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a guy in a rover
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
535 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2006 :  07:49:41  Show Profile  Click to see a guy in a rover's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Okay, this thread has probably been done a bizzilion times before, and I guess it's pretty pointless but hey, im bored. Anyway I thought a cool idea would be to rank Franks albums, but (get this) each album is given a certain number of points based on its position eg 1st = 10 points, 2nd = 9 points, 3rd = 8 points etc.
Then after say, 2 weeks, I add up all the points for each album and divide it by the number of people who have taken part, thus giving each album an average score eg 8.2, 4.1 or whatever.
Then, I will list Franks albums from highest score to lowest score. Okay, its not exactly scientific, and many of you might not be to happy about awarding an album that you love a low number of points, but its not a measure of how good they are, just how good they are in comparison to one another. Sounds confusing but it isn't.
Here's my two cents:

1. Show Me Your Tears (10 points)
2. Dog in the Sand (9 points)
3. Teenager of the Year (8 points)
4. Devil's Workshop (7 points)
5. Black Letter Days (6 points)
6. Frank Black (5 points)
7. Pistolero (4 points)
8. Frank Black and the Catholics (3 points)
9. Honeycomb (2 points)
10. Cult of Ray (1 point)

Ps please play along or I will look like a saddo

fbc
-= Modulator =-

United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2006 :  08:19:13  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
1   Frank Black
2   Teenager of the Year
3   Frank Black and the Cathoilics
4   Cult of Ray
    Show Me Your Tears
5   Pistolero
    Dog In The Sand
    BLD/DW
    Honeycomb

Sorry, guy, I tried. Honest I did.

Edited by - fbc on 08/01/2006 09:55:11
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The Holiday Son
= Quote Accumulator =

France
2010 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2006 :  08:52:22  Show Profile  Visit The Holiday Son's Homepage  Reply with Quote
1  Teenager of the Year
2  Dog in the Sand
3  Frank Black
4  Devil's Workshop
   Black Letter Days
   Show Me Your Tears
   Pistolero
   Frank Black and the Catholics
   Cult of Ray
10 Honeycomb
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jose
- FB Fan -

France
140 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2006 :  09:58:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1 Teenager
2 Frank black
3 Dog in the sand
4 Cult of ray
5 Black Letter Days
6 Pistolero
7 Frank Black and the Catholics
8 Devil's Workshop
9 Show Me Your Tears
10 Honeycomb



I said Pretty Please !
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =

France
777 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2006 :  11:35:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1 Show Me Your Tears
2 Fast Man Raider Man
3 Teenager of the Year
4 Black Letter Days
5 Orange Album
6 Oddballs
7 Honeycomb
8 One more Road for the Hit
9 Dog in the Sand
10 Sunday Sunny Mill Valley Groove Day

The rest, well... let it rest.
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velvety
= Cult of Ray =

Portugal
536 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2006 :  11:41:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Still haven't got perspective on FM/RM, so it'll stay off the list for now.

1. Frank Black
2. Teenager of the Year
Dog in the Sand
3. Honeycomb
4. Devil's Workshop
5. Black Letter Days
6. Frank Black & The Catholics
7. Show Me Your Tears
8. Cult of Ray
Pistolero
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2564 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2006 :  12:01:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not included FM/RM or B-Sides compilations.

1. Frank Black & The Catholics (10 points)
2. Teenager Of The Year (9 points)
3. Show Me Your Tears (8 points)
4. Dog In The Sand (7 points)
5. The Cult Of Ray (6 points)
6. Honeycomb (5 points)
7. Pistolero (4 points)
8. Devil's Workshop (3 points)
9. Frank Black (2 points)
10. Black Letter Days (1 point)

"The arc of triumph"
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
2002 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2006 :  14:41:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1) FB&TC's
2) PISTOLERO
3) SMYT
4) TOTY
5) DITS
6) FMRM
7) FB
8) DW
9) COR
10) HC
11) BLD


