplicated man

-bRIAN



Wow, as much as I respect your arguments for the movie, seeing it more than once still boggles my mind. I can't imagine actually _loving_ this movie much less liking it.


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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
2002 Posts

Posted - 12/27/2006 :  11:43:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay folks. I've dug up this grave yet again.

So MIAMI VICE (2006) is now out on DVD and I was excited to purchase it having been pleasantly blown away by it last summer after I was so vehemently opposed to it from the start. There were way too many 'it's in that last sentance, by the way. Anyhow. This being my favorite movie of the year (as I posted so many praises and attempted to back it up months ago...see above to refresh) I finally used a Christmas gift card and snatched me a copy of the DVD.

Apparently it's only available in one of those God forsaken Director's Cut...but I thought it wouldn't differ much. Now, I really don't know how authorized or genuine this so-called director's cut is, but it has TOTALLY ruined the natural pacing and mood of the theatrical release last July. It has slapped on an unneccesary beginning credit sequence, altered the music cue positions throught, changed the end credit songs...UGH!!!! My guess is all this was not particularly overseen my Michael Mann, but okayed by him after Universal decided to attempt to recoup some losses for the DVD release. The film bombed, and it was very expensive. Critics and audiences weren't happy at all with the alienistic story-telling and ambiguous unfolding of scenarios, so they've made it more linear with these edits and reworks and additions. I HATE IT. WHY? Why can't a movie just be left alone these days? I watched this with disgust today, so fucking pissed off...it's ruined!

Anyway, sorry. Just had to vent. Where's my VENT YOUR ANGER THREAD when I need it?

Floop or Carl, have you seen this yet? It may not seem as bad on DVD if you haven't seen it in the theater, but I'm a stickler for detail and have a keen sponge-like ability for recall.

Oh! The blasphemy!

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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
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Posted - 12/27/2006 :  12:32:30  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I liked the Insider and Manhunter though for the most part feel that Mann fellow isn't up to all that much, shiny copshows with some fortunecookie philosophy thrown in and no matter how much talking takes place, the characters end up running around shooting each other in an airfield/metro/storm drain/creepy old house *yawn*

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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 12/28/2006 :  11:11:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by TRANSMARINE

Floop or Carl, have you seen this yet?




i ain't seen it.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 12/30/2006 :  08:10:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No, me neither. I'm sure it's reasonably enjoyable, but part of the TV series enduring appeal was it's period detail, i.e flashy white suits, etc.

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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <

Canada
4307 Posts

Posted - 01/01/2007 :  02:21:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i saw it on dvd and have cof's opine. not good. did not want to buy t-shirt, wanted money for rental back, wait it was a free rental, still, i want my money back....absolutely ridiculous. but then again i never liked the show in the first place. now if they make a magnum movie????????


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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2007 :  12:20:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Finally watched it the other night. Oh dear. It's almost a decent cop thriller, but it's just so bloody corny and po faced. The characters were so fucking humourless.

"I hate how the reptile dreams it's a mammal. Scaley monster: be what you are!!" - Erebus.
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