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mrgrieves1971
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 07/06/2006 : 08:38:31
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http://www.nme.com/news/pixies/23519
Pixies say they will never record again The reformed rockers will continue to tour Frank Black has revealed Pixies will never make another record.
However, they will continue to tour, following the success of their reunion gigs.
Black told Uncut: "I wish it could go a bit further again and we could make a record. Not all of the band-members are willing to do that. Rather than make a big deal out of it, we've agreed to just continue to play live."
The singer reassured fans over their commitment to touring, however.
He said: "We definitely enjoy ourselves. There is a little camaraderie, a gang mentality that takes over when we're about to take the stage."
He also revealed that the relationship between bassist Kim Deal and himself is much improved since the Pixies' first split in 1991.
Black said: "Now, if we're on tour together, we hang out, we hug. We have some good conversations, I suppose."
For more information, pick up a copy of this month's Uncut, out July 6. |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 07/06/2006 : 09:13:03
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Thanks for the heads up, mrgrieves. Hmmm, they don't actually quote him saying they definitely won't record again, but it's certainly a bit of a downer....but then again, a new Pixies record could turn out to be crap and embarrassing. An interview in Uncut? Cool.
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
2461 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2006 : 09:14:59
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The NME is written by a pack of monkeys anyway. At least the band is keen to keep playing together, which is by far the best scenario isn't it? |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2006 : 09:35:37
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quote: Originally posted by Ziggy
The NME is written by a pack of monkeys anyway.
Yeah but it's an Uncut quote.
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 07/06/2006 : 09:36:35
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Homers, will you you record a new Pixies album? Under the nom de plume Homer's Pet Pixie?
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http://www.gigwise.com/news.asp?contentid=19402
Pixies Abandon All Plans For Future New Material They'll never record again...
by Daniel Melia on 7/6/2006
The Pixies have confirmed what most people have suspected for a long time; that they won’t be recording any new material.
As we reported last month Frank Black had attempted to write new material for a new Pixies album but scrapped the songs saying they were “kind of fakey.”
In a new interview he told Uncut: "I wish it could go a bit further again and we could make a record. Not all of the band-members are willing to do that. Rather than make a big deal out of it, we've agreed to just continue to play live."
He added that the live arena was the place the band felt most comfortable and that it has helped his notoriously fraught relationship with Kim Deal: "We definitely enjoy ourselves. There is a little camaraderie, a gang mentality that takes over when we're about to take the stage."
"Now, if we're on tour together, we hang out, we hug. We have some good conversations, I suppose."
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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Posted - 07/06/2006 : 10:51:15
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What he told Brian on the podcast is more definitive than some recycled out of context quote, doncha think?
I’m the only one who can say that this light is mine
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2006 : 11:00:04
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What he told Brian?!?!?! :P
And yes.
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." |
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-
USA
5155 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2006 : 11:24:00
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Yeah he told me because i had to act as intepreter for your unruly brand of Maple Syrup smelling speech.
-Brian - http://bvsrant.blogspot.com |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2006 : 12:01:13
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Ha! I was just trying to make you appear useful.
And joking aside...
Dean: "Yeah, it's interesting bla bla bla... I remember reading a Billboard article a week or two ago... bla bla ... I also remember Joey further back saying how he was thinking that you might be coming up on the end of the Pixies with this tour. So I guess the question is, do you think this is sort of the end, the last tour with the Pixies?"
FB: "I don't know, did Joey say that?"
Brian: "I guess Joey said bla bla bla. Dean do you agree with that?"
Dean: "Yeah, that sounds about right. It was a long time ago."
FB: "Yeah, I mean, without sounding like there's some turmoil in the band or whatever - there's not - ..."
So. Let's take a look for question marks. Dean: 1. FB: 1. Brian: 1. So you see I've proved nothing. Buahahahahaha!
OK, OK, so the joking wasn't put aside at all, but I don't (today) smell of Maple syrup. We ran out and I had to gargle with poutine.
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." |
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IceManCometh
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Posted - 07/06/2006 : 12:16:14
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Yadda, yadda, yadda.
NME is notoriously inaccurate and often prone to pronouncing things in absolutes: last, first, never, definitely, etc.
I seem to remember that last time an FB record came out, Honeycomb, the band were saying "probably." Now they're saying "probably not." Around this time next year, when another FB or Breeders record comes out, we'll get yet another different answer. I wouldn't take all this PR stuff as gospel truth. Pretty soon, people aren't going to care. Yes, no, yes, no, yes, maybe, I don't know: come on.