Hank the 8th was a duplicated man

-bRIAN
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theonecontender
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
565 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2006 :  14:48:49  Show Profile  Visit theonecontender's Homepage  Reply with Quote
1. Dog in the Sand
2. Teenager of the Year
3. Frank Black and the Catholics
4. Honeycomb
5. Pistolero
6. Black Letter Days
7. Cult of Ray
8. Frank Black
9. Show Me Your Tears
10. Devil's Workshop

1c
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Don Eduardo
= Cult of Ray =

Australia
403 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2006 :  15:25:27  Show Profile  Click to see Don Eduardo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
1 Teenager
2. Pistolero
3. BLD
4. FB S/T
5. DITS
6. SMYT
7. DW
8. FB & TC's
9. Cult
10. Honey
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1965
= Cult of Ray =

Australia
799 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2006 :  15:36:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1. Black Letter Days (10 points)
2. Pistolero (9 points)
3. Teenager of the Year (8 points)
4. Cult of Ray (7 points)
5. Frank Black (6 points)
6. DITS (5 points)
7. Frank Black & The Catholics (4 points)
8. Devil's Workshop (3 points)
9. Show Me Your Tears (2 points)
10. Honey (1 point)

(( I'm a Snake... cut in half 'cause I'm not the one you needed. ))
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7443 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2006 :  01:12:16  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Excluding b-sides and unreleased albums:

1) Black Letter Days
2) Frank Black & the Catholics
3) Teenager of the Year
4) Show Me Your Tears
5) The Cult of Ray
6) Dog In The Sand
7) Frank Black
8) Devil's Workshop
9) Honeycomb
10) Pistolero

Positions #1-3 change daily.


Denis

I love Guitar Wolf from the Erath!
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beckett trance
- FB Fan -

USA
170 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2006 :  01:55:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1) Frank Black & the Catholics
2) Dog In The Sand
3) The Cult of Ray
4) Teenager of the Year
5) Show Me Your Tears
6) Pistolero
7) Frank Black
8) Honeycomb
9) Black Letter Days
10) Devil's Workshop

This could all be different on another day.

_______________________________________
** feeling deluxe for just a couple of bucks **
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <

New Zealand
3426 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2006 :  02:22:57  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
1. Dog in the Sand (10 points)
2. Pistolero (9)
3. Black Letter Days (8)
4. Frank Black and the Catholics (7)
5. Teenager of the Year (6)
6. Frank Black (5)
7. Show Me Your Tears (4)
8. Devil's Workshop (3)
9. Cult of Ray (2)
10. Honeycomb (1)



all i can say, thank god for polio! brian
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Suicide_Samurai
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
431 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2006 :  09:51:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1. Teenager of the Year
2. Devil's Workshop
3. Pistolero
4. Frank Black
5. Black Letter Days
6. Show Me Your Tears
7. Dog in the Sand
8. Frank Black and the Catholics
9. Cult of Ray
10. Honeycomb

The top 7 are so close, the list is painfully unfair to albums like DITS.
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lucasio
- FB Fan -

Switzerland
19 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2006 :  10:14:59  Show Profile  Visit lucasio's Homepage  Reply with Quote
1. Honeycomb
2. Devil's Workshop
3. Dog in the Sand
4. Tennager of the Year
. Oddballs
. Sunday Sunny Mill Valley Grove Day
7. Show me your tears
8. Cult of Ray
9. Frank Black
. Black Letter Days
. Pistolero
. Frank Black and the Catholics

Edited by - lucasio on 05/29/2006 10:17:02
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toeknee
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
281 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2006 :  17:37:03  Show Profile  Click to see toeknee's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
1. Frank Black
2. Frank Black And The Catholics
3. Pistolero
4. The Cult Of Ray
5. Dog In The Sand
6. Teenager of the year
7. Show Me Your Tears
8. Black Letter Days
9. Honeycomb
10. Devil's Workshop.
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mostasteless
- FB Fan -

81 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2006 :  17:41:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Black Letter Days
Teenager of the Year
Honeycomb
Dog in the Sand
Frank Black and the Catholics
Show me Your Tears
Devils Workshop
Pistolero
Cult of Ray
.....Frank Black


There is something about his debut that is very offputting to me. Its like all of the songs are good in their own right, but as an album they just dont do anything at all. Though I might listen to the odd track here and there, I almost never listen through the CD.

