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Little Black Francis
> Teenager of the Year <
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 Posted - 06/03/2006 : 21:25:27
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1. dog in the sand
2. show me your tears
3. cult of ray
4. yellow
5. pistolero
6. teenager
7. fb&c's
8. black letter day
9. devil's workshop
10. Honeycomb
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ATBNG
- FB Fan -
USA
39 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2006 : 07:29:23
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1. Dog in the Sand
2. Teenager of the Year
3. Show Me Yor Tears
4. Frank Black
5. Honeycomb
6. Black Letter Days
7. Pistolero
8. Frank Black & the Catholics
9. Devil's Workshop
10. Cult of Ray |
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kotvana
- FB Fan -
Israel
102 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2006 : 06:55:05
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1. dog in the sand
2. frank black and the catholics
3. pistolero
4. teenager of the year
5. FM/RM
6. cult of ray
7. show me your tears
8. honeycomb
9. black letter days
10. devil's workshop |
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martha_promise
= Cult of Ray =
USA
398 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2006 : 07:46:57
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1. Teenager of the year
2. Dog in the Sand
3. Black Letter Days
4. Devil's Workshop
5. Show me Your Tears
6. Frank Black & the Catholics s/t
7. Pistolero
8. Frank Black s/t
9. Cult of Ray
10. Honeycomb
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bonedry
- FB Fan -
141 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2006 : 22:03:02
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| okay, work with me here people. my only problem with his orange/yellow/debut album is that the cymbals(i'm looking at you hi-hat) seem way sloppy in the mix. that being said it's his best album. followed by teenager. you know, i hate to say it, because it seems like by picking his first solo albums as his best implies that the quality falls off with age, but not the case! those albums are simply his best. will i get stoned for suggesting that after cult of ray there was a considerable shift. one that involved emotional, personal sounding lyrics, and yes, the live to two track aesthetic. it was a very aprubt shift and it was a shock to this frank fanatic. okay, bye. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2006 : 22:50:25
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Originally posted by bonedry
you know, i hate to say it, because it seems like by picking his first solo albums as his best implies that the quality falls off with age, but not the case! those albums are simply his best.
"I seem to saying that a = b, but it's not true. It's just that a = b." |
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Scarla O
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
947 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2006 : 00:52:42
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1. Teenager Of The Year
2. Show Me Your Tears
3. Devil's Workshop
4. Eponymous
5. Dog In The Sand
6. Honeycomb
7. Pistolero
8. Cult Of Ray
9. And The Catholics
10.Black Letter Days
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cassandra is
> Teenager of the Year <
France
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bonedry
- FB Fan -
141 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2006 : 10:11:59
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[quote]Originally posted by Scarla O
1. Teenager Of The Year
2. Show Me Your Tears
3. Devil's Workshop
4. Eponymous
how come i 've never heard of eponymous? did that come out before the pixies? |
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bonedry
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 06/06/2006 : 10:16:41
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Originally posted by darwin
quote:
Originally posted by bonedry
you know, i hate to say it, because it seems like by picking his first solo albums as his best implies that the quality falls off with age, but not the case! those albums are simply his best.
"I seem to saying that a = b, but it's not true. It's just that a = b."
um........sometimes people get old and start to suck. like when paul maccartney got lame real fast. but neil young's stuff in the 90's was better than his stuff in the 80's. i just feel as though i've betrayed mr. black by liking his first two albums better than anything else. i know he stays up at night scrolling through these threads and it eats him up inside. |
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1834 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2006 : 14:34:37
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Just now I feel bad for ranking Honeycomb last because, as is my wont, today I again used my car errands to hear it through. This time I played in on "random", skipping only Violet and Dark End, and it truly is wonderful that Frank is where he has been recently. Really offers an extension of the catalog. I do find that on a couple songs the vocals are too "bright" (Sunday Sunny), causing me to decrease the volume, but otherwise it is totally our Frank. I would offer titles but suffice to say half the songs would be listed as simply entrancing.
"Projectile management is the essence of the quality of life" - Ted Nugent |
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Scarla O
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
947 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2006 : 02:11:54
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Originally posted by bonedry
1. Teenager Of The Year
2. Show Me Your Tears
3. Devil's Workshop
4. Eponymous
how come i 've never heard of eponymous? did that come out before the pixies?
Sorry that just means 'self-titled' (ie, the orange album). |
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
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Posted - 06/08/2006 : 02:51:49
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Originally posted by darwin
quote:
Originally posted by bonedry
you know, i hate to say it, because it seems like by picking his first solo albums as his best implies that the quality falls off with age, but not the case! those albums are simply his best.
"I seem to saying that a = b, but it's not true. It's just that a = b."
a = quality falls with age
b = first solo albums are his best
a --> b (a implies b, i.e. if a is true then b is true)
he is pointing out that the above proposition is NOT that same as
a <--> b (b is true if and only if a is true)
thus b can be true even if a is not.