That being said, I don't see what the big deal about doing another record is. Besides, well, Deal's supposed reluctance. Which, naturally, can change at any moment, given the right songs and the right conditions. I remember FB once saying in an interview that "they were just pop songs," referring to all his songs as both a solo artist and as Black Francis. And that's true.
Thing is, without a new record, how long are people going to continue seeing them? Diehards will indefinitely, but the average person?
I can think of a few great cult bands releasing good come-back records after a prolonged absence. Usually, they returned in some reinvented form. The best example I can come up with is Wire---gone for more than a second, and returning with a solid, fresh-sounding album. Television's eponymous album in the early nineties was much welcomed. I didn't care for the Buzzcock's return too much, but some people did.
I don't think any of these legacies were tarnished. |
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a guy in a rover
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
535 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2006 : 14:16:01
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NME is a pile of horseshit. I fucking hate it.
Kiss my ring...I am the greatest
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
2461 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2006 : 15:14:58
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Remember the infamous 'Frank and Kim bury the hatchet at Reading' article last year? |
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =
Canada
3581 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2006 : 15:49:13
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I'm surprized that Kim is reluctant. She seemed okay with the idea when they did the song for the Shrek 2 soundtrack (Bam Thwock) and to a lesser extent "Ain't That Pretty At All" (because its a cover). I thought Bam Thwock turned out really well, sounded great, and sounded like a "Pixies" song (as any song produced by those four people would).
he's back jack smoking crack find him if you want to get found
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 07/06/2006 : 16:00:23
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Me, I think the Pixies could continue just fine even with no new material.
Yeah, if they decided to do another big worldwide tour with no new material, people would get sick of them. This year, though, they're getting together for, like, two weeks and that's it. I think if they continue to do that -- play together more and more rarely -- then they could keep the Pixies, as purely a live act who play at festivals and the odd special occasion, viable as long as they want to. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2006 : 16:03:13
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I don't know, I think they can only milk it so long before they will start to lose that goodwill and basically tarnish their rep. There are other ways to damage a legacy...
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 07/06/2006 : 16:17:01
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i think they should go the Devo route and just do a few shows every now and then, but i'm not them
"I don't have any money to buy new clothes and if they paid me to get some I'd probably buy more hoodies." - Mark Wainfur |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 07/06/2006 : 16:31:09
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Unless they try new material, they should put it to rest for good. The Pixies were from a different time and place that is gone. The nostalgia and tours were nice for a while but IMHO that's over. |
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
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Posted - 07/06/2006 : 17:18:26
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god i know this is so long, but sorry i guess that's what being a gd fanatic is all about......
well, no matter what the pixies do, i totally support. if they’re happy, i am happy. it’s good to hear that FB’s relationship with Kim is more positive than when the p’s broke it off. also, they have a great history of work that even most bands would be happy to have one song as good as the pixies.
that said.... their future direction depends on what they want to get out of it. Is it to maximize profit? is it to have personal satisfaction, make the fans happy and live up to high standard? i would guess it’s a little bit of all of the above, but who knows. This was a personal and not business reaction. A business reaction would be different. You’d want to focus on profit and a model that’s going to generate the most profit. Maybe it’s touring forever like Phish or the Dead and profiting off of ticketsales and merch. Maybe it’s a strategy were you do end up putting out new material under the pixies name. another option could be like x where you have the regular band, in this case the pixies and then form another band with the same (and maybe more people). Then there’s stuff like itunes and selling out and doing commercials. anyway, you get the point there are lots of business models the pixies could follow or create.
I am sure that the pixies will do what’s right for them and their families. From what I’ve heard, it sounds like they have trusted business advisors that steer them in the right direction.
It’s nice because they put their personal interests first and then they look out for the fans. I know it’s been no secret that making money was a big part of the equation, but it’s good that it sounds like they were able to have a good time while making a bunch of fans happy.
I do think that the next two years will be important to the pixies history in that they might keep touring and risk it becoming old, take a break or record maybe under a different name. my gut does say that if the pixies do end up touring at the rate that they have been with no new material, that eventually they won’t get top billing at festivals and pack in the crowds quite as they have in the last few years, but maybe that’s ok with them. I know the true fans will always want to see them but it does appear that the initial hype has worn off. but anytime that they decide to record and it’s as good or better than the pixies project that hype will come back if they want it.