With FBatC it was the exact opposite. There were no standout hits, or singles. But the whole thing just goes together so damn well. You should have seen my face when I was reading the back of the CD one day and realized that he just put all the tracks in alphabetical order shock!
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2564 Posts

Posted - 05/30/2006 :  07:27:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was shocked to see it was just alphabetical too.

But shouldn't 'Dog Gone' come before 'Do You Feel Bad About It'?

"The arc of triumph"
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ScottP
= Cult of Ray =

USA
618 Posts

Posted - 05/30/2006 :  21:41:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pixiestu

Shouldn't 'Dog Gone' come before 'Do You Feel Bad About It'?



Absolutely not.

That said, my FB catalog rank is also in alphabetical order. Or not. I could never rank 'em. I tried, but I kept changing it. They're all my favorite. Cept for Cult Of Ray. Haven't heard that one yet. I know- lame.

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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *

1079 Posts

Posted - 05/31/2006 :  00:43:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
01 DEVIL'S WORKSHOP





www.myspace.com/oldskoolpariscool

++++
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Mike Rutherford
- FB Fan -

USA
171 Posts

Posted - 05/31/2006 :  03:05:10  Show Profile  Click to see Mike Rutherford's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Im shocked that so many refer to BLD as one of their "least faves"....how the HELL could you like BLD below Honeycomb, CoR, FB&TC, etc.?????

Anyways, here's my rankings (not counting FM/RM even though I have had the pleasure of it many times over)

Black Letter Days - perfection
Devils Workshop (it's really hard for me to consider these as 2 diff. albums since I got them both at the same time (even though it was a few months pre-official release) and I personally consider them as 1 and the same)
Teenager of the Year - My top 3 is so insanely perfection-ism as far as music is concerned that I would consider all 3 albums to be perfection-ism.................
Pistolero - HEAVY Frank - what a GREAT album.........raw and heavy Frank and the songs are friggin' GREAT.
Frank Black first solo - Like a Pixies album but only better...........Pixies with FB solo's eccentric touches, fantastic stuff......
Dog In the Sand - Amazing........the ONLY REASON(s) that the FB and PISTOLERO albums got a higher ranking is due to the fact that A: got them first and they led me to this and B: Were it NOT for those earlier FB solo releases I might have NEVer have even heard of nor considered this album.
Cult Of Ray - Half of this album is GREAT GREAT stuff!!!
FB&theC's - Damn good, raw, but damn good! Not as good as the above aforementioned.........
Show Me Your Tears - Several good tracks, but my least fave
Honeycomb - eh, not terrible, but not that great either............my least fave thus far.........
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7443 Posts

Posted - 05/31/2006 :  03:17:42  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Rutherford

Im shocked that so many refer to BLD as one of their "least faves"....how the HELL could you like BLD below Honeycomb, CoR, FB&TC, etc.?????



Agree. Definitely Frank's most underrated album. I can sort of understand that some people don't enjoy CoR (though I love it myself), but how one could not recognize the unsurpassable brilliance of BLD is beyond me. BLD is Frank's "Exile on Main Street" to me. Same number of tracks, same awesomeness, same under-recognition. In 20 years this will be considered as the best record of the 00's (just like TOTY was for the 90s).


Denis

I love Guitar Wolf from the Erath!
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markos
- FB Fan -

55 Posts

Posted - 05/31/2006 :  07:14:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This changes alot for me, aside from Teenager being number one.

1 Teenager
2 Dog in the sand
3 Pistolero
4 Black Letter Days
5 Show me your tears
6 FB and the c's
7 Cult of Ray
8 Frank Black
9 Devils workshop
10 honeycomb

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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =

France
777 Posts

Posted - 05/31/2006 :  11:54:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I allways thought Teenager would stay number one forever, but when I listen to it now the production seems to be very "Britpop 90's".