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2543 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2006 : 02:55:49
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1. DiTS
2. Teenager
3. Black Letter Days
4. FB
5. Pistolero
6. Show Me Your Tears
7. Cult of Ray
8. Devil's Workshop
9. Honeycomb
10. FB&tC's
I think.....
Also, been meaning to say Scarla O, thanks for putting the full mp3 of 'Clone' on your website, cracking song. Like the others too.
Pain is temporary, quitting is forever.
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bonedry
- FB Fan -
141 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2006 : 10:52:11
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quote:
Originally posted by Scarla O
quote:
Originally posted by bonedry
1. Teenager Of The Year
2. Show Me Your Tears
3. Devil's Workshop
4. Eponymous
how come i 've never heard of eponymous? did that come out before the pixies?
Sorry that just means 'self-titled' (ie, the orange album).
i'm sorry. my dry sense of humor doesn't translate on the internet. |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2006 : 13:11:45
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I start off TOTY, FB, DITS, BLD...and then I get really unsure.
BTW, Frank is not rank!!
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toeknee
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
281 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2006 : 18:27:43
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Originally posted by vilainde
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Originally posted by Mike Rutherford
Im shocked that so many refer to BLD as one of their "least faves"....how the HELL could you like BLD below Honeycomb, CoR, FB&TC, etc.?????
Agree. Definitely Frank's most underrated album. I can sort of understand that some people don't enjoy CoR (though I love it myself), but how one could not recognize the unsurpassable brilliance of BLD is beyond me. BLD is Frank's "Exile on Main Street" to me. Same number of tracks, same awesomeness, same under-recognition. In 20 years this will be considered as the best record of the 00's (just like TOTY was for the 90s).
Denis
I love Guitar Wolf from the Erath!
I found that with BLD, there was a period of about a week when I was blindly in love with it: I was convinced that this was an absolute masterpiece, and I'm not sure any of his other solo albums have hit its giddy heights. However, this has since descended into petty hatred. I'm not sure whether that makes it a great album or a terrible album, because what I love about FB albums is that you can constantly go back to songs and they sound as fresh and interesting as ever (COR especially comes to mind.) With what I consider his worst albums (BLD, H, DW) that just isn't there, and I have to forcibly restrain myself from skipping. |
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a guy in a rover
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
535 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2006 : 15:43:44
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Good to see this thread still going strong. Im gonna give it another week and then wave my magic wand and average everything out. Choops.
A pig or a goat well, they wouldn’t let you be mistreated
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2006 : 15:55:49
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Originally posted by Little Black Francis
1. dog in the sand
2. show me your tears
3. cult of ray
4. yellow
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teabagging
you would put SMYT above yellow?
"I don't have any money to buy new clothes and if they paid me to get some I'd probably buy more hoodies." - Mark Wainfur |
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offerw
* Dog in the Sand *
South Africa
1264 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2006 : 23:48:39
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1 TOTY
2 Dog In The Sand
3 Frank Black
4 Frank Black and the Catholics
5 Show Me Your Tears
6 Devils Workshop
7 Honeycomb
8 Black Letter Days
9 Pistolero
10 Cult of Ray
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a guy in a rover
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
535 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2006 : 16:10:11
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BADABADABADAAA!!!!!!
So here are the results, an average of everyones submissions/point awarding. I fiddled around a little bit due to the reluctance of some users to place Franks albums in any kind of hierachy and also the inclusion of b-sides/rarities threw a couple of spanners in the works but overall I would say it was a fair measure. Obviously it isnt some sort of scientific measure of how good the albums are, but it was a fun idea nevertheless. The averages came out as follows:
1. Teenager of the Year (8.02 points)
2. Dog in the Sand (6.94)
3. Frank Black (5.54)
4. Black Letter Days (5.05)
5. Pistolero (4.68)
6. Frank Black and the Catholics (4.65)
7. Show Me Your Tears (4.60)
8. Devils Workshop (3.57)
9. Cult of Ray (3.54)
10. Honeycomb (2.42)
Overall I dont have any gripes, I would say it was fairly representatives of peoples tastes, although I personally was dissapointed to see Show Me Your Tears so low down.
It was interesting to see that while Teenager is almost everybodys favourite (bar one or two) with nobody placing it in their bottom 4, It was the only stand out album in this respect. All the other albums ratings were all over the place and were rated completely different people eg they were appearing at the top of some peoples lists and at the bottom of others.
With regards Honeycomb, its not one of my personal favourites, but I think in time people will grow to love it more, and with retrospect it will become more and more respected, as albums often do.