Seems like at least ever since i’ve been a fan that the pixies have always done what the heck they wanted and aren’t bowing down to anything else. i am proud to be a fan of such a band that’s real and does its own thing. as a fan all i was is for them to keep doing their thing because I think what they really want will only lead to happy band members, their families and of course all the fans.
my only advise would be just because initial reunion fever has worn off don't try anyhting new (either as a "new" band or under the good old pixies name) unless the art and the moment is exactly in a place that's good. acting too soon and screwing up will have a higher price than waiting longer and acting when them moment/art is where it feels right for everything. if the moment doesn't ever come, keep touring every three years or so and there will ALWAYS be PLENTY of fans digging Pixies.
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IceManCometh
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Posted - 07/06/2006 : 20:32:14
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I'm glad to see some people on the same page, since I thought I'd be blown out of the water for that one. I agree entirely with Cult of Frank, by the way. There are a billion different ways to expend a cache of good will.
Here's one: the whole yes or no thing. I have no problem with it being no. Just keep it that way. No more hemming and hawing. Enough of the teasing and the baiting. It's silly. I'm not implying that this is the band's fault entirely, as the media naturally has a way of twisting things out of proportion to ensnare our attention. But keep it that way: no. Enough.
On the other hand, I don't perceive their having very much to lose. The way I see it, their legacy is unimpeachable. No record they release, no matter how bad, is going to negate their prior work. To think so is being precious, in my opinion. To invoke a corollary outside the realm of music: think of all the crap the Hemingway estate released posthumously. Did that in any way diminish the integrity of the prior accomplishments? No.
On the other hand---how many hands do I have here?---this presupposes a new record would be bad at worst, and at best mediocre. I don't think so. I saw the Pixies in 1991, and then again on their reunion tour, and I didn't sense that any of the chemistry was lost. If anything, I sensed that it had been stengthened by humility and experience. "Bam Thwok" might have been a toss off, but it was a great little song (as speedy m pointed out)---still on heavy rotation around this camp---and it sounded like they picked up where they left off.
All of which is meant to imply: why the hell not?
Daisy's right. Every three or four years, sure, we'd go see them, but talents these large are a hell of a lot more than a nostalgia act. They're still capable of showing these punks how it should be done.
End of my point.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2006 : 22:00:00
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http://www.pr-inside.com/pixies-will-never-record-new-material-r10516.htm
PIXIES WILL NEVER RECORD NEW MATERIAL Movie & Entertainment News provided by World Entertainment News Network (www.wenn.com) 2006-07-06 21:31:49 -
Influential rockers the PIXIES will never record any new material, because some group members are concerned about tarnishing their highly acclaimed legacy. DEBASER frontman FRANK BLACK had tried to write new tracks for the band since they reformed for live appearances two years ago (04), but he was forced to ditch his efforts when he and bassist KIM DEAL quickly realised the songs were a pale imitation of their 1980s cult classics . And now Black has acquiesced to pressure from his bandmates for good, and insists the Pixies will only ever be a live act. He says, "I wish it could go a bit further again and we could make a record. Not all of the band-members are willing to do that. "Rather than make a big deal out of it, we've agreed to just continue to play live." |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2006 : 08:53:20
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"DEBASER frontman FRANK BLACK"
You have to laugh.
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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chineselover
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
348 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2006 : 11:02:02
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Bam didn't really sound like a Pixies song, a breeders one maybe, but it certainly wasn't instantly recognisable as having pixies magic |
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Skatealex1
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 07/07/2006 : 11:19:50
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I thought the joey santiago guitar in bam thwok gave it a very pixies sound. With out that guitar though it probaly wouldve sounded more breeders in my opinon
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
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Posted - 07/07/2006 : 12:00:02
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All day, I've been getting Google news alerts about the Pixies never recording again. But none of it yet seems based in fact. None of the quotes from Frank say the idea has been killed. Brian and Dean's interview with Frank Black seems the authoritative word at this point -- Frank says Kim is reluctant, but he seems hopeful she can be convinced to do it. Here's a quote from an article I just recieved: “Rather than make a deal out of it, we’ve agreed to just continue to play live." Doesn't sound to me like they've given up the ghost. |
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-
USA
5155 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2006 : 12:35:02
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Agreed Mr. Line - and i love that i am part of the most definitive news out there! It just goes to show you that even though we may not be a major news market, if even the lowliest interviewers ask the right questions, we get some truth, not hyped up bullshit.