About Exile on main street and Black Letter Days, I know it was the reference as the catholics played it all the time in the tour van, but I would have never made the connexion by myself. Exactly like Honeycomb and Blonde on Blonde.
Blonde on blonde is a very drunk/Idontcare album and Honeycomb very precious and subbtle.
Exile is SO blues oriented I could never compare it to a rock album like Black Letter Days. Exile is closer to Fast Man Raider Man, that as only one or two real rocks.
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frankblackphx
= Cult of Ray =

USA
287 Posts

Posted - 05/31/2006 :  16:49:32  Show Profile  Visit frankblackphx's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi,

I think this never gets old. Good spin on the topic.

1. Teenager
2. Frank Black
3. Dog In the Sand
4. The Cult Of Ray
5. Black Letter Days
6. Devil's Workshop
7. Fb & the c's
8. Pistolero
9. Show Me Your Tears
10. Honeycomb

It does change all of the time.

Dan

I got me so down I got me a headache.
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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =

USA
876 Posts

Posted - 05/31/2006 :  19:05:03  Show Profile  Visit jimmy's Homepage  Reply with Quote


That's a really good point about the 1st catholics album- I was just just thinking about it, and I think it's right, because if the songs where just called "Do" and "Dog", "Do" would go first, so it stays the same regardless of what other words follow each one. I think.

It's hard to rank them all together, but,

I'd put Teenager above FB.
I'd put the 1st Catholics album above Pistolero.
BLD and DW above DitS.
Honeycomb above SMYT.
Oddballs above tCoR.




"Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you." JOHN 15:14
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2564 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2006 :  03:05:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jimmy


That's a really good point about the 1st catholics album- I was just just thinking about it, and I think it's right, because if the songs where just called "Do" and "Dog", "Do" would go first, so it stays the same regardless of what other words follow each one. I think.


Yeah, that's probably right. I was just looking at the letter following the 'o', but since 'do' is a seperate word to 'you' it seems to be right.

"The arc of triumph"
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mostasteless
- FB Fan -

81 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2006 :  10:04:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
indeed it is
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langdonboom
= Cult of Ray =

USA
260 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2006 :  14:56:44  Show Profile  Click to see langdonboom's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
1. Teenager
2. Dog in the Sand
3. Show Me Your Tears
4. Devils Workshop
5. Frank Black
6. FB&The C's
7. Pistolero
8. Black Letter Days
9. Honeycomb
10. Cult of Ray

Of course 3-9 are pretty close. And I suspect that FM/RM will settle into around 5-6 too, eventually.
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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =

USA
876 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2006 :  16:27:29  Show Profile  Visit jimmy's Homepage  Reply with Quote


I'm surprised to see "Honeycomb" come in dead last so many times, especially lower than "Pistolero". I thought everyone would put "The Cult Of Ray" last.

"Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you." JOHN 15:14
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jose
- FB Fan -

France
140 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2006 :  16:31:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the fact is that "The Cult Of Ray" is a good record

I said Pretty Please !
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1834 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2006 :  17:59:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1. Teenager
2. Frank Black
3. Black Letter Days
4. Dog In the Sand
5. Pistolero
6. Cult of Ray
7. Frank Black & the Catholics
8. Show Me Your Tears
9. Devil's Workshop
10. Honeycomb

For me 3-8 are pretty close and therefore most likely to fluctuate.

"Projectile management is the essence of the quality of life" - Ted Nugent
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2006 :  18:50:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hmm, i also have that problem. i don't really know, i've never been that good at this kind of thing.. but i'll have a go.

1. teenager of the year
2. black letter days
3. frank black
4. dog in the sand
5. pistolero
6. show me your tears
7. honeycomb
8. devil's workshop
9. frank black and the catholics
10. cult of ray



FAST_MAN  RAIDER_MAN - June 19th
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *

Australia
1811 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2006 :  19:41:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1. teenager
2. yellow
3. dog in the sand
4. show me your tears
5. fb&tc's
6. black letter days
7. pistolero
8. cult of ray
9. devil's workshop
10 honeycomb


i hate anyone who doesn't like me.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2006 :  21:15:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1. teenager
2. orange
3. dog in the sand
4. pistolero
5. black letter days
6. fb&tc's
7. devil's workshop
8. show me your tears
9. cult of ray
10 honeycomb
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