A pig or a goat well, they wouldn’t let you be mistreated
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Suicide_Samurai
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
431 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2006 : 17:10:16
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| Predictably unsurprising. Unsurprisingly predictable. Well done TOTY. |
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wolfcat
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Posted - 06/13/2006 : 18:13:46
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1. Dog in the Sand
2. Frank Black
3. Teenager of the Year
4. Honeycomb
5. Frank Black & The Catholics
6. Show Me Your Tears
7. Devil's Workshop
8. Black Letter Days
9.Pistolero
10. Cult of Ray
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edbanky
= Cult of Ray =
Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
388 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2006 : 08:38:39
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The last few don't really belong in the company of these "Top 9":
01. DitS (God listened to this one while resting on day 7)
02. BLD
03. Pistolero
04. TotY
05. FB&tCs
06. tCoR
07. DW
08. SSMVGD
09. FB (eponymous)
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15. SMYT
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86. Honeycomb
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216. FMRM
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junkmale
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 06/14/2006 : 08:42:43
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1. Black Letter Days
2. Dog in the Sand
3. Show Me Your Tears
4. Teenager of the Year
5. Honeycomb
6. Devil's Workshop
7. Pistolero
8. Frank Black
9. Frank Black and the Catholics
10. Cult of Ray |
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edbanky
= Cult of Ray =
Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
388 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2006 : 08:46:15
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Originally posted by mostasteless
There is something about his debut that is very offputting to me. Its like all of the songs are good in their own right, but as an album they just dont do anything at all. Though I might listen to the odd track here and there, I almost never listen through the CD.
It's a small club, but I am a member too.
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"Clinton is a shithead." Ray Bradbury |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2006 : 09:04:42
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quote:
Originally posted by a guy in a rover
BADABADABADAAA!!!!!!
So here are the results, an average of everyones submissions/point awarding. I fiddled around a little bit due to the reluctance of some users to place Franks albums in any kind of hierachy and also the inclusion of b-sides/rarities threw a couple of spanners in the works but overall I would say it was a fair measure. Obviously it isnt some sort of scientific measure of how good the albums are, but it was a fun idea nevertheless. The averages came out as follows:
1. Teenager of the Year (8.02 points)
2. Dog in the Sand (6.94)
3. Frank Black (5.54)
4. Black Letter Days (5.05)
5. Pistolero (4.68)
6. Frank Black and the Catholics (4.65)
7. Show Me Your Tears (4.60)
8. Devils Workshop (3.57)
9. Cult of Ray (3.54)
10. Honeycomb (2.42)
Very close to my own ordering:
1. Teenager of the Year
2. Frank Black
3. Dog in the Sand
4. Black Letter Days
5. Show Me Your Tears
6. Devils Workshop
7. Pistolero
8. Cult of Ray
9. Frank Black and the Catholics
10. Honeycomb
 "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." |
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bonedry
- FB Fan -
141 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2006 : 14:34:22
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bonedry
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141 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2006 : 14:35:37
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also, anyone got sales figures?
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
777 Posts |
Posted - 06/18/2006 : 13:54:52
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quote:
Originally posted by bonedry
what the ef? how come cult of ray doesn't get more love?
I think "I don't want to hurt you" did his part for that. |
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
5305 Posts |
Posted - 06/18/2006 : 16:11:51
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thanks guy in a rover. cool idea.
here are my picks...(so hard to choose. feels like your choosing among your own friends or something.)
1. Pistolero
2. Black Letter Days
3. Dog in The Sand
4. Honeycomb
5. Teenager
6. Yellow/Orange
7. FB & The C’s
8. Cult of Ray
9. Devil’s Workshop
10. Show Me Your Tears
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2564 Posts |
Posted - 06/19/2006 : 09:13:22
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Originally posted by Grotesque
quote:
Originally posted by bonedry
what the ef? how come cult of ray doesn't get more love?
I think "I don't want to hurt you" did his part for that.
One of the best songs on the album IMO.
"The arc of triumph" |
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
5305 Posts |
Posted - 06/19/2006 : 16:54:52
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| I felt really guilty today for ranking those albums 7-10. I know some of them have to be 7-10, but it just don't seem right. |
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Jefrey
= Cult of Ray =
USA
918 Posts |
Posted - 06/21/2006 : 02:31:39
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1) Pistolero
2) TOTY
3) FB& The C's
4) Frank Black
5) DITS
6) The Man Who Was Too Drunk - B-Sides/Oddballs (especially the stuff with Teenage Fanclub)
7) SSMVGD
8) Honeycomb
9) Cult Of Ray
10) Black Letter Days
11) SMYT
12) Devil's Workshop (I just can't get into it for some reason)
FMRM...??? I like it - It might sneak into the top 5
One More Road / Snake Oil - Haven't had a chance to really listen to these.
Honerable mention: You Aint Me - A Frank Black Tribute - "1826" by Parchment Farm. I love the original version to death, but I have the Parchment Farm version on a bunch of playlists. Vive la FrankBlack.net tribute albums!
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Atertus Coveni
- FB Fan -
France
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Posted - 06/21/2006 : 06:13:51
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1. Teenager of the Year
2. Dog in the Sand
3. Black Letter Days
4. Show me your Tears
5. Fastman Raiderman
6. Yellow
7. Cult of Ray / Pistolero
9. Devil's Workshop / FB and the Catholics
11. Honeycomb |
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