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matto
= Cult of Ray =
USA
954 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2006 : 12:46:32
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my dumb 2 cents:
the worst pixies song is still better than a lot of other crap I listen to.
if the pixies recorded 15 new crap songs, I would eat it, eat it, eat it right up.
and like it.
and that's the worst that could happen (for me) if they did do it. : ) |
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
5305 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2006 : 09:56:14
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matto, i agree, i think the true fans will gobble what ever up and love it because it would be good.
the thing is with the pixies that the bar is so high and now that they've reached legendary status, it's hard for them to jump over that bar. honestly, i think that in terms of comparison of let's say Bam Thwok which is an amazing song that people didn't compare it to other music in general, they compared it to the pixies in general and because it was different from their previous stuff, it never got the attention it deserved. but i think it's important to say that the one of the other reasons why bam thwok wasn't as popular as it should have been is that given all the hype of the reunion, bam thwok didn't get the publicity or attention it deserved.
now if i could have been a lot shorter in saying that.......
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 07/08/2006 : 10:35:46
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http://www.undercover.com.au/news/2006/jul06/20060707_pixies.html
Pixies Never To Record Again by Daniel Zugna
July 7 2006
Pixies frontman Frank Black has declared that he has given up attempting to write new songs for the band.
Black told Uncut magazine that The Pixies will now only ever be a live band, with he and Kim Deal coming to the realisation that the new tunes failed to capture the spirit of their original late-’80s tunes. He said, “I wish it could go a bit further again and we could make a record. Not all of the band-members are willing to do that. Rather than make a big deal out of it, we've agreed to just continue to play live.”
Much of the pressure to abandon the songwriting efforts came from Black’s bandmates, who were concerned that the release of any sub-par nouveau Pixies tunes would forever tarnish the legacy of the band.
Pixies
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2004580002-2006310366,00.html
Pixies fairytale ends
The Pixies ... no new songs
By DEREK ROBINS Sun Online
ROCKERS The Pixies are refusing to record any more new material as they are worried about tarnishing their highly praised back catalogue of songs.
Front man Frank Black and bassist Kim Deal made the decision after realising that new tunes they’d penned after reforming in 2004 were pale re-workings of their 1980s classics.
Frank, who agreed that the band should concentrate on live performances after pressure from his band mates, said: “Rather than make a deal out of it, we’ve agreed to just continue to play live.
“I wish it could go a bit further again and we could make a record but not all of the band want to do that.”
http://www.drownedinsound.com/content/view/977231
NO album news: Frank's not doing a Pixies album
Artists: Pixies, Frank Black
Frank Black has told Uncut that there will never be another Pixies album, of new material anyway.
The singer said:
"I wish it could go a bit further again and we could make a record. Not all of the band-members are willing to do that. Rather than make a big deal out of it, we've agreed to just continue to play live. We definitely enjoy ourselves. There is a little camaraderie, a gang mentality that takes over when we're about to take the stage."
Black also told the magazine that he and Kim Deal still don't always see eye to eye, but that relations have obviously improved:
"Now, if we're on tour together, we hang out, we hug. We have some good conversations, I suppose."
http://www.aversion.com/news/news_article.cfm?news_id=6832
Pixies Retire from the Studio Jul 07, 2006
The Pixies have no plans to quit touring -- though they also have no plans to ever return to the studio.
Front man Frank Black told Uncut that the act has decided to quit attempting to write and record a new album. The band already trashed one batch of songs as sub-par (read full story), and now plans to make its reunion a touring-only arrangement.
The news probably won’t come as much of a shock to Pixies faithful. The act’s been touring consistently since reuniting in 2004 (read full story), and to date only mustered a single new track, “Bam Thwok,” a Kim Deal-penned number (read full story).
http://musicnews.virgin.net/Virgin/Lifestyle/Music/virginMusicNewsDetail/0,13556,1321400_music,00.html
No new material from Pixies
Frank Black, frontman of seminal eighties outfit Pixies, has revealed that the group will not record any new material.
Pixies achieved something of a cult status in the eighties with a string of classic hits.
Black attempted to write some new music for the band recently, but was left with the feeling that what he was producing resembled a pale imitation of the music of their eighties hey-day.
And now, rather than tarnish the band's legacy, Black feels it would be better to stick with what they have already produced.
Despite the decision to no longer produce new material, the band will continue to perform live.
The singer revealed: "I wish it could go a bit further again and we could make a record.
"Not all of the band members are willing to do that. Rather than make a big deal out of it, we've agreed to just continue to play live."
http://www.punknews.org/article/18513
Pixies rule out further recordings Posted by aubin on Friday, July 7, 2006 at 5:05 PM (EDT)
Contradicting earlier statements, The Pixies have ruled out further recording. Frank Black told NME:
I wish it could go a bit further again and we could make a record. Not all of the band-members are willing to do that. Rather than make a big deal out of it, we've agreed to just continue to play live. We definitely enjoy ourselves. There is a little camaraderie, a gang mentality that takes over when we're about to take the stage.
Since the Pixies reunited, they've recorded two tracks. This includes digital-only single "Bam Thwok" and Warren Zevon tribute cover "Ain’t That Pretty At All." In addition, the group released a behind-the-scenes documentary called loudQuietloud and a live performance DVD titled Sell Out.
Punknews.org has two post-reunion show reviews, one live in Toronto and one live in Mississauga.
http://www.chartattack.com/damn/2006/07/0745.cfm
Frank Black Confirms That Pixies Will Never Make Another Album Friday July 07, 2006 @ 06:00 PM By: ChartAttack.com Staff
We've told you time and time again that there's no chance of The Pixies recording another full album together. Frontman Frank Black recently proved us right during an interview in the new issue of Uncut.
"I wish it could go a bit further again and we could make a record," he told the magazine. "Not all the band members are willing to do that.
"Rather than make a big deal out of it, we've agreed to just continue to play live."
The band have recorded twice together since their reunion in 2002. The song "Bam Thwok," which was initially recorded for Shrek II, is available on iTunes. Their cover of "Ain't That Pretty At All" can be found on the Warren Zevon tribute, Enjoy Every Sandwich.
Rest assured, Pixies fans, Black Francis says the band are completely committed to touring worldwide and that he and bassist Kim Deal have long since set aside their differences.
"We definitely enjoy ourselves. There is a little camaraderie, a gang mentality that takes over when we're about to hit the stage.
"Now, if we're on tour together, we hang out, we hug. We have some good conversations, I suppose."
Black will open for the Foo Fighters on August 23 at Toronto's Hummingbird Centre.
—Allegra Shepherd
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tobafett
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1713 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2006 : 16:53:20
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Just wait...I bet these fine journals start quoting the podcast next. |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 07:20:12
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http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/pixies%20members%20no%20longer%20drive%20each%20other%20crazy_1002351
PIXIES MEMBERS NO LONGER DRIVE EACH OTHER CRAZY
PIXIES bandmates FRANK BLACK and KIM DEAL have put their rocky relationship behind them and can finally relax together. Frontman Black and bassist Deal, who dated until the early 1990s, admit their conflicting personalities caused tension amongst the band. Black says, "In 1991, we found it hard to even look at each other, let alone speak. Now, if we're on tour together, we hang out, we hug. I can't say, though, that in 1991 our relationship had become full of rage, or hateful anger, or we were ready to lash out. "It was this stalemate. A standstill. Now, it's less like that! We have some good conversations, I suppose. I think now, we disagree on things, but we don't really care. whereas before it probably drove the other person crazy!" 13/07/2006 02:06 |
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Suicide_Samurai
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
431 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 15:10:50
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Lol, what?! |
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LovE-RicH
- FB Fan -
Slovenia
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Posted - 07/24/2006 : 08:22:41
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quote: Originally posted by Carl
[...]Frontman Black and bassist Deal, who dated until the early 1990s[...]
HM?? |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 07/25/2006 : 07:19:41
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Yeah, it's funny the assumptions people make....
Join the Cult Of Pob! And don't forget to listen to the Pobcast! |
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xacobe
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Posted - 07/25/2006 : 08:10:29
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Pixies said in a press conference in Benicassim summer festival at Spain(21/07/06) that they will reunite in kim cellar's house in september to practise new songs to make a possible new album.
"We have new ideas but not fixed. we pass thinking that we never record again to it could be possible... we will practising and if it's good enough we could record a new album"
Sorry for my bad english. Article is in spanish
http://es.guide.yahoo.com/21072006/185/pixies-grabaran-septiembre-posible-nuevo-disco-grupo.html
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